If You Had to Drink...

Nutrition
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What’s amazing to me, is that other people generally have a very difficult time grasping the concept you speak of WestCoast (carving your own path, living for you).

I go out. I decide not to drink.
Of course inquiring minds need to figure out why someone would do such a thing.
I tell people, “I am not drinking because I do not want to drink” they always have to ask why.
I simply say “I don’t want to do it, so I’m not.”
If I’m feeling friendly and not annoyed (you know, for the first 5 people that harass me about it) I’ll maybe go into detail about how I don’t really enjoy alcohol that much, or how I try to live a healthy lifestyle, or that I dont see the point in drinking because it doesnt really serve ME any purpose or advantage. I also make sure to note that I dont judge or condemn the use of it by others. I let people do what they want. To each their own…
However regardless of the description,
They ask why again.
I say “because I do, in life, what I want to do. I live for myself”
They stare at me like I’m an alien…

Anybody have a surefire way to get this point across more simply and easily? It’d be nice not to be annoyed by the multi-person interrogation every night. It doesnt stop me from going out or staying sober however!

I have considered just telling people I’m a recovering alcoholic lol
It still fits my worldview because I love messing with people haha

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[quote]Titch wrote:
Just go out and have fun, I drink 2-3 times a week just work that extra bit harder in the gym. Life’s too short to constantly worry about being lean. Once a week should be fine. When it starts hitting beach season cut down the drink.[/quote]

You are wrong…

you gotta step up the drinking and the cardio to make the fat stay away !

this gives you 2 benefits !

  1. you get to have a really good alcohol endurance so you can drink girls really dumb and easy !

  2. when you get tehm home the cardio will make sure you can perform ALL NIGHT !

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I think you will find after a certain milestone in your lifting career that the huge meals and the ridiculous body mass makes getting drunk extremely difficult, irritating, and expensive.

On New Years I binged and ended up taking in more than a fifth of 101 proof Bourbon.
The rough equivalent of about 30 shots worth of mixed drinks, as I was drinking quadruples (didnt know they made those, but they do, the waitress suggested it after I was killing the double shorts).
And closer to the end of the night shots of 151 and Jager, at least 4-5.

Horrible night, not much of a hang over, but no energy the next day, or appetite, just sat around. Ive had more in the past, but this is the most in recent memory.

I wasn’t fun, I was wasted, I didn’t black out but I didn’t really have much control over what I was doing, apparently I made out with atleast 4 girls, 2 of which were my friends.

I cant imagine how people do that every weekend, getting hammer drunk that is, the girls were just fine.

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Personally I dont mind the taste of two diet drinks: Diet Dew and Diet DP, and I use those to cut the calories on mixed drinks a little (Diet Dew with Vodka, and Diet DP with whiskey). Drinking isnt ideal period, but it sure is fun, and takes the edge off a hard week of training and dieting. I usually do it 3-4 times a month (some months more than others though). You can definitely stay lean and drink (within reason), but the rest of your diet needs to be pretty spotless, and you need to be religious with your workouts. Does drinking make staying lean a little harder? Yes. Does it make it impossible? Not at all.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

[quote]bmbweber wrote:

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
dont go out.[/quote]

GREAT idea… Just stay in every Friday & Saturday night and post on TN???

I hope this is sarcastic; Otherwise, some of you are truley missing out on life.

Fuck it, Just as Westlock said: Go ahead, have a few… Its not going to kill you or your physique.[/quote]

missing out life? lol

If your idea of a good time is going to some guido club with people that most of the time are not really your friends, dance to music that makes me feel like dying of inanition, drink alcohol (which tastes bad), try to act like you are the man, then go eat at the fast food after, that’s great, but it’s not mine

Oh well, you travel to bars
You also go to winchell’s doughnuts
And hang out with the highway patrol
Sometimes you’ll go to a pizza place
You go to shakey’s to get that
American kind of pizza
That has the ugly, waxey, fake yellow
Kind of cheese on the top…
Maybe you’ll go to straw hat pizza,
To get all those artificial ingredients
That never belonged on a pizza in the first place
(but the white people really like it…)
Oh well, you’ll go anyplace, you’ll do anything

You go to santa monica boulevard,
You go to the blue parrot
No problem, you’ll go anyplace
You’ll do anything
Just so you can hang out with the others
The others…JUST LIKE YOU[/quote]

Who said anything about going out to “guido bars”? You simply said “don’t go out”.

If you never go out anywhere or do anything, you are missing out on life and if the only thing you could possibly think of doing is hanging out with guidos, I feel sorry for you.

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Whenever people ask why I don’t drink I usually look at them and say, “Do you really want to know?” And when they say “Yes,” I reply, “I don’t like the taste, I don’t like the way it makes me feel, it’s expensive, I don’t want to waste the calories, I don’t need it to have fun, I like to be in control of my actions, I like to be able to drive myself home at night, and plus… I don’t want to look like that!” (and point to some random chick making a fool of herself…)

That usually shuts them up pretty quickly =D

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[quote]bmbweber wrote:

I put inaniation in quotes because the context you use it in, doesnt make sense. Maybe you need to stick with ur first language smartass.

You are correct. Your taste in music is only for the highly educated 18yr old highschool student like yourself. Pizza, doughnuts, and Santa Monica Blvd. is way over my head.[/quote]

you totally miss it.

by the way it’s inNANItion not inaNAItion

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[quote]MarvelGirl wrote:

Who said anything about going out to “guido bars”? You simply said “don’t go out”.

