My budget will only allow me to afford 2 bottles of Indigo-3G or Anaconda/MAG-10. I am 6’ 2’’ 185 with 15-18 % bf (see picture). I want to lose body fat, but also need to put on some muscle/gain some strength.
Would it be better for me to go with the Indigo-3G (i wont be able to afford the recommended peri-workout supps) or go the Anaconda/MAG-10 pulse route?
[quote]unc505 wrote:
My budget will only allow me to afford 2 bottles of indigo or Anaconda/MAG-10. I am 6’ 2’’ 185 with 15-18 % bf (see picture). I want to lose body fat, but also need to put on some muscle/gain some strength.
Would it be better for me to go with the Indigo (i wont be able to afford the recommended peri-workout supps) or go the Anaconda/MAG-10 pulse route?
thanks for the help[/quote]
To give Indigo a good run you will need to at least be on full dosage for 6-12 weeks, on the higher end of that if you feel your fat cells are really screwed up. So having said that, i don’t think its something you should quite dive into just yet. Taking Anaconda per label recommendations at training time and pulsing 1-3x a day with MAG-10 are an extremely great start.
Keep in mind that you will still need to clean up your diet in other areas and bust ass in the gym or else all the supplements in the world will do you no good. But, taking care of peri-workout nutrition is one of the best places to start, its probably the single most important part and Anaconda will have you covered. This is assuming you are dead set on the choices of the mentioned products.
Ok so if I was going to go the Anaconda/ MAG-10 route, what could i eat in place of FINiBARs(since i cant afford them or Surge)? Also if taking the MAG-10 post workout, would i still need to take a MD shake after that or would just a solid meal be fine?
You need to put on muscle if that picture is recent. Fat isn’t your problem. I’d get your training and peri-workout nutrition in order first before purchasing Indigo.
[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
You need to put on muscle if that picture is recent. Fat isn’t your problem. I’d get your training and peri-workout nutrition in order first before purchasing Indigo.[/quote]
Yep. Op, you look like you need a good 6-8 months of solid training and eating before you need to worry about supplementing with anything other than the basics.
[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
You need to put on muscle if that picture is recent. Fat isn’t your problem. I’d get your training and peri-workout nutrition in order first before purchasing Indigo.[/quote]
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I’m not saying you couldn’t benefit from Indigo-3G, but you need to make sure you are training hard a serious first before thinking about spending your money on supplements if you are strapped for cash (even Biotest HQ would refuse to sell Indigo-3G to call in customers when they could tell the buyer was not as serious as they should be with their training and nutrition).
thanks for your responses.
I am lifting seriously 4 times a week and doing interval training 3-4 times a week. I am coming off a rehab during which i couldnt lift for several months and am just starting to be able to do the things I need to do to put on muscle. I asked about supplementation because I am excited to make gains and want to make sure that im getting the absolute most out of my lifts than I can. And my diet is clean.
[quote]unc505 wrote:
thanks for your responses.
I am lifting seriously 4 times a week and doing interval training 3-4 times a week. I am coming off a rehab during which i couldnt lift for several months and am just starting to be able to do the things I need to do to put on muscle. I asked about supplementation because I am excited to make gains and want to make sure that im getting the absolute most out of my lifts than I can. And my diet is clean.[/quote]
Has to be asked, what did you eat yesterday?
And as long as you understand that no matter how many supplements you take, they will do nothing if your diet sucks (as in too little calories, too much of the bad stuff, etc)
Meal 3
2 lean turkey burgers, 2 pieces low fat cheese, usually have with lettuce, tomato , and some low carb balsamic, 2 eggs
Snack- rice cake, celery, almond butter
Lift
Post workout shake (lifting days only) - 2 scoops Metabolic Drive Low Carb, 1 tablespoon PB
Meal 4
12 oz grilled chicken, 2 servings broccoli[/quote]
The only carbs you eat all day is a single rice cake. Why? If you’re trying to gain muscle I’d recommend eating more carbs before/during/after your workout to start with. How many calories does this come to?
[quote]Cr Powerlinate wrote:
You need to put on muscle if that picture is recent. Fat isn’t your problem. I’d get your training and peri-workout nutrition in order first before purchasing Indigo.[/quote]
Yep. Op, you look like you need a good 6-8 months of solid training and eating before you need to worry about supplementing with anything other than the basics.
Whey
ZMA
Fish oil
maybe some creatine [/quote]
This. This is a good place to start for you OP. If anything right now start with getting in Peri-workout nutrition supplements (like Anaconda) and get training hard. Get a good training foundation and when you’re ready, start Indigo in a few months.
[quote]unc505 wrote:
It comes out to just over 1900 calories[/quote]
I out-eat you by about 600 calories on lifting days. 1900 calories for a 6’2" male is a starvation diet. You weigh 185 pounds, why on earth do you think you have weight to lose? If you think you’re fat then you have body dysmorphia. I can only echo the obvious - you need to eat more. A lot more.
I asked what you ate, not what you can copy and paste from god knows where.
It’s been said, you are starving yourself and your intensity in the gym is lacklustre. That very diet, no supplements and a good program, followed for at least a year, would have given you at least some abs.
Eat to grow, get on a proven program and stop thinking about magic pills.
[quote]unc505 wrote:
ok. outside of supplements, what would be some good carbs to add to my diet?[/quote]
Rice and potatoes.
Try to eat this every meal 4 times a day:
-A large portion of meat/eggs
-A large potion of vegetables
-A large potion of carbs in the two meals either side of training at least. All 4 meals if you’re struggling to put on weight
During training have some form of fast absorbing carb + protein.
Meal 3
2 lean turkey burgers, 2 pieces low fat cheese, usually have with lettuce, tomato , and some low carb balsamic, 2 eggs
Snack- rice cake, celery, almond butter
Lift
Post workout shake (lifting days only) - 2 scoops Metabolic Drive Low Carb, 1 tablespoon PB
Meal 4
12 oz grilled chicken, 2 servings broccoli[/quote]
I would focus on the addition of more carbohydrates in the post workout window. Many people here tend to focus on the 4 hours immediately after a lifting session.
Given how lean you are and your desire to gain weight, any reason you’re cutting out the egg yolks in the morning? Looking at your build, you probably could get away with some more calories easily, especially if you’re working out as intensely as you say you are. Your diet seems to be focused on cutting weight rather than adding mass.
What are you overall goals?? If your looking for 18" + arms you definitely need to be eating a lot more. If you wanna pack pounds on ya need calories and fat. Yes I said fat. Can’t produce healthy testosterone without it bub. Spend the money on whole foods. Unless you just want to be shredded.