'I Want to Look Like That Guy.' The Movie

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[quote]Magarhe wrote:
I’ve known plenty of models, male and female, who have never struggled to maintain low bodyfat and a great shape. I’ve known people who were born premature and never put on fat until their 40s despite eating all the shite under the sun. Also known a lot of athletes who ate like a horse (or more likely a pig coz a horse eats just hay) and were ripped to shreds from massive activity.

But the best of all, going across primitive rural areas (e.g remote China) and seeing everyone ripped to goddam shreds although I think that is a combination of genetics, insane constant hard work and starvation, plus lots of people who can’t hack it, died.

It is harder or easier for people depending on your personal situation.

I like the idea of this video because it will teach ordinary people that it is possible and takes hard work. There are ignorant people out there who thinks it won’t, and they will try some bullshite product, fail, and give up. Better they hear it takes hard work, and then go the full distance. Rather than think there is something wrong with them.

The other 80% of people won’t get the message, won’t do it, who cares they are a lost cause.

But this video might serve some purpose for some people.

Also, better to go for 12% bodyfat, spend 2 years getting there, enjoy the journey. What’s the frikkin’ hurry all the time? Everyone wants things now. Bodybuilding is a loooooong journey, a “marathon of sprints over decades”. Not an overnight magic pill.

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I agree with everything in this post but would like to add that I feel the documentary maker is being less than honest. I believe that his real motivation is his 15 minutes of fame. He claims that he wants to point out that there is no magic bullet when it comes to getting in excellent shape and he is 100% correct. However, when he gets his 6 pack, he whines about the difficulty of keeping it and how it is not only his burden but his family’s and friends to share. He even comes out and says you can’t sit in a chair and conduct an interview for more than a few hours or you will be exhausted. What??? People who want to have a six pack but don’t want to put in the effort will eat that shit up.

I’m going to be 43 in February and my goal is to get back into shape this year. I’ve started a photo, food, and exercise journal in order to help me make and keep track of progress. I’m willing to bet dollars to donuts that I can get a six pack and keep it without having to get out of my chair slowly.

I won’t make it to 6 percent bodyfat but that isn’t my goal either. My goal is to get the six pack and maintain it. It doesn’t have to be a shredded six pack it just has to be a six pack. By being at that level, I would have to opportunity try and get shredded should I feel the need, like when I go on summer vacation.

I am aware that maintaining 6 percent bodyfat is difficult to achieve and hard on the body but this guy doesn’t distinguish between a sexy six pack, his words, and 6%. I feel that if you are an average working schmo, like me, you can have an acceptable sixer at around 8 or 9 percent and again, should I want to put my relatives to shame at our annual reunion at the beach, all I would need to is get super strict for about six weeks prior.

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[quote]hachi wrote:
They really should have at least stated a healthy bf% you can maintain in the interview[/quote]

In the actual documentary he says 15%-20%.

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[quote]boatguy wrote:
… Haven’t seen the docu, but am curious what type of diet he was following to feel that bad.

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I watched this the other night. By the end of it when he had low energy he was down to about 1400-1700 calories a day. Low carb. No cheat meals or carb reloads. This was with cardio sessions and the same Max-OT weight training plan throughout the whole 6 months.

The video was pretty interesting. He spends the 1st 2 months gaining muscle, working out without dieting. Than he spends the rest dieting down while training. He goes from around 204 down to 157 during the 3-4 months dieting. They overdo the whole “it’s so hard to do this” bullshit. He breaks down and cries in the car. Gaylord. I also don’t like the that he states that a good bodyfat you can maintain and look good is 15%-20%. The only people looking good at 20% are the ones with a shitload of muscle on their frame so I think this is shitty advice.

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watched it.

it really silly how the guy goes on a rant, “it’s impossible to live like that, you get miserable, sad, tired, all you thinking about is food, blah blah blah”, and the next scene we have his coach, who’s <10% bf, full of life, happy, and motivating others. yeah, it’s hard. life’s hard.

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[quote]novocaine wrote:
watched it.

it really silly how the guy goes on a rant, “it’s impossible to live like that, you get miserable, sad, tired, all you thinking about is food, blah blah blah”, and the next scene we have his coach, who’s <10% bf, full of life, happy, and motivating others. yeah, it’s hard. life’s hard.[/quote]

The greatest thing Humans have going for them (us) is our ability to adapt, albeit begrudgingly in some cases.

The difference between the guy and his trainer is his trainer has been living that lifestyle for x amt of years while the lifestyle is new to the guy. If the guy lived at that percentage of body fat for x amt. of years, that lifestyle would become second nature, and he’d have to put little to no thought into planning/preparation.

