[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Give me 2 weeks with a suit and I can do 600+ without a walkout and I will put up money in the niagara falls Buffalo area. I weigh 165 and I am 52yrs old. Give me a meet.
BB[/quote]
you say 52. your profile says 47.
you have no pictures.
you have no videos.
Lets see some proof of, well, anything. [/quote]
hahahahahahaha
sorry Dixie, he is real.
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bein serious, then who are you (BB)?
[quote]Shedosk wrote:
Scariest walk out ever…Lee Moran’s attempt at 1000 lbs. Anybody who has seen the movie power unlimited knows what i’m talking about.[/quote]
for the record he did the weight (1003?) on the third attempt
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
The monolift was invented as a safety precaution. Try loading up 800lbs and taking a few steps backwards and out. Now try doing it in knee wraps and a suit. Fuck that, if I had access to one, I’d never use anything but a mono. You can squat however you want, but just shut the fuck up about it.[/quote]
Maybe they should start weightlifting. Have you ever seen a weightlifter struggle in a walkout?
Games people play. I don’t understand the Beef. If you and everyone you compete against is walking it out then thats your game. If everyone is in the Mono then thats your game. And if your not competing whats the issue.
Now Deadlifting in slippers should be outlawed. Just plain not fair thats a good 1/4inch of pull your giving up.
[quote]Wrah wrote:
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
The monolift was invented as a safety precaution. Try loading up 800lbs and taking a few steps backwards and out. Now try doing it in knee wraps and a suit. Fuck that, if I had access to one, I’d never use anything but a mono. You can squat however you want, but just shut the fuck up about it.[/quote]
Maybe they should start weightlifting. Have you ever seen a weightlifter struggle in a walkout?[/quote]
Have you ever seen a weightlifter squat 800lb?
[quote]al1492 wrote:
[quote]Shedosk wrote:
Scariest walk out ever…Lee Moran’s attempt at 1000 lbs. Anybody who has seen the movie power unlimited knows what i’m talking about.[/quote]
for the record he did the weight (1003?) on the third attempt[/quote]
THAT VIDEO WAS INSANE!!!
[quote]Element_26 wrote:
[quote]Wrah wrote:
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
The monolift was invented as a safety precaution. Try loading up 800lbs and taking a few steps backwards and out. Now try doing it in knee wraps and a suit. Fuck that, if I had access to one, I’d never use anything but a mono. You can squat however you want, but just shut the fuck up about it.[/quote]
Maybe they should start weightlifting. Have you ever seen a weightlifter struggle in a walkout?[/quote]
Have you ever seen a weightlifter squat 800lb?[/quote]
Mark Henry?
[quote]Wrah wrote:
[quote]Element_26 wrote:
[quote]Wrah wrote:
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
The monolift was invented as a safety precaution. Try loading up 800lbs and taking a few steps backwards and out. Now try doing it in knee wraps and a suit. Fuck that, if I had access to one, I’d never use anything but a mono. You can squat however you want, but just shut the fuck up about it.[/quote]
Maybe they should start weightlifting. Have you ever seen a weightlifter struggle in a walkout?[/quote]
Have you ever seen a weightlifter squat 800lb?[/quote]
Mark Henry?[/quote]
Yep. Fair. Fired off that quip a bit fast back there…
After reading this thread, I am never doing a powerlifting competition ever again.
[quote]Wrah wrote:
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
The monolift was invented as a safety precaution. Try loading up 800lbs and taking a few steps backwards and out. Now try doing it in knee wraps and a suit. Fuck that, if I had access to one, I’d never use anything but a mono. You can squat however you want, but just shut the fuck up about it.[/quote]
Maybe they should start weightlifting. Have you ever seen a weightlifter struggle in a walkout?[/quote]
Have you ever seen a weightlifter squat 800+? And don’t say Mark Henry unless you have a video showing him not struggling with the walkout.
Honestly, I ask, what is the point of this? Why walk it out if you don’t have to? I squat not because I’ll see one in a strongman meet, but to strengthen my hips, abs, and back. I’m not getting this effect from the walkout, I can already do yoke walks with hundreds of pounds over my back squat. I get this effect from the squat.
So why would I risk injury if I didn’t have to? Why fatigue myself before the actual lift? Why let the bar bounce out of position on my back before I try to hit the perfect groove?
[quote]threewhitelights wrote:
Honestly, I ask, what is the point of this? Why walk it out if you don’t have to? I squat not because I’ll see one in a strongman meet, but to strengthen my hips, abs, and back. I’m not getting this effect from the walkout, I can already do yoke walks with hundreds of pounds over my back squat. I get this effect from the squat.
So why would I risk injury if I didn’t have to? Why fatigue myself before the actual lift? Why let the bar bounce out of position on my back before I try to hit the perfect groove?
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You’re right, walking out squats is stupid and does nothing positive for the lift. Injury potential is high.
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Give me 2 weeks with a suit and I can do 600+ without a walkout and I will put up money in the niagara falls Buffalo area. I weigh 165 and I am 52yrs old. Give me a meet.
BB[/quote]
you say 52. your profile says 47.
you have no pictures.
you have no videos.
Lets see some proof of, well, anything. [/quote]
hahahahahahaha
sorry Dixie, he is real.
