[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Gregon, absolute homo, you blew up. No homo? That’s what she said.[/quote]
hahaha I fully attribute it to my 2k ERG warm ups :)[/quote]
Damn you got homo-quote in before I edited and attributed to my coaching haha. Either way definitely lookin good and some huge progress. Keep it up bud.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Gregon, absolute homo, you blew up. No homo? That’s what she said.[/quote]
hahaha I fully attribute it to my 2k ERG warm ups :)[/quote]
Damn you got homo-quote in before I edited and attributed to my coaching haha. Either way definitely lookin good and some huge progress. Keep it up bud.[/quote]
Yeah if you cant tell, I am bored as shit right now lol… stalking the T-Nation boards like a ferocious jungle cat.
Just stopping by to cosign the homoerotic comments about gregron. Good work man!
Different people can tolerate differing levels of “junk” in their diets. And by junk I mean something not so clean but high in protien. I think most people can handle consuming high protien fast food when bulking. That means if I go to McDonald’s, I eat the Double Cheeseburgers, not a meal that has fries and pop, and not even the other burgers that don’t offer as much meat for their calories. I’m not a big fan of pizza but if it’s one with chicken, ground beef and some other meat topping I’m all for it, too.
No one gets fat overnight no matter how bad their food intake is. You should be able to notice if your diet is too ‘dirty’ just by paying attention to your progress in scale weight, numbers in the gym, and with a mirror week to week. If you notice you’re putting on too much fat compared to muscle and strength gains clean up your diet a bit [maybe even do a ‘recomp’?]. Never mind concrete rules about how clean your bulk has to be.
Just my opinion.
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
Thread is useless without pics.[/quote]
you look like you lift weights. You and Teledin should feel free to post more.
Good work man.[/quote]
Thanks. I don’t post much because people are always bickering. [/quote]
x2. I could tolerate it if one camp actually made some sense. Seem to be face-palming more than actually reading along and gaining some useful shit out of a discussion. So I tend to just come here, read the articles and sometimes suss out what’s going down on the forum.
[quote]Teledin wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
Thread is useless without pics.[/quote]
you look like you lift weights. You and Teledin should feel free to post more.
Good work man.[/quote]
Thanks. I don’t post much because people are always bickering. [/quote]
x2. I could tolerate it if one camp actually made some sense. Seem to be face-palming more than actually reading along and gaining some useful shit out of a discussion. So I tend to just come here, read the articles and sometimes suss out what’s going down on the forum.[/quote]
Guys, what I’m trying to get at is if you and more people like you posted more, it would help stomp out the dumb shit.
I’m not saying argue, just speak around the shit you don’t want to get involved in.
Those that are worth it to take the time to convey the message to will receive it.
BUT… Carry on, I understand your position completely.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Chi-Towns-Finest wrote:
Nice stats boss, when I saw the word dirty next to bulk I assumed that meant you were over 15 percent. .[/quote]
Wait, why would ANYONE assume that and further, what the fuck is wrong all of a sudden with being 15% body fat?
Further, why would THAT be the primary concern over whether what you are doing is leading to the most muscle growth?
Who the fuck cares if you hit over 15% body fat if you grew more muscle than everyone else?[/quote]
Don’t get me wrong PX, there isn’t anything wrong being over 15%. The phrase ‘dirty bulk’ has a connotation of being a fat fuck, otherwise it would just be bulking – in my opinion at least.
I have ‘dirty’ bulked in the past myself, it isn’t a particularly great look for me. Most likely because I approached it from an angle that was far from optimal, sub-par if you will. I’m certainly not trying to knock it for those of you that are following the path of strength. I’m a bodybuilding and fitness enthusiast and value symmetry in addition to strength.
If this thread is about gay sex with gregron, then I’ll go third.
[quote]Teledin wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
Thread is useless without pics.[/quote]
you look like you lift weights. You and Teledin should feel free to post more.
Good work man.[/quote]
Thanks. I don’t post much because people are always bickering. [/quote]
x2. I could tolerate it if one camp actually made some sense. Seem to be face-palming more than actually reading along and gaining some useful shit out of a discussion. So I tend to just come here, read the articles and sometimes suss out what’s going down on the forum.[/quote]
agreed. However, the guys that seem to give the best advice and seem to actually know their shit also tend to stay out of these arguements. If the guys who like to bicker/argue put as much effort into helping other people out, this place would be solid.
The T-Nation forums have such potential. A community is about support/growing/learning…not shooting people down every chance you get.
Prof X told me to eat cake and ice cream and then i got fat and sad
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
Prof X told me to eat cake and ice cream and then i got fat and sad[/quote]
In that avi pic you look like Way’s twin brother 
What’ve you been up to, anyway?
Prof X told me to grind babies into hamburgers and that was the only way I’d get to 300 lbs at 4% bodyfat and be more swole than him.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
Prof X told me to eat cake and ice cream and then i got fat and sad[/quote]
In that avi pic you look like Way’s twin brother
What’ve you been up to, anyway?
[/quote]
I divide my time between work (started as an attorney last fall), gym, and the girlfriend. Same ol’ same ol’.
I had to diet off a lot of the fat that I gained after Prof X’s cake-n-ice cream advice so I stopped posting.
either that, or it was because the mod’s shut down the BOI on here and we moved it elsewhere.
How you been?
