Topic pretty much covers it so i was thinking 5x5s
My over all goal is weight loss so i wont be eating to bulk and ill do cardio every other day.
Back/biceps
Dead lifts
pull ups
Seated Row
Dumbbell Bent-over Row
Shrugs
Barbell curls
incline dumbbells curls
Chest triceps
Flat db bench
incline db bench
cable cross overs
close grip bench press
dips
Legs/ shoulder
Back squat
Calf Raise (machine)
Leg curls
lying leg curls
Seated shoulder press
Lateral Dumbbell Raises
upright row
Pick one from each list and it looks like a workout. Why do you need 19 exercises? There are only so many movements.
You do NOT want that many exercises for one session…trust me. Just pick out about 4 to 6 exercises and you are good.
Up top is basicly a three day split 
[quote]zarrs wrote:
Up top is basicly a three day split :D[/quote]
If you are doing a three day split… you are better much off doing full body. If you don’t want to full body you are better servered also moving up to 4 days a week.
[quote]anoddparadigm wrote:
zarrs wrote:
Up top is basicly a three day split
If you are doing a three day split… you are better much off doing full body. If you don’t want to full body you are better servered also moving up to 4 days a week. [/quote]
what he said
I agree. However, I prefer to give legs/lower their own day in order to maintain proper intensity. YMMV, but for myself, something would get neglected if I combined the two. That is the reason I switched over to a split routine in the first place.
congrats on seeing the light
Ya your probably better off with full body workouts.
move to a 4-day split by giving shoulders/traps their own day and legs their own day. you will lose weight based on your diet. fullbody is good if your goal is performance or strength, imo, but for bodybuilding a split is essential.
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but do what you like (although i don’t think 3 days in a row is best when doing a 4-day split).
do 9-12 sets for big bodyparts and 5-8 sets for smaller ones.
as stated, congrats on seeing the light.
Ever consider an upper/lower split?
[quote]Pemdas wrote:
Ever consider an upper/lower split? [/quote]
I’ll second this.
thanks heaps for the advice, ive changed it to a 4 day split.
I have done weight training in the past but ive never done a upper/lower split are they any examples on this site of one?
yes just search for them.
If your goal is to be a bodybuilder, then train like one.
I’m no advocate for the site in general, but go to www.bodybuilders.com and look at the index of featured amateur bbers. I read through a shit ton of them and noticed that they all do 3-6 day splits (most 4-5 days). I noticed 1 guy who does upper/lower and 1 guy (real lightweight) that does total body. They train each BP once every 5-7 days and use the parameters described in CT’s program design article. Some of those guys go beyond the volume CT would recommend, but remember they are advanced guys who likely devote a more significant percentage of their time to their sport so recovery is probably more doable.
Articles, studies and bullshit aside, if you want to add mass and be a “bodybuilder” just train (and eat) like one- screw all this other shit.