If you never go out anywhere or do anything, you are missing out on life and if the only thing you could possibly think of doing is hanging out with guidos, I feel sorry for you.[/quote]

I am not in the constant search for fun. If it happens, it happens. I don’t care about what I am supposely ‘‘missing’’. no needs to feel sorry

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[quote]bmbweber wrote:

I put inaniation in quotes because the context you use it in, doesnt make sense. Maybe you need to stick with ur first language smartass.

You are correct. Your taste in music is only for the highly educated 18yr old highschool student like yourself. Pizza, doughnuts, and Santa Monica Blvd. is way over my head.[/quote]

oh and I’ll give it a shot

Inanition means an exhausted, weak, empty condition from a lack of something. I said that the music maked me feel like dying of innanition means that what they play in public place is so empty and simple, crappy, with no artitic value, with nothing happenning at all that it makes me feel like that. Think mainstream music. But hey if you like it who cares?

Lyrics is not music. Education has nothing to do with the fact that I like more uplifting material. Education doesnt mean anything.

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I do care about diet and nutrition but, I’m in college and I enjoy going out and drinking with my friends. At this point I’m not concerned about the calories too much, if I’m at a bar and get a mixed drink its usually a vodka gimlet. I’ve heard that besides the calories, alcohol has effects that completely stops muscle growth? I forget exactly what it was but, is there something else to be concerned about with drinks besides the sugar/calories?

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[quote]Zarellz wrote:
I do care about diet and nutrition but, I’m in college and I enjoy going out and drinking with my friends. At this point I’m not concerned about the calories too much, if I’m at a bar and get a mixed drink its usually a vodka gimlet. I’ve heard that besides the calories, alcohol has effects that completely stops muscle growth? I forget exactly what it was but, is there something else to be concerned about with drinks besides the sugar/calories?[/quote]

Your body treats alcohol like a poison, in that all metabolism of anything else pretty much stops because it wants to get rid of the alcohol.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Zarellz wrote:
I do care about diet and nutrition but, I’m in college and I enjoy going out and drinking with my friends. At this point I’m not concerned about the calories too much, if I’m at a bar and get a mixed drink its usually a vodka gimlet. I’ve heard that besides the calories, alcohol has effects that completely stops muscle growth? I forget exactly what it was but, is there something else to be concerned about with drinks besides the sugar/calories?[/quote]

Your body treats alcohol like a poison, in that all metabolism of anything else pretty much stops because it wants to get rid of the alcohol.[/quote]

Drops test levels as well. Not sure by how much and for how long tho.

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[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
So just order diet soda at the bar. Where’s the problem in this scenario? [/quote]

I agree.
You either do what BONEZ217 says, or have what you want while understanding that it’s not a good idea to get shit-faced no matter what your fitness goals are.
It’s the worrying that’s a waste of time.

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I think the resveratrol in red wine has some notable anti-estrogenic effects. A couple of days after drinking almost two bottles (at a pathetic weight of 190), I increased my deadlift PR by 15 pounds and have not come close to that number since.

ALL things considered, not recommended.

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[quote]PB Andy wrote:

[quote]Zarellz wrote:
I do care about diet and nutrition but, I’m in college and I enjoy going out and drinking with my friends. At this point I’m not concerned about the calories too much, if I’m at a bar and get a mixed drink its usually a vodka gimlet. I’ve heard that besides the calories, alcohol has effects that completely stops muscle growth?

I forget exactly what it was but, is there something else to be concerned about with drinks besides the sugar/calories?[/quote]

Your body treats alcohol like a poison, in that all metabolism of anything else pretty much stops because it wants to get rid of the alcohol.[/quote]

I’ve read this several times here that alcohol supposedly halts muscle anabolism, fat catabolism, etc., but does anyone have a reference for this?

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I always make sure to drive, that way you don’t overdo it. But of couse its nice to get a buzz, be more open. Here’s what I do. I’ll either drink some light beers, I prefer Coors Light, Amstel Light and in between every beer drink a glass of water. Some nights I want dark beer, so I’ll follow the same routine. Take your time, don’t drink like a fish. It’s best if your around good company, that way your chatting it up.

Some nights I’ll have maybe 2 beers & that’s it. I’ll take some Spike or those flavored coffee packets they sell at 7-11. Those amp you up a bit so your talkative & feel upbeat. There’s like 6 grams of sugar, no big deal.

Liquor: On nights I want some Greygoose I’ll have it on the rocks. 2 of these and your set all night. Same thing, drink a glass of water inbetween. Gin & diet tonic water is a good one. Stoli orange & soda with lime is good stuff.

Eat well before going out, take your fish oil, vitamins & get a nap in.
Also, the ladies like a guy that’s in control, not getting hammered & slurring his words.

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Been reading the responses. Yep, way too strict.
If we trained harder, say like Alpha, then we wouldn’t have to worry about this crap.
Unless a contest or some type of comp. was ahead.

Another good one I enjoy after I come home from drinking.
Jump rope for 10- 15 mins. Pound back some water, eat some protein, veggies.
Sleep like a baby.

I prefer sex though! :stuck_out_tongue:
Note, with sexy woman that is!

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Wait, so nobody has linked this yet?

There; Tmuscle article about alcohol and how it effects muscle building and breakdown.

Why not just have a few and then work harder in the gym? Live a little.

Note: Cysteine(100mg) + Vitamin C(300-500mg) before drinking and before each round, and you’re good to go for a morning workout to work off the chicken wings.