I Want That Reaction...

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[quote]SSC wrote:
Psh, that’s totally fucking stupid! You’re a dumbass for wanting people to be able to tell you lift walking down sidewalk. You know, you can never even get that big honestly, so you might as well stop now.

Delusions of grandeur much?

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/300_mother_fckin_pounds?id=2958464&pageNo=0
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For a ‘bodybuilding’ forum, why is there such hate for being wanted to be that huge?

I’m fully aware of what it takes to get there in terms of years spent training/AAS/genetics/etc…

Why should I stop? I’m going to get as big as I physically can, it may not be 260lbs or whatever because stuff like genetics/life/etc… might come in the way

and maybe, I just said “i wanna be 400lbs @ 2% BF” with slight jest?

sheesh.

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[quote]taleb wrote:
chris666 wrote:
Markus Rühl goes shopping:

The blank minute long stare of the girl at the end of the clip at the checkout is hilarious.

That’s still my fave reaction video lol
[/quote]

lol, i think deep down, the first time they pick up a barbell, every teenage boy wants to cause the “ruhl effect” on others someday. many grow out of it, but we all started working out to get noticed (maybe not ‘omg freak’ noticed, maybe just ‘he’s hot’ noticed, but noticed in someway).

lets be honest, even in the most jaded moments, it feels good when someone grabs your upper arm or shoulder, doesnt it?

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[quote]taleb wrote:
SSC wrote:
Psh, that’s totally fucking stupid! You’re a dumbass for wanting people to be able to tell you lift walking down sidewalk. You know, you can never even get that big honestly, so you might as well stop now.

Delusions of grandeur much?

http://www.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/300_mother_fckin_pounds?id=2958464&pageNo=0

For a ‘bodybuilding’ forum, why is there such hate for being wanted to be that huge?

I’m fully aware of what it takes to get there in terms of years spent training/AAS/genetics/etc…

Why should I stop? I’m going to get as big as I physically can, it may not be 260lbs or whatever because stuff like genetics/life/etc… might come in the way

and maybe, I just said “i wanna be 400lbs @ 2% BF” with slight jest?

sheesh.[/quote]

Um… that post was made tongue-in-cheek, hence mentioning Austin’s thread. I’m right there with you, dude.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
taleb wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Lift for you, not for the reaction of others.

I know, obviously

but my point was - when people say “when do you know you’re big”

when people give you that kind of reaction

my point was, I want to be big… for myself

but it’d be a bonus to receive such ‘compliments’

Look everyone can act all “Hardcore” and say they just do it for themselves and don’t care what others think, but that’s a load of shit. We all do this for some sort of recognition from our peers. If someone says otherwise they are either A) lying or B) Don’t get noticed because they look like crap and are bitter.

Somehow this post didn’t exist when I posted earlier, but good fucking point. I hate it when people say “Nah man, you ONLY do this for yourself. If you care what other people think about you you’re in it for the wrong reason.”

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard? Everyone gives a shit about how others perceive them to a certain extent.[/quote]

I can agree with you to a certain extent, I think lots of people actually begin bodybuilding out of self-esteem issues (changing how they are perceived).

But I think being driven solely by that would drive a person mad. IMHO, the best strategy for long-term success would be to do it because you actually like it - for yourself. Obviously, we can’t really isolate the two though.

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[quote]Burst wrote:
SSC wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
taleb wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Lift for you, not for the reaction of others.

I know, obviously

but my point was - when people say “when do you know you’re big”

when people give you that kind of reaction

my point was, I want to be big… for myself

but it’d be a bonus to receive such ‘compliments’

Look everyone can act all “Hardcore” and say they just do it for themselves and don’t care what others think, but that’s a load of shit. We all do this for some sort of recognition from our peers. If someone says otherwise they are either A) lying or B) Don’t get noticed because they look like crap and are bitter.

Somehow this post didn’t exist when I posted earlier, but good fucking point. I hate it when people say “Nah man, you ONLY do this for yourself. If you care what other people think about you you’re in it for the wrong reason.”

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard? Everyone gives a shit about how others perceive them to a certain extent.

I can agree with you to a certain extent, I think lots of people actually begin bodybuilding out of self-esteem issues (changing how they are perceived).