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Everyone’s body has a weight (as well as leanness) at which it feels comfortable AND that it actively tries to crawl towards. You can only outwit it for so long before you need to make some drastic changes.

The dude lost weight and got leaner, but he’s too old to add serious size on the rebound. His body has been at a certain weight for just too long, and all he’d be doing is fighting to maintain his state day in and day out. And its only going to get tougher…

If you have a reason to go from 20% to 6% body fat at age 40 or whatever and stay sub 9% from then on by beginning a lifting and diet regimen, then awesome. You’d better have a good reason. (Jeff willett, Berardi, clarence bass and others make a LIVING from that, so they have a reason).
Its going to be one hard battle getting leaner, waiting till your skin tightens enough, then making some small strength gains that don’t really make a dent in your physique, and FINALLY a never ending battle to maintain your state of leanness as you get even older.

This may be difficult for some of you youngkids here to understand, but the dude in the video has no reason to stay in his “peak condition” any more…he likely feels much more mentally agile, sane and productive at say 15% body fat (and a lighter bodyweight compared to earlier), so he embarks on a weekly exercise program and eats 90% clean or whatever - allowing him to live his life a little better than he started off without severely compromising the aspects of his life he was satisfied with prior to the video.

Now, for someone who added a good size and strength foundation in his youth, he can afford to be heavier for a given leanness say 12-15% with a very light maintenance program. So he’s not really fighting to keep his body from getting heavier, he just lifts to hold his size and eats to not gain any weight. With a 3 day lifting routine and a 90% clean diet on the other hand, he can maintain his size at closer to 10%.

[quote]novocaine wrote:
watched it.

it really silly how the guy goes on a rant, “it’s impossible to live like that, you get miserable, sad, tired, all you thinking about is food, blah blah blah”, and the next scene we have his coach, who’s <10% bf, full of life, happy, and motivating others. yeah, it’s hard. life’s hard.[/quote]

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Looked like he put on a decent amount of weight since the movie (I know that maintaining 6% BF isn’t something to do long term), but his face didn’t look as lean as before.

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[quote]hih1 wrote:

I agree with everything in this post but would like to add that I feel the documentary maker is being less than honest. I believe that his real motivation is his 15 minutes of fame. He claims that he wants to point out that there is no magic bullet when it comes to getting in excellent shape and he is 100% correct. However, when he gets his 6 pack, he whines about the difficulty of keeping it and how it is not only his burden but his family’s and friends to share. He even comes out and says you can’t sit in a chair and conduct an interview for more than a few hours or you will be exhausted. What??? People who want to have a six pack but don’t want to put in the effort will eat that shit up.

I’m going to be 43 in February and my goal is to get back into shape this year. I’ve started a photo, food, and exercise journal in order to help me make and keep track of progress. I’m willing to bet dollars to donuts that I can get a six pack and keep it without having to get out of my chair slowly.

I won’t make it to 6 percent bodyfat but that isn’t my goal either. My goal is to get the six pack and maintain it. It doesn’t have to be a shredded six pack it just has to be a six pack. By being at that level, I would have to opportunity try and get shredded should I feel the need, like when I go on summer vacation.

I am aware that maintaining 6 percent bodyfat is difficult to achieve and hard on the body but this guy doesn’t distinguish between a sexy six pack, his words, and 6%. I feel that if you are an average working schmo, like me, you can have an acceptable sixer at around 8 or 9 percent and again, should I want to put my relatives to shame at our annual reunion at the beach, all I would need to is get super strict for about six weeks prior.

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Congrats on deciding to get back into good shape. Good luck on the journey. I have to comment on your join date - holy crap. First post, over 7 years after joining. :slight_smile:

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PUTAIN DE FUCKING MERDE…SEVEN years in the making, a Level 4 purchaser of supplements, and he’s still an average schmo in search of a 6 pack. LO fucking L. Long live the mediocre, the meek shall inherit the stage.

Yes, I realize not everyone on T-Nation has the same goals, and there are some of us who AIM to spend money on diet and supplements without ever looking like they lift weights, but the more I think about it, I’m glad I chose to bodybuild over kettlebells and general conditioning. Its also interesting to note that someone who picked a goal for 7 fucking years (combat, PL total, whatever) and used supplements WOULD look the fucking part if he actually drained his balls everytime he worked out.

I still am curious what this dude has been doing with the supplements though?