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
Heres me now at 235, 11-12% bodyfat. I was 196 and ~8% at my lowest about 3 or 4 months ago… [/quote]
Your arms and shoulders definitely look a lot bigger/better. You’re obviously much leaner as well. A little difficult to compare the two pictures since they are not the same pose but you definitely look much better now. Good work[/quote]
Thanks man, getting most of my calories around my workout time helped me gain better lean mass IMHO.
My point was, I know everyone’s different and whatnot, but we’d def. have less people complaining about getting fat if they at least TIMED their dirty calories more toward their workouts(immediately before/during/immediately after).
I started reading T-Nation around 4 years ago, and since then, it’s been priceless. I carb-cycle year round while gaining or cutting for a show,(thanks to Thib’s and Stu’s recommendations) and being big and strong can be totally possible while still eating “Bad” food, if you even want to call it that.
[quote]Beast Status wrote:
[quote]Teledin wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
Thread is useless without pics.[/quote]
you look like you lift weights. You and Teledin should feel free to post more.
Good work man.[/quote]
Thanks. I don’t post much because people are always bickering. [/quote]
x2. I could tolerate it if one camp actually made some sense. Seem to be face-palming more than actually reading along and gaining some useful shit out of a discussion. So I tend to just come here, read the articles and sometimes suss out what’s going down on the forum.[/quote]
agreed. However, the guys that seem to give the best advice and seem to actually know their shit also tend to stay out of these arguements. If the guys who like to bicker/argue put as much effort into helping other people out, this place would be solid.
The T-Nation forums have such potential. A community is about support/growing/learning…not shooting people down every chance you get.
[/quote]
To a degree. I give advice on here sometimes that was passed to me from other successful members, and I got sick of hearing things about HAWT ABZ and you must be a fatty, pics or GTFO lol, so here ya go.
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
Prof X told me to eat cake and ice cream and then i got fat and sad[/quote]
In that avi pic you look like Way’s twin brother
What’ve you been up to, anyway?
[/quote]
I divide my time between work (started as an attorney last fall), gym, and the girlfriend. Same ol’ same ol’.
I had to diet off a lot of the fat that I gained after Prof X’s cake-n-ice cream advice so I stopped posting.
either that, or it was because the mod’s shut down the BOI on here and we moved it elsewhere.
How you been?[/quote]
I remember your old pic man and you look hell of a lot leaner. Keep it up!
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
Lol…poor Sarev0k. This guy single-handedly turned the thread into exactly what you DIDN’T want.
And if you think that anything but chicken and rice (or that small handful of acceptable foods you have listed) is “dirty” food, then you’re probably setting yourself up for a nice eating disorder, or at the very least a solid case of Orthorexia.
But whatever - good luck to you in your future bodybuilding endeavors.
[/quote]
lol I kind of expected a shitstorm, but now that i have pics up, hopefully it’ll prove to some people that dirty bulking is not so bad as long as you time it correctly.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
Thread is useless without pics.[/quote]
you look like you lift weights. You and Teledin should feel free to post more.
Good work man.[/quote]
Thanks. I don’t post much because people are always bickering. [/quote]
Bout time fucker.[/quote]
See, this is the kind of verbal abuse I’m talking about. xD How’s the actual Davinci 2.0 doing?
[/quote]
Great, I’ve got ultrasound pictures up in facebook if you want to take a look at him.[/quote]
If you’re saying what I think you’re saying, then congrats!
[/quote]
Thanks CC![/quote]
Congrats X2 BTW!
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]MeinHerzBrennt wrote:
Prof X told me to eat cake and ice cream and then i got fat and sad[/quote]
In that avi pic you look like Way’s twin brother
What’ve you been up to, anyway?
[/quote]
I divide my time between work (started as an attorney last fall), gym, and the girlfriend. Same ol’ same ol’.
I had to diet off a lot of the fat that I gained after Prof X’s cake-n-ice cream advice so I stopped posting.
either that, or it was because the mod’s shut down the BOI on here and we moved it elsewhere.
How you been?[/quote]
I remember your old pic man and you look hell of a lot leaner. Keep it up![/quote]
Thanks dude. I dropped 56lb and 9 inches off the waist.
God damn cake and ice cream diet. Just say no!
Nice progress picks you got there.
I heard that the Polish navy had submarines with screen doors.
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]Beast Status wrote:
[quote]Teledin wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]SuperSonic wrote:
Thread is useless without pics.[/quote]
you look like you lift weights. You and Teledin should feel free to post more.
Good work man.[/quote]
Thanks. I don’t post much because people are always bickering. [/quote]
x2. I could tolerate it if one camp actually made some sense. Seem to be face-palming more than actually reading along and gaining some useful shit out of a discussion. So I tend to just come here, read the articles and sometimes suss out what’s going down on the forum.[/quote]
agreed. However, the guys that seem to give the best advice and seem to actually know their shit also tend to stay out of these arguements. If the guys who like to bicker/argue put as much effort into helping other people out, this place would be solid.
The T-Nation forums have such potential. A community is about support/growing/learning…not shooting people down every chance you get.
[/quote]
To a degree. I give advice on here sometimes that was passed to me from other successful members, and I got sick of hearing things about HAWT ABZ and you must be a fatty, pics or GTFO lol, so here ya go. [/quote]
i dont have hawt abz or asked u for pics…
Im all for defending yourself man. Dont get me wrong.