But I think being driven solely by that would drive a person mad. IMHO, the best strategy for long-term success would be to do it because you actually like it - for yourself. Obviously, we can’t really isolate the two though. [/quote]

True, true. I guess I didn’t mean to sound like I was saying bodybuilders are only externally motivated. For instance, in regards to the Ruhl shopping video, one can only assume that’s the kind of shit they go through on a daily basis.

You’ve got to have a lot of love for what you’re doing or have thick skin to continue doing what they do without trying to look “normal” like Levrone.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
Burst wrote:
SSC wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
taleb wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Lift for you, not for the reaction of others.

I know, obviously

but my point was - when people say “when do you know you’re big”

when people give you that kind of reaction

my point was, I want to be big… for myself

but it’d be a bonus to receive such ‘compliments’

Look everyone can act all “Hardcore” and say they just do it for themselves and don’t care what others think, but that’s a load of shit. We all do this for some sort of recognition from our peers. If someone says otherwise they are either A) lying or B) Don’t get noticed because they look like crap and are bitter.

Somehow this post didn’t exist when I posted earlier, but good fucking point. I hate it when people say “Nah man, you ONLY do this for yourself. If you care what other people think about you you’re in it for the wrong reason.”

That’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard? Everyone gives a shit about how others perceive them to a certain extent.

I can agree with you to a certain extent, I think lots of people actually begin bodybuilding out of self-esteem issues (changing how they are perceived).

But I think being driven solely by that would drive a person mad. IMHO, the best strategy for long-term success would be to do it because you actually like it - for yourself. Obviously, we can’t really isolate the two though.

True, true. I guess I didn’t mean to sound like I was saying bodybuilders are only externally motivated. For instance, in regards to the Ruhl shopping video, one can only assume that’s the kind of shit they go through on a daily basis.

You’ve got to have a lot of love for what you’re doing or have thick skin to continue doing what they do without trying to look “normal” like Levrone.[/quote]

Just had to bring Levrone into this, eh?
Maybe Ruhl wouldn’t get so much attention if he didn’t walk around in a shirt with his nipples hanging out.

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[quote]SSC wrote:
Burst wrote:
SSC wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
taleb wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:

You’ve got to have a lot of love for what you’re doing or have thick skin to continue doing what they do without trying to look “normal” like Levrone.[/quote]

Why are you hating on Levrone? He was at the Top, and didn’t want that anymore people’s goals change as they get older.

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[quote]Artem wrote:

Just had to bring Levrone into this, eh?
Maybe Ruhl wouldn’t get so much attention if he didn’t walk around in a shirt with his nipples hanging out.
[/quote]

Ouch. However, in his defense, I doubt there are very many shirts available that actually make him look smaller.

I do agree though, I don’t get stared at as much when I wear a full loose t-shirt as I do when I wear a tank top.

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[quote]optheta wrote:
SSC wrote:
Burst wrote:
SSC wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
taleb wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:

You’ve got to have a lot of love for what you’re doing or have thick skin to continue doing what they do without trying to look “normal” like Levrone.

Why are you hating on Levrone? He was at the Top, and didn’t want that anymore people’s goals change as they get older.[/quote]

When the fuck did I hate on Levrone? I was alluding to the fact that Levrone lost weight to be an actor so he wouldn’t be seen as the “meathead” and get type-casted into the role.

Use logic and comprehension when you read, it helps.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Artem wrote:

Just had to bring Levrone into this, eh?
Maybe Ruhl wouldn’t get so much attention if he didn’t walk around in a shirt with his nipples hanging out.

Ouch. However, in his defense, I doubt there are very many shirts available that actually make him look smaller.

I do agree though, I don’t get stared at as much when I wear a full loose t-shirt as I do when I wear a tank top. [/quote]

I think for a lot of people it’s not so much the sheer size but size + conditioning that REALLY freaks people out

There’s a friend of mine [5’7", 220lbs on stage condition weight]
and he is always wearing ‘loose’ clothing, or certainly long-sleeved

and most people think he’s just “big” or even fat [because he has the phil heath chubby face even when fairly lean]

but on the rare moments people see him with a vest on or something ‘revealing’, and they see the veins, cuts combined with the size it’s like - DAMN !! and he gets loads more comments

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Artem wrote:

Just had to bring Levrone into this, eh?
Maybe Ruhl wouldn’t get so much attention if he didn’t walk around in a shirt with his nipples hanging out.

Ouch. However, in his defense, I doubt there are very many shirts available that actually make him look smaller.

