Ok, so I"ve been eating, A LOT! Just like you guys said. TONS of protein. And I’ve been working out.
Sounds good, right?
Bad part is, I’m getting a little belly fat, and I can’t stand it. It’s really not noticable to others, but I know it’s there, and I hate it.
So what exercises would help the most with the stubborn belly fat and developing love handles?
Thanks in advance.
PS - I finally put up a friggin’ pic.
If you are getting a belly, then you are eating too much…
Either way, as long as you are adding muscle too, I wouldn’t worry about it too much as long as it doesn’t get out of control.
My waist has gone from a 32 to a 33, sometimes 34. It’s driving me crazy. My abs used to be cut, now they look like a beach bum.
I guess I need to cut back on the chow and just dog the protein.
what’s the quality of your nutrition plan look like ?
[quote]kevinlee wrote:
My waist has gone from a 32 to a 33, sometimes 34. It’s driving me crazy. My abs used to be cut, now they look like a beach bum.
I guess I need to cut back on the chow and just dog the protein. [/quote]
I don’t think I would get upset over an INCH INCREASE around your waist.
Probably better to be looking at body composition numbers. Can you get a fat test/caliper test at your gym every two weeks or so?
If so the formula I have seen is –
gaining more fat than muscle? drop 250 cals a day from your current daily total and test again in two weeks
gaining more muscle than fat? add 250 cals a day to your current daily total and test again in two weeks
Make sure your carbs are clean.
JMHO
[quote]e-loo wrote:
gaining more muscle than fat? add 250 cals a day to your current daily total and test again in two weeks
Make sure your carbs are clean.
JMHO
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uh… why would you want to add more calories if you have the perfect balance?
My nutrition plan isn’t the best. I struggle with that more than anything. So much info on here (and other places) keeps me trying to figure out what’s what.
I eat fried food alot (peanut oil) which I know is bad. But I’ve quit smoking, drinking and most of the junk food.
I use BSN protein , alternate Garbage and nanoVAPOR, and BCAA’s during and after workout.
have you tried carb cycling? works for me. check this out:
I think there’s an old, often forgotten exercise called 'Push-Aways" that TC probably mentioned a long while back… THey should solve your problem quite nicely I would imagine.
The next time you find yourself eating more than someone of your size should realiztically be needing, PUSH YOUR FAT ASS AWAY FROM THE TABLE -lol
-Stu
Lol, Stu. Pretty funny. The thing is I’m afraid I won’t get enough food to build. There’s a fine line there, I know.
I understand bro, after serious ass kicking training I feel like it’s my job to shovel the food in. I just came off a year long injury about 3 months ago, and in that time I’ve put back on about 15-20 lbs (not all muscle, but a nice amount). As good as it felt to feel somewhat swole again, I knew I needed to cut back a bit, and as of today, it’s been 2 weeks of ‘dieting’ for me. Amazingly, I dont think I’ve lost any noticable muscle size. I’ll describe what I’m doing if you want, and maybe you can steal pieces of it (my present avator pic was snapped last thursday 7/26, but I’m avoiding the scale until the end of next month, just using the mirror as a gauge)
-Keeping carbs ‘relatively’ low. Aside from Oatmeal w/raisins in the morning, and a poptart post workout, I’m taking in all my other carbs in the form of green vegetables (which will help you feel ‘full’ as well as provide fiber to keeps everything “moving along”).
INgesting about 15-20g of fish oils each day
Protein every 3 hours (Casein shake, Turkey omlette, Burgers, Chicken)
Even though I’m not counting calories, I started at 210 lbs, and wasn’t really “fat” at that weight, so I’m just cutting back slightly at each meal (6 eggs instead of 9, burger but no cheese on it, smaller protein servings and larger vegetable servings at dinner…)
-On Saturday, I eat whatever the hell I want, which mentally makes this pretty easy (have had cake and ice cream the past 2 saturdays along with 2 bowls of oatmeal, cold cereal, whatever).
-I’m also not doing any cardio. I don’t want to really end up losing any muscle, and because I’m committed to doing this slowly, I dont think it will make a difference overall.
Oh yeah, I’m also taking TRIBEX (tribulus), 1/2 serve of Creatine, and a handful of BCAAs mid workout.
-Stu
Hey, I really appreciate that. Good info. But here’s where I"m trippin: You’re the second guy I"ve heard say he eats poptarts post workout. I figured they’d be off limits, since they’re basically sugar. Is there an ingredient I"m missing that may help in my endeavor?
Also, what’s your opinion on the Vapor stuff? (nitric oxide supplement) and BSN protein. I"ve heard it’s good, and I’ve heard it’s garbage. So many opinions.
For fish oils, you can get that at WalMart, right? Any particular kind?
I just tanked up with carbs. I had a huge ass bowl of cheesey rice and chicken, with cheese on top, lol. According to your program, that’s a no no, right?