Oh well, maybe he has a 4 plate bench and 5 plate squat. OR maybe he will meet alexander emalyenko in a week or so…or lmaybe his goal was always to be a fucking average schmoe and he got exactly what he wanted.

If I wanted to embarass my relatives at a reunion, I’d tell them how much money I wasted on supplements since 2002 and still managed to look like an average schmoe.

[quote]cakewalk wrote:

[quote]hih1 wrote:

I agree with everything in this post but would like to add that I feel the documentary maker is being less than honest. I believe that his real motivation is his 15 minutes of fame. He claims that he wants to point out that there is no magic bullet when it comes to getting in excellent shape and he is 100% correct. However, when he gets his 6 pack, he whines about the difficulty of keeping it and how it is not only his burden but his family’s and friends to share. He even comes out and says you can’t sit in a chair and conduct an interview for more than a few hours or you will be exhausted. What??? People who want to have a six pack but don’t want to put in the effort will eat that shit up.

I’m going to be 43 in February and my goal is to get back into shape this year. I’ve started a photo, food, and exercise journal in order to help me make and keep track of progress. I’m willing to bet dollars to donuts that I can get a six pack and keep it without having to get out of my chair slowly.

I won’t make it to 6 percent bodyfat but that isn’t my goal either. My goal is to get the six pack and maintain it. It doesn’t have to be a shredded six pack it just has to be a six pack. By being at that level, I would have to opportunity try and get shredded should I feel the need, like when I go on summer vacation.

I am aware that maintaining 6 percent bodyfat is difficult to achieve and hard on the body but this guy doesn’t distinguish between a sexy six pack, his words, and 6%. I feel that if you are an average working schmo, like me, you can have an acceptable sixer at around 8 or 9 percent and again, should I want to put my relatives to shame at our annual reunion at the beach, all I would need to is get super strict for about six weeks prior.

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Congrats on deciding to get back into good shape. Good luck on the journey. I have to comment on your join date - holy crap. First post, over 7 years after joining. :slight_smile: [/quote]

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:

If I wanted to embarass my relatives at a reunion, I’d tell them how much money I wasted on supplements since 2002 and still managed to look like an average schmoe.

Good one.

No excuse but I got married two years ago and we moved away from my gym, my bjj school and my muay thai coach. I am also a small business owner and the last year and a half has been a challenge to say the least.

When you are in your forties, sometimes you forget how important your workouts can be. Especially when you are dead dog tired all the time. Needless to say I have snapped out of it, joined a gym and have taken up Krav Maga. There is some truth to the saying, “look good, feel good.”

I just hope you snap out of it and don’t remain a judgemental dick all your life.

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[quote]hih1 wrote:

I just hope you snap out of it and don’t remain a judgemental dick all your life.[/quote]

Best 2nd Post Ever.

Anyways, the filmmaker is obviously an independant guy, so you should probably go order the dvd on the website for support.

I don’t think he trashes bodybuilding during the documentary as much as you think, things are added in to docs. to compel the viewer/add suspense. I think its cool that he shared his routine and eating plans in the vid as well. And i’ve dieted down to even 8% bodyfat before. If you are a normal human being, getting down that far with little food etc DOES mess with your mind and social life.

Obviously, this doc. shows the world of obtaining a natural BBers’ physique through the eyes of the “Average Joe”. I don’t think that a physique like Jeff Willet’s is easily attainable for someone, let alone anyone who doesnt live/sleep/breath bodybuilding like some of us do on here. IF it were, we wouldnt have this 50% of people overweight or obese in america statistic.

To conclude, it’s a good documentary, Pro’s and cons to everything of course, def worth the $.

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His goal was to look like guys (in supp ads and whatnot)

He cut down to 6% BF.

He looks too skinny for any supplement ads. Even fatburners, like Lipo-6 uses Markus Ruhl in their ads, a mass-monster.

He failed his goal.

I sense that this documentary is a waste of time.

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You can watch the documentary here.

http://vidreel.com/video/NTk0MDUz/

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wow, seriosuly guys? the movie is made less than 2 years ago and is for sale, and you’re posting warez site bullshit?

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am watching it now

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Looks interesting. But like others said the messge blows. It’s a total message for mediocrity. I find it very annoying when he says things like the “terrible challanges” of craving pizza or being offered a donut.

Avoiding junk food is really easy the longer you do the easier it gets. It’s about discipline and desire.

If my desire to eat pizza is 7 and my discipline is 4 and my desire for my goals is 4 it’s going to be pretty hard not to eat it and will suck.

If my desire for pizza is 7 my discipline is 8 and my desire for my goals is 9 I can smell pizza under my nose and not care and enjoy myself.