I do agree though, I don’t get stared at as much when I wear a full loose t-shirt as I do when I wear a tank top. [/quote]

I think Ruhl would have to get really large shirts as well in order to fit over his upper body lol. It’s probably easier to just wear shirts with no sleeves.

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If you want that much attention, walk around in one of borat’s shoulder-strap thongs.

Look at all the hot girls it got him.

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[quote]Goodfellow wrote:
If you want that much attention, walk around in one of borat’s shoulder-strap thongs.

Look at all the hot girls it got him.[/quote]

I tried this, and I didn’t get shit.

Except my ass kicked.

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[quote]Polish Rifle wrote:
People always react to someone that stands out in a crowd.

You see similar reactions to midgets, heavily chested women, the morbidly obese, extremely thin people, and even folks with physical disabilities.
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Agreed.

I’d rather get attention for an achievement like building an exceptional physique, even if other people don’t share this goal or consider me a freak, than a disability, letting my body deteriorate to the point of being obese etc, though.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
taleb wrote:
bicepenvy wrote:
Lift for you, not for the reaction of others.

I know, obviously

but my point was - when people say “when do you know you’re big”

when people give you that kind of reaction

my point was, I want to be big… for myself

but it’d be a bonus to receive such ‘compliments’

Look everyone can act all “Hardcore” and say they just do it for themselves and don’t care what others think, but that’s a load of shit. We all do this for some sort of recognition from our peers. If someone says otherwise they are either A) lying or B) Don’t get noticed because they look like crap and are bitter.[/quote]

I’ve always used comments (from those who I know are serious lifters) to gauge my own progress. If I run into someone who hasn’t seen me in months or years and they didn’t notice any positive change, I would assume I had been wasting my time. Luckily, I haven’t had that happen.

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[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
Look everyone can act all “Hardcore” and say they just do it for themselves and don’t care what others think, but that’s a load of shit. We all do this for some sort of recognition from our peers. If someone says otherwise they are either A) lying or B) Don’t get noticed because they look like crap and are bitter.[/quote]

Somewhat true. I love to lift. Vanity aside, I like to look at my muscles and the results of my work. Seeing progress in myself is enough to feed me, but recognition is always welcome. Especially from girls who like to feel the muscles. Its not what drives me, but its a nice bonus.

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I think everyone in the back of their mind wants that reaction. For most of us it changes who you are not just on the outside but how we percieve ourselves. I still believe that you have to want it for yourself, there just aren’t that many people around you, staring at you or telling you how big you are. This whole thing is about vanity (deep down). Is that an oxymoron?

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[quote]musclegym wrote:
I think everyone in the back of their mind wants that reaction. For most of us it changes who you are not just on the outside but how we percieve ourselves. I still believe that you have to want it for yourself, there just aren’t that many people around you, staring at you or telling you how big you are. This whole thing is about vanity (deep down). Is that an oxymoron?[/quote]

Not really. I am not sure vanity is the right word.

Outside of plastic surgery or a “Talk Show Make Over”, bodybuilding is the only activity that DRASTICALLY changes the way you look over time as well as how you perform (strength). Anyone saying a change that significant has no effect on their personality and how they perceive themselves is lying.

That would be like going through boot camp and thinking that would have no effect on how you see yourself. You proved you could do it…which makes you that much more knowledgeable about who you are and what you can do than the guy who has never tested himself.

Whether you call that self esteem or simply knowing yourself, the guy who is aware of just how far he can go because he’s been there will always have an advantage over those who were afraid to try or never came close.

That alone has been an advantage to me in every life experience since I first picked up a weight.

There are, however, many haters out there who try their best to make this seem like a negative…as if bodybuilding is for those with low self esteem…as if it denotes weakness. I was never weak to begin with. I just know for a fact that I’m stronger than most now inside and out.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Artem wrote:

Just had to bring Levrone into this, eh?
Maybe Ruhl wouldn’t get so much attention if he didn’t walk around in a shirt with his nipples hanging out.

Ouch. However, in his defense, I doubt there are very many shirts available that actually make him look smaller.

I do agree though, I don’t get stared at as much when I wear a full loose t-shirt as I do when I wear a tank top. [/quote]

Yep, It is difficult not to stare at someone wearing what he wears when he goes shopping. I agree, though that he would still look massive regardless.

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You’re right. He looks almost normal as long as his nipples don’t show!

(mind you, the police guy in the second pic also trains and is certainly no small man…)

;D