My basic problem is diet. I can work out plenty, but just don’t seem to have time to get the ‘proper’ diet thing going right. And I know what you’re gonna say, ‘if it’s important enough, you’ll MAKE time’, and you’re right.
When I started, I figured working out would be the hardest. Boy was I wrong!!! This diet stuff is MUCH harder, not only trying to stick to it, but planning it. How many carbs on how many days, etc. Brain boggling!!!
But yeah, thanks for the tips, and keep any of that stuff that you’re willing to share rollin’ in.
As for being swole, you’re alot more swole than me, dude.
Okay Kev, listen cuz this is key… POST WORKOUT SUGAR IS GOOD! -lol the rest of the time, you want to limit it, but after beating the hell out of your body, creating an Insulin Spike is just waht you want.
Aside from Post workout stuff, most of the year (when I’m not trying to tighten up), I eat whatever I want but a per John Berardi’s ‘Massive Eating’ strategy <-find this on a search), I just try to keep my carbs and fats separate (either eat a P+C meal, or a P+F meal, just not F+C)
You can get fish oils anywhere. I actually use Biotest’s Flameout (4x a day) but also add 3 caps at each meal of Vitamin World’s brand (pretty cheap over there)
As to the NanoVapor stuff… well, first lemme preface this with “These are my opinions” -lol I think too many people get caught up in the latest supplements without having their basics covered: adequate protein, multi vitamin, enough fiber in their diet etc. Add to that the fact that I think most DISALLOWED stuff is garbage, or at least something very simple overhyped and overpriced to take advantage of young kids and newbies… well, I wouldn’t recommend it to any of my friends.
S
I never knew that. All I’ve been doing post workout is eating protein (bagged tyson chicken, precooked) and BCAA’s, along with the steam room. Is it just as good to have a Snickers, since it’s ‘Packed with peanuts’, lol (protein) and I’m sure lots of sugar?
When you say ‘fish oil’ do you mean ‘cod fish oil’, or are they all the same? And that’s liquid stuff, right?
Also, since you seem to know your stuff, lemme ask you this:
When I work out, I’m usually moderately sore not the next day but the day after that, though I usually work out at night. However, I’m ‘never’ sore in the chest area following a chest workout, though I work my pecs out to fatigue. Should I be doing something different, because I"m not seeing the results there as much as the other parts of the body.
Thanks for giving me good advice without judging me or being a smartsss, Stu. It’s cool of you. Seems like half the guys on here think they work as comedians as their night job or something.
Bottom line of training in my book, is that whatever you’re currently doing, whether you’re getting great results, or even just mediocre ones,… will eventually stop yielding any effect whatsoever.
The hard part is being able to change what you’re doing to provide some sort of new stimulus. If you arent seeing any effects from what you’re doing… do something else! -lol Why keep wasting your time?
I just buy regular Omega 3 SOft Gels from Vitamin World. I aalso take 4 caps of Flameout each day for the added CLA and because it’s what initially helped a chronic inflammation problem I have in my arm.
S
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
e-loo wrote:
gaining more muscle than fat? add 250 cals a day to your current daily total and test again in two weeks
Make sure your carbs are clean.
JMHO
uh… why would you want to add more calories if you have the perfect balance?
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If my goal was gaining muscle, I would keep adding up until the point I started gaining fat. That’s just me though. I am probably not writing it clearly – the point being eating as much as I can to gain as much muscle as I can w/o gaining fat.
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Think of it like this, if you were sculpting a statue would you sculpt it out of a boulder or a small rock? Putting on a small amount of BF is no big deal when bulking…
Good analogy, but some people have been ‘bulking’ for years, and let’s face it, as “big” as they may think they are, they’re usually kinda fat at that point. It’s not a dig, but look at Thib’s old "Beat’ transoformation article.
He was big, he knew that much, but would always freak when he’d start dieting down because let’s face it (I’m guilty of this as well). It feel great when you put on an XL shirt and the arms are tight! -lol When my shirts start getting a little lose, I dont care how good my abs are I want to feel powerful and know that I look it.
S
I hear ya Bro, We all got to find what makes us happy. The cool thing about all of this liftin and eatin is that it’s your body and your science experiment!
[quote]kevinlee wrote:
Ok, so I"ve been eating, A LOT! Just like you guys said. TONS of protein. And I’ve been working out.
Sounds good, right?
Bad part is, I’m getting a little belly fat, and I can’t stand it. It’s really not noticable to others, but I know it’s there, and I hate it.
So what exercises would help the most with the stubborn belly fat and developing love handles?
Thanks in advance.
PS - I finally put up a friggin’ pic.[/quote]
Hi,
have you not thought of cardio before breakfast as it raises your metabolism and is more effecient to burning your BF ,but you can’t just reduce bellyfat but your overall bodyfat.
have a breakfast with carbs and proteins and then workout later in the day,if you follow this for a good few weeks you will see the results .
hope this helps.