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bein serious, then who are you (BB)?[/quote]
Yeah, I can vouch for him too, as can ouroboro. Hah.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]DixiesFinest wrote:
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Give me 2 weeks with a suit and I can do 600+ without a walkout and I will put up money in the niagara falls Buffalo area. I weigh 165 and I am 52yrs old. Give me a meet.
BB[/quote]
you say 52. your profile says 47.
you have no pictures.
you have no videos.
Lets see some proof of, well, anything. [/quote]
hahahahahahaha
sorry Dixie, he is real.
[/quote]
bein serious, then who are you (BB)?[/quote]
Yeah, I can vouch for him too, as can ouroboro. Hah. [/quote]
That’s right. I can. I’m living with Ed Coan in disguise 
Seriously though, long time Canadian competitive powerlifter who apparently still likes to stir up shit.
When I started this thread the statement was meant mostly for lifters who have to walk out a squat. After reading it again I can see how the monolift crowd might get defensive. I apologize to those lifters, as I respect anyone that has the guts to lift heavy in competition. I was corrected by a few members, in that I meant to say if you can walk it out you can squat it. Sorry for the confusion.
To those who are wondering why my profile is so vague, I originally started on T-Nation to post a few messages to people I already knew personally. I later told them who I was. I never changed my status since because really it just did not ocurr to me to do so. I also don’t feel that I have to add anything or change things in my profile to satisfy anyone. I can be as anonymous as I or for that matter you choose to be. This is the internet after all. I try to be as truthful and respectful in my posts as I can. I have no problem giving out any info as needed in a PM if anyone wants it though.
Since this thread has evolved into the mono versus the walked out squat, I will add to it by saying that to those who say the mono was invented to enhance safety, it was created to give lifters an opportunity to lift more weight. Any safety issues that might be created are negated by putting far more weight on the bar than would be tolerated by walking it out. Our sport isn’t about safety, it’s about pushing the limits.
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
When I started this thread the statement was meant mostly for lifters who have to walk out a squat. After reading it again I can see how the monolift crowd might get defensive. I apologize to those lifters, as I respect anyone that has the guts to lift heavy in competition. I was corrected by a few members, in that I meant to say if you can walk it out you can squat it. Sorry for the confusion.
To those who are wondering why my profile is so vague, I originally started on T-Nation to post a few messages to people I already knew personally. I later told them who I was. I never changed my status since because really it just did not ocurr to me to do so. I also don’t feel that I have to add anything or change things in my profile to satisfy anyone. I can be as anonymous as I or for that matter you choose to be. This is the internet after all. I try to be as truthful and respectful in my posts as I can. I have no problem giving out any info as needed in a PM if anyone wants it though.
Since this thread has evolved into the mono versus the walked out squat, I will add to it by saying that to those who say the mono was invented to enhance safety, it was created to give lifters an opportunity to lift more weight. Any safety issues that might be created are negated by putting far more weight on the bar than would be tolerated by walking it out. Our sport isn’t about safety, it’s about pushing the limits. [/quote]
I agree slightly with this. I still don’t think the greater weights equals as much risk as walking out squats.
I have a monolift in my office in the back. When I train by myself I set up safety chains. Can’t do this with the power rack and pins. I know, both will catch the weight, but after losing one on the monolift , it was so much better than getting stuck on pins.
There is also the issue on training with bands and chains. It’s a lot easier than using a power rack of you use these methods. Walking a squat out with bands is damn near impossible and the same goes with chains.
[quote]Big Bencher wrote:
Since this thread has evolved into the mono versus the walked out squat, I will add to it by saying that to those who say the mono was invented to enhance safety, it was created to give lifters an opportunity to lift more weight. Any safety issues that might be created are negated by putting far more weight on the bar than would be tolerated by walking it out. Our sport isn’t about safety, it’s about pushing the limits. [/quote]
I’d rather push the limits for a few more years rather than suffer a huge injury that could be avoided. I’ll use my squat uprights until I get something safer like a rack or a mono, but if I had these things, why wouldn’t I use them?
And I’m not sure, are you ACTUALLY saying that a monolift allows so much more weight to be used that it’s less safe than a walked out squat? I can get maybe 10lbs more from not walking it out, and in trade for that 10lbs I don’t have to wobble to get into a wider stance. Besides that, when I don’t walk it out, I’m tighter and the bar is in better position on my back, 2 things that make the lift safer regardless of weight.
I’m curious, have you ever actually used a monolift, or are you just coming up with this from what you’ve seen?
I’ll give the bencher some more props from what I remember. I absolutely could tell i would make a lift when it felt right on my back. Never fail. I made some when it felt heavy, but not as often.
With the monolift and some of this new gear I see people stuff that is beyond their abilities that they would not attempt otherwise. There is no way some of the wide squatters could do that stuff without a monolift, especially with double ply suits, canvas etc.
But I still think they’re a good idea and will help to prevent injuries.
I have used a mono and I honestly like them. I can see so many advantages using bands and chains, as there would be no swaying or pulling all over when you walk out the banded squats. The safety aspects are achieved as Tom said with the chains or some sort of straps, not the mono itself.The safety straps became a necessary addition just like the safety stands on a bench.
It isn’t easy to walkout a squat. It is a skill you develop with lots of practice and is a part of the lift in my fed. If the fed decides to get a mono rule in I don’t have a problem with it. Until then I have to walk it out. As I corrected in my previous post I think if I can walk it out I should be able to squat it. It is a mental mindset that you must have if you have to walk out a squat.
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