final update: i had the 8 inch incline for awhile, and then it went back down to 4 inches. it works much better. probably not going back to 8 inches.
I am at 6 inches, I like it. I don’t snore anymore, my wife has told me that.
Also a friend of mine has a younger brother who suffered a severe spinal injury during a motocross event. You can google Jesse Cilbrith if you don’t believe me. Anyways, I told him about it and he said he would check it out. A couple days later I asked im if they are going to try it and he said they are, he also said his brother told him that he heard they do this at Mt Sinai Hospital, which is a leading hospital for spinal injuries worldwide. For whatever that is worth, at least he has heard of it from another source and is going to be giving it a shot.
V
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V
What an interesting idea, not sure what to make of it just yet though.
Reminds me of standing on buckets to take a dump, instead of sitting on the toilet seat.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V [/quote]
I, on the other hand, have the opposite response. I bought a queen size tempurapedic mattress (i got it for $300). I used to just have a hard, crappy futon mattress. I am constantly having back pain. No matter how I slept, I dont remember ever having this issue on the futon.
I have been experimenting with my sleeping positions lately. I think the problem stems from the fact I like to sleep on my stomach (bad, I know), but it is the easiest way for me to fall asleep. With a hard matress my spine would stay neutral, whereas, I would imagine, on the tempurapedic, I think I hyperextend.
Like I said, I am trying to focus on sleeping on my back and sides. But I dont like making that transition!
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V [/quote]
I, on the other hand, have the opposite response. I bought a queen size tempurapedic mattress (i got it for $300). I used to just have a hard, crappy futon mattress. I am constantly having back pain. No matter how I slept, I dont remember ever having this issue on the futon.
I have been experimenting with my sleeping positions lately. I think the problem stems from the fact I like to sleep on my stomach (bad, I know), but it is the easiest way for me to fall asleep. With a hard matress my spine would stay neutral, whereas, I would imagine, on the tempurapedic, I think I hyperextend.
Like I said, I am trying to focus on sleeping on my back and sides. But I dont like making that transition![/quote]
If you bought a tempurpedic bed for $300 the foam isn’t dense enough to support your weight properly. Do me a favor, go to a furniture store and lay down on the firmest Tempurpedic or foam mattress they have and see if there is a big difference. I also was going to get a cheap one from like Overstock I think, they guy who sold me the mattress is a personal friend of the family and he told me the cheaper one was most likley made from a less dense foam that would not last as long and not provide a good amount of support.
Also yea, sleeping on your stomach is bad. I have good luck on my back, but if I am having trouble with that, I lay on my side in a half fetal position with an extra pillow between my knees. This helps alot and eventually I roll to my back. Hope you find something that works.
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V [/quote]
I, on the other hand, have the opposite response. I bought a queen size tempurapedic mattress (i got it for $300). I used to just have a hard, crappy futon mattress. I am constantly having back pain. No matter how I slept, I dont remember ever having this issue on the futon.
I have been experimenting with my sleeping positions lately. I think the problem stems from the fact I like to sleep on my stomach (bad, I know), but it is the easiest way for me to fall asleep. With a hard matress my spine would stay neutral, whereas, I would imagine, on the tempurapedic, I think I hyperextend.
Like I said, I am trying to focus on sleeping on my back and sides. But I dont like making that transition![/quote]
If you bought a tempurpedic bed for $300 the foam isn’t dense enough to support your weight properly. Do me a favor, go to a furniture store and lay down on the firmest Tempurpedic or foam mattress they have and see if there is a big difference. I also was going to get a cheap one from like Overstock I think, they guy who sold me the mattress is a personal friend of the family and he told me the cheaper one was most likley made from a less dense foam that would not last as long and not provide a good amount of support.
Also yea, sleeping on your stomach is bad. I have good luck on my back, but if I am having trouble with that, I lay on my side in a half fetal position with an extra pillow between my knees. This helps alot and eventually I roll to my back. Hope you find something that works.
V[/quote]
Well the tempurapedic wasnt exactly sold from the retailer, if you understand me…
But I was unaware there were different firmness levels. I probably got the one for the 110lb female w/o knowing. Like I said, I will goof around with my sleeping position, otherwise I might be selling it and getting a hard bed again. I heard hard beds work better for larger people (im 260ish), anyone validate this?
Oh yea, back to the point, I might actually try out this incline thing. I will have to ghetto rig something…
[quote]goochadamg wrote:
Wait, are you guys actually taking that site seriously? :-/[/quote]
IMO, the site seems a bit over-the-top with the claims, thus I am not a big fan of that site. The method seems like a harmless way to experiment with something new.
Trying this out tonight, will respond with my results. I’m actually interested in the dreaming aspect, as some have been having more frequent dreams, and I’m wondering whether this could be a sign of enhanced brain activity during deep wave sleep.
Plus I like dreaming, and god I hope I don’t ever wake up if I can manage a lucid dream 
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V [/quote]
I, on the other hand, have the opposite response. I bought a queen size tempurapedic mattress (i got it for $300). I used to just have a hard, crappy futon mattress. I am constantly having back pain. No matter how I slept, I dont remember ever having this issue on the futon.
I have been experimenting with my sleeping positions lately. I think the problem stems from the fact I like to sleep on my stomach (bad, I know), but it is the easiest way for me to fall asleep. With a hard matress my spine would stay neutral, whereas, I would imagine, on the tempurapedic, I think I hyperextend.