AFter ahwile on a non extremly low calorie diet junk is not even seen as food anymore.

Another help is loveing traing. I love training and am ultra active by nature. If you are an active extrovert who is constantly out with people and loves physical active things like hiking, beach,girls, going out or sports it’s way easier and natural to be leaner and If you love lifting training is fun as hell and not considered hard or a sacrafice.

An natural innactive introvert whos into reading, video games, and generally is in the house alot will probly need a more extreme diet.

Another problem I see is unessacary strictness. You do not need to plan every meal and eat just chicken breast with raw brocli just because it’s gross doesn’t mean it makes your physique better. Scallops, shrimp, lobsters, steak, bunless hambrugers, sausage, any meat disch without a sauce, dry ribs, chicken tacos just not eating the wrap etc…

Totally delicouse stuff that is just as effective as nasty ass plain chicken breast. Not to mention readily availible wherever you go so will not force you into being a pariah.

Standing up and feeling faint, sure if your on a 1500 cal diet with zero carbs. You don’t need that at all to MaINTAIN to 8-10% bf. 100 Grams carbs a day can be THRIVED on and will get you lean. And even that is good to get you to that level and something with more carbs could maintain it. (even an average guy can have plenty of clean carbs if lifting and ultra active. (active all day) ( and intensely active like sports,lifting 2 hours a day or more)

To change his physique as fast as he did I am sure takes more pain than is needed and what is mentioned above would cause but maintaing 10% bf is easy.

Uncivilized man simply eats meat and fruit when available works(trains) for 2-4 hrs a day and is active and social for the rest of the wakeing hours. They vary by tribe but some look as lean as 5% bf on average.

Look at what is attractive to women a mans natural state (in our natural environment) is something like 8-10% bf or lower.

It’s just a matter of the bar being aimed low, avoiding donuts a challange? 15-20% bf a “helthy goal”… please.

I don’t even mention those dudes everyone knows who play pick up basketball a few times a week, and eat like shit and are 7-9% bf or leaner.

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well i enjoyed it, i agree with everyone that said the message of it was kinda shit.

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Forgot to add. aside from the messge etc.

Gotta give props to that guy that is a SICK transformation for six months.

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I don’t see whats wrong with the message:

What I got from it:

  1. It’s hard and demanding being a competetive bodybuilder.

True.

  1. Average people think that a magic supplement will make them skinny and ripped without diet and exercise.

Also True. Which is why it’s so cool that Biotest writes programs for people to follow WITH supplements.

  1. Average people don’t know how hard it is to get to bodybuilding-contest shape.

True.

And as for the cravings and stuff…

Yeah, you do get used to eating bland “healthy” foods, so your desire for crappy yummy foods does flatline after dieting for awhile.

But when you’re dieting down in general, cravings are high, especially when people offer you food! FOR FREE!

This happens to me at work all the time(I’m a contractor). Homeowners constantly want to make you feel at home and comfy while you’re working. I’m in the middle of prepping for a show this summer, and today this lady offers me this coffee thing that looked like it was out of a magazine.

Coffee, Creamer, pile of whipped cream on to with chocolate syrup swirled over the whipped cream, and a freaking rock candy stirring stick to go with it. I opted out for regular black coffee.

But holy shit, I wanted it. I wanted the huge cinnamon bun with frosting she offered me too.

I think the message was more of “average people will probably not succeed at BB’ing and would be better off doing taxing workouts and regualr cardio to get in shape.”

Which is true. Half the people on this board will never enter a show in general, let alone work out their lower body.

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[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
I don’t see whats wrong with the message:

What I got from it:

  1. It’s hard and demanding being a competetive bodybuilder.

True.

  1. Average people think that a magic supplement will make them skinny and ripped without diet and exercise.

Also True. Which is why it’s so cool that Biotest writes programs for people to follow WITH supplements.

  1. Average people don’t know how hard it is to get to bodybuilding-contest shape.

True.

And as for the cravings and stuff…

Yeah, you do get used to eating bland “healthy” foods, so your desire for crappy yummy foods does flatline after dieting for awhile.
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none of them were the messages i was talking about so when i said i agreed with other people who said the message was bullshit maybe i was mistaken, the things i didnt agree with that he said were, you cant function normally when your in single digit bf i dont know what normally for him is but allot of people can maintain 8-9 percent bf and still live normal happy lives,and the other thing was that he said most people should be 15-20 percent Bf, both these things can make people think OH gee i can have that piece of cake since being 8% bf is nonfunctional and ill be better off being 15% bf.