[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:
[quote]165StateChamp wrote:
[quote]23278 wrote:
Perhaps the problem is that some of you don’t understand that him being lean is not impressive because, well, it isn’t to the bodybuilding community. Guy looks good no doubt, but it’s nothing special in this atmosphere.[/quote]
Can you stay as lean as he did year round? You have a great physique and stay pretty lean from what I’ve seen, but I highly doubt it. Being able to stay that lean IS impressive.
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What does staying lean year round have to do with the sport of bodybuilding? it’s about bringing the best physique on contest day, you don’t get extra points for being leaner throughout the year. No reason a competing bodybuilder would want to stay contest lean year round when it would lead to a less impressive stage physique in the end when they are actually judged.
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I’m going to write a few things are off-topic to what you’re saying but it’s the only way to get my point across. What Aziz/Zyzz aspired to was a physique similar to drugged bodybuilders like Arnold or Zane or one similar to high-level ‘natural’ bodybuilders like Ulisses Williams Jr. Those are bodybuilders who stayed lean. Most natural pros stay very lean in the offseason. Most competitive drugged bodybuilders these days stay leaner than almost any poster on this site. Shelby Starnes is lean in his offseason. John Meadows is lean in his offseason.
While Zyzz wasn’t a bodybuilder, he (at least at one point) wanted a ‘natural’ bodybuilding physique. He took the fast route and got there by using drugs. His physique is no different than many natural bodybuilders or even drugged bodybuilders or physique competitors you might find on stage. His leanness is impressive in and of itself. There are very few people who manage to stay that lean while simultaneously making massive gains. He’s impressive in the same way that Brandon Curry, Mad Titan and kingbeef323 are impressive; they’re all guys that stayed lean by any standard while getting bigger. [/quote]
If you followed Shelbys spills while he was getting ready for his show you would have seen that he was not zyyzyz lean in the offseason. Dude dropped 30-40 something pounds in his prep. Neither does Brandon Curry. Your response to 23278 and him getting in contest condition was “well can you stay that way year round like zyyyx.” My point is that is NOT what bodybuilding is judged on. Im not saying get Trey Brewer fat and that all bodybuilders do that, but staying contest type lean year round is not the optimal way to make improvements for the next year. [/quote]
I’m Shelby’s Facebook friend and I make sure to creep his page every day. lol. I’m well aware of Shelby’s preferences in the offseason and he talks all the time about wanting to stay lean and not get too fat. If he does look ‘fat’, it’s because of the drugs he’s on. Also, Shelby gets very, very lean. 30-40 pounds is totally understandable in his case. Brandon Curry has been said to stay at ‘6 weeks out’ levels of conditioning year round.
In conclusion, I am not saying that people should stay in contest shape year round. That was not my argument at all. I am saying that being ‘lean’ year round is a good thing. The main point of my posts has been to refute what Akuma01 said. Being lean like that, for the short term or even year round, is impressive. Not too many people can do that.