Like I said, I am trying to focus on sleeping on my back and sides. But I dont like making that transition![/quote]
put a pillow under your stomach, that should get rid of your back pain.
i got my bed at bedinabox.com
it is really nice. no complaints with that. and yes it does come to your house in a box.
so I have a bed frame, then box spring then mattress. Where are you guys putting the supports? Should I just put a 4x4 block under the 2 or 3 supports on the head end of the bed or are you guys putting these supports between the box spring and mattress?
Thanks,
J
[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V [/quote]
I, on the other hand, have the opposite response. I bought a queen size tempurapedic mattress (i got it for $300). I used to just have a hard, crappy futon mattress. I am constantly having back pain. No matter how I slept, I dont remember ever having this issue on the futon.
I have been experimenting with my sleeping positions lately. I think the problem stems from the fact I like to sleep on my stomach (bad, I know), but it is the easiest way for me to fall asleep. With a hard matress my spine would stay neutral, whereas, I would imagine, on the tempurapedic, I think I hyperextend.
Like I said, I am trying to focus on sleeping on my back and sides. But I dont like making that transition![/quote]
put a pillow under your stomach, that should get rid of your back pain.[/quote]
that makes sense…
I might try this for myself, however, I will decline to use this with my children as I am not inclined to raise them like this.
DB
[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
I might try this for myself, however, I will decline to use this with my children as I am not inclined to raise them like this.
DB[/quote]
LOL, clever!
[quote]jjchambers wrote:
so I have a bed frame, then box spring then mattress. Where are you guys putting the supports? Should I just put a 4x4 block under the 2 or 3 supports on the head end of the bed or are you guys putting these supports between the box spring and mattress?
Thanks,
J[/quote]
because i have a memory foam bed, i don’t have a box spring, so i put it under the wood supports that the mattress goes on. I would imagine if you just put it under the mattress you would get some serious sag.
[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
[quote]jjchambers wrote:
so I have a bed frame, then box spring then mattress. Where are you guys putting the supports? Should I just put a 4x4 block under the 2 or 3 supports on the head end of the bed or are you guys putting these supports between the box spring and mattress?
Thanks,
J[/quote]
because i have a memory foam bed, i don’t have a box spring, so i put it under the wood supports that the mattress goes on. I would imagine if you just put it under the mattress you would get some serious sag. [/quote]
No dude, you also need a box spring. I have a memory foam and I have a box spring. You put the supports (lifters) between the box spring and the bedframe.
Kthxbye
V
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]honest_lifter wrote:
[quote]jjchambers wrote:
so I have a bed frame, then box spring then mattress. Where are you guys putting the supports? Should I just put a 4x4 block under the 2 or 3 supports on the head end of the bed or are you guys putting these supports between the box spring and mattress?
Thanks,
J[/quote]
because i have a memory foam bed, i don’t have a box spring, so i put it under the wood supports that the mattress goes on. I would imagine if you just put it under the mattress you would get some serious sag. [/quote]
No dude, you also need a box spring. I have a memory foam and I have a box spring. You put the supports (lifters) between the box spring and the bedframe.
Kthxbye
V[/quote]
That makes sense and may be easier to implement. Thanks!
J
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]MidDistanceMac wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
Also FWIW my wife and I find it comfortable, and I know for a fact that it will help with my heartburn. Also no more snoring has been pleasant for the wife, so just those reasons alone are more than enough for us to keep it inclined. If any of the other things that guy claims are true, even if they are grossly overstated, well then good for us.
V[/quote]
Hey Vegita,
You mentioned sleeping on a memory foam mattress (as did others), would you recommend it?
I just recently (2 years ago) bought a new mattress and got a pillow top on it. Its starting to sag and all of my back problems have been within the 2 years of having this mattress. Beforehand I had a firm and my back was fine. I’m thinking about going back to a firm or getting a tempurpedic type of bed. I did a search on T-Nation and couldn’t find anything related to the reviews of these types of mattresses.
Any advice or opinion would be appreciated (from anyone)
[/quote]
YES! 100% YES!
I too bought an expensive pillow top mattress about 8 years ago, within 2 years it had a noticable sag, but because I paid so much money for it. (about $900) I was not about to go get a new mattress after only 2 years. So I waited, and then about a year or two later, started having random low back issues. I noticed them mostly when I was golfing, there is a lot of low spine torsion in a golf swing, especially mine, so i attributed it to that. But then one winter I noticed my back started hurting just doing regular things, and by this time, my bed had quite a big sag in it.
In any event, we got the memory foam mattress at a retail store and it was the firmest one that was there. It’s not “tmperpedic” or whatever that sweedish name brand company is, but it’s sealy, so I’m thinking that sealy has good enough people to make a pretty solid copy. It was on sale for a king size for $1250. I wanted the firm one anyways, and it was the right price. I have slept wonderfully on it since we got it and with a little stretching and hip mobility drills I have eliminated all of my low back problems.
Also I think I should point out that I also have a desk job and am sitting 7 hours a day for work. So, my back problems are most likley a combination of several things. But I’m not sure for you if changing your mattress alone will solve your problems, It will certainly help, but look into proper stretching and mobility drills as well.
V [/quote]
Thanks Vegita,
I’m not taking this as a bona-fied orthopedic opinion. I’m just wondering what your experience was. I’ve done a bunch of mobility (MM) and single leg work and I’ve gotten great gains. More recently (with the sagging) my back has been spazzy AND i wake up with sore abs and lower back. I’m not necessarily sold on memory foam, I am thinking of going back to a firm though.
I’m in the same boat (900) for a queen (Fuck Simmons BeautyRest DO NOT BUY). Bought it two years ago and now its sagging and the retailer nor manufacturer will do anything about it… any advice? I feel like burning this mattress and going to find a firm I’m just not sure if i’ll like a firm again or not.