Just watched it.
Thinking about the body fat thing.
Do people really maintain sub 10% b/f full time? To they lead lives that aren’t based around it? (Serious question)
The other thing I’d throw in there is that (I think) 10% body fat looks great on larger guys. Someone carrying around even just a moderate amount of LBM at 10% B/F should have visible abs and generally good definition, where a dude who is average hightish and 160 pounds or less @ 10% b/f might not even have visible abs. I’ve seem pictures if guys 6-8% without visible abs because they had so little muscle under there.
I’m also guessing that one’s body can adapt to sub-10% B/F over the years if it’s kept there. I’m actually really impressed/surprised at how much LBM this guy was actually able to keep given how quickly he lost the weight.
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
I’m actually really impressed/surprised at how much LBM this guy was actually able to keep given how quickly he lost the weight. [/quote]
The guy didn’t have much of any LBM. If anything, it’s just a testament to show what being really lean does for a physique, because at the end of the day this guy was tiny.
[quote]Kerley wrote:
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
I don’t see whats wrong with the message:
What I got from it:
- It’s hard and demanding being a competetive bodybuilder.
True.
- Average people think that a magic supplement will make them skinny and ripped without diet and exercise.
Also True. Which is why it’s so cool that Biotest writes programs for people to follow WITH supplements.
- Average people don’t know how hard it is to get to bodybuilding-contest shape.
True.
And as for the cravings and stuff…
Yeah, you do get used to eating bland “healthy” foods, so your desire for crappy yummy foods does flatline after dieting for awhile.
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none of them were the messages i was talking about so when i said i agreed with other people who said the message was bullshit maybe i was mistaken, the things i didnt agree with that he said were, you cant function normally when your in single digit bf i dont know what normally for him is but allot of people can maintain 8-9 percent bf and still live normal happy lives,and the other thing was that he said most people should be 15-20 percent Bf, both these things can make people think OH gee i can have that piece of cake since being 8% bf is nonfunctional and ill be better off being 15% bf.[/quote]
Gotta disagree with ya there man. Although some people are really lean naturally(usually pretty scrawny too when it is “maintainable” i might add), you’ll never see anyone on the off season at 8-9 percent bodyfat on a consistent basis. Theres an off season pic thread in the BB forum, and most guys there are def above 8-9% if even as low as 12%.
I do agree, however, that 15-20% as “healthy” isn’t accurate at all. It was merely the status quo of people in their 40’s(the filmmaker’s age).
[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
I’m actually really impressed/surprised at how much LBM this guy was actually able to keep given how quickly he lost the weight. [/quote]
The guy didn’t have much of any LBM. If anything, it’s just a testament to show what being really lean does for a physique, because at the end of the day this guy was tiny.
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yeah man, he was 5’7 and 160 lbs. Not a big guy at all for sure, but his conditioning was spot on.
Jeff Willet was at around the same height and came in at 198 1/2 on stage, most likely less body fat as well when he won the Team Mr. Universe. If you compare the two, you really get a feel of what 40 lbs more of LBM on the same height does for someone.
The message of the film was there’s no magic supplement or workout, if you want to look like a bodybuilder/fitness model it requires hard work and discipline. He also states that single digit body fat isn’t functional, I can’t say I disagree. How many people do you know maintaining a single digit BF percentage year round? If it’s not something you want to strive for then being at 10-15% isn’t a bad thing, it’s much easier for the average person too.
The best part of this documentary in my opinion is near the beginning when he just starts training. In 18 weeks he drops from 27% to 21% bf with no particular attention to his diet. He just weight trained regularly and did 16 mins of intense cardio a day. Even if overweight people do come away from watching it thinking its way too hard to get down to a low bodyfat percentage it should at least show them that its easy to get down to 20% just with regular exercise and no careful dieting and sacrifice. Thats a start anyway.
And with reference to other posters, I think the reason why he felt so bad when dieting is the fact that he dropped the weight so quickly. It would have probably been a lot easier if he dropped down to 10%, maintained that for a while and then dropped again to sub 6% (for the record the final bf test is taken just over a week before the contest so he will have been below 6%).