[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
Joe its great that your back is up to pulling again. I am really sensitive to back rounding because I work so hard to banish it from my own lifting. That is more rounding then I would like to see. Are you focusing on keeping a back arch when you pull?[/quote]
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[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
Joe its great that your back is up to pulling again. I am really sensitive to back rounding because I work so hard to banish it from my own lifting. That is more rounding then I would like to see. Are you focusing on keeping a back arch when you pull?[/quote]
I am “trying”, I’ve never been able to get a very pronounced back arch and have been relatively happy with keep a neutral spine. That said I’m always looking to imporve so any suggestions are more than welcome. I dropped my training max very low so that I could work on form for a good long time.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
Joe its great that your back is up to pulling again. I am really sensitive to back rounding because I work so hard to banish it from my own lifting. That is more rounding then I would like to see. Are you focusing on keeping a back arch when you pull?[/quote]
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okay let me ask you a question, is it possible I would be able to maintain a tighter and better arch, with a higher hip position?
Joe, I really don’t know jack squat about how to fix form issues. But I would really wonder what a super easy weight looks like for you. If you were lifting 135 lbs. would your form look the same as that video or different?
For me, when I don’t round my back I feel very clearly that my butt and legs are working to pull the weight back and into my body. When I round my back, I feel the weight more in my lower back and way less in my glutes and I feel that I’m reaching forward and picking the weight up instead of “pulling” it back into my body.
In order not to round my back I have to consciously think about sticking my butt way, way back to the wall in back of me. At that point, I can feel my back arch and then I try to keep it going throughout the lift.
Its really difficult for me to keep any semblance of a straight back, and my wish to do so limits the weights I lift.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
Joe its great that your back is up to pulling again. I am really sensitive to back rounding because I work so hard to banish it from my own lifting. That is more rounding then I would like to see. Are you focusing on keeping a back arch when you pull?[/quote]
I am “trying”, I’ve never been able to get a very pronounced back arch and have been relatively happy with keep a neutral spine. That said I’m always looking to imporve so any suggestions are more than welcome. I dropped my training max very low so that I could work on form for a good long time.[/quote]
I’m going to come to your defence Joe. I didn’t think your form was too bad. I’ve, like you, tried to keep this arched lower back that we’re told by experts like rippetoe etc is so desireable, but I cant. I can do to it squatting but I just can’t do it deadlifting despite being told by a chiropractor that I have a very flexible spine. I think this position just feels un-natural to some of us. So I concentrate on trying to keep my back “straight” as it feels to me and my head up. Sure your hips could do with being a bit lower, but only you can tell if your form is o.k. for you. If your lower back feels fine 24 hrs later its probably alright, if its “screaming”, then probably not.
I also think that obsessing about trying to keep or get an arch can limit your progress, because using a weight light enough so that you can keep a nice arch in your lower back is kind of missing the point about deadlifting isn’t it?
Finally, you critics! watch this video and let me know how many arched lower backs you see!
Happy Birthday Joe
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Happy Birthday Joe[/quote]
You too brother, Semper Fi devil dog.
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Happy Birthday Joe[/quote]
Joe, is it your birthday TODAY?
edit: sorry, missed the Marines post. Must be nice to be part of a brotherhood like that.
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
Finally, you critics! [/quote]
Now, now. Let’s not get testy. Kimba and I are both huge pullers and are just trying to help Joe.
Seriously, I’ve thrown my back out by rounding it, so I’m a bit sensitive to seeing others do it.
[quote]kpsnap wrote:
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
Finally, you critics! [/quote]
Now, now. Let’s not get testy. Kimba and I are both huge pullers and are just trying to help Joe.
Seriously, I’ve thrown my back out by rounding it, so I’m a bit sensitive to seeing others do it. [/quote]
I appreciate the concern, feel free to form nazi me any time. Seriously, I need to hear it.
[quote]giterdone wrote:
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Happy Birthday Joe[/quote]
Joe, is it your birthday TODAY?
edit: sorry, missed the Marines post. Must be nice to be part of a brotherhood like that.[/quote]
It really is.
[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
Joe its great that your back is up to pulling again. I am really sensitive to back rounding because I work so hard to banish it from my own lifting. That is more rounding then I would like to see. Are you focusing on keeping a back arch when you pull?[/quote]
I am “trying”, I’ve never been able to get a very pronounced back arch and have been relatively happy with keep a neutral spine. That said I’m always looking to imporve so any suggestions are more than welcome. I dropped my training max very low so that I could work on form for a good long time.[/quote]
I’m going to come to your defence Joe. I didn’t think your form was too bad. I’ve, like you, tried to keep this arched lower back that we’re told by experts like rippetoe etc is so desireable, but I cant. I can do to it squatting but I just can’t do it deadlifting despite being told by a chiropractor that I have a very flexible spine. I think this position just feels un-natural to some of us. So I concentrate on trying to keep my back “straight” as it feels to me and my head up. Sure your hips could do with being a bit lower, but only you can tell if your form is o.k. for you. If your lower back feels fine 24 hrs later its probably alright, if its “screaming”, then probably not.
I also think that obsessing about trying to keep or get an arch can limit your progress, because using a weight light enough so that you can keep a nice arch in your lower back is kind of missing the point about deadlifting isn’t it?
Finally, you critics! watch this video and let me know how many arched lower backs you see!
That video makes me want to go pull right freaking now!
Both Wendler and Rippetoe have agreed that while you should always strive for an arched back, when moving a heavy load your back WILL round. It is fighting against the rounding that keeps you tight and helps you transfer force.
Little Andy, for instance, if he wasn’t fighting to keep his back arched, he would only be able to deadlift 500 instead of 1k.
its like keeping your upper back tight when you squat. you don’t have to. you can squat a decent amount without a tight upper back. but you can’t squat real heavy unless you work to keep the upper back tight.
rambling.
sorry
So I made the mistake of going into SAMA and reading that shit.
There are some people who think this girl is fat. Really… seriously?
What the hell is wrong with people. She’s a little young, but fat? I think of a lot of things when I see that picture but fat isn’t one of them.
[quote]mjnewland wrote:
Both Wendler and Rippetoe have agreed that while you should always strive for an arched back, when moving a heavy load your back WILL round. It is fighting against the rounding that keeps you tight and helps you transfer force.
Little Andy, for instance, if he wasn’t fighting to keep his back arched, he would only be able to deadlift 500 instead of 1k.
its like keeping your upper back tight when you squat. you don’t have to. you can squat a decent amount without a tight upper back. but you can’t squat real heavy unless you work to keep the upper back tight.
rambling.
sorry[/quote]
Thats actually the best explaination I’ve ever heard. Now if I could figure out exactly how its supposed to feel I’d be gold.
I don’t think she is fat. However, I’ll bet SHE thinks so because she is carrying more curves than media images of female perfection.
It appears that some men have a wide appreciation for various female body types, and some men have very narrow criteria for attractiveness. That is probably what is going on here.
[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
I don’t think she is fat. However, I’ll bet SHE thinks so because she is carrying more curves than media images of female perfection.
It appears that some men have a wide appreciation for various female body types, and some men have very narrow criteria for attractiveness. That is probably what is going on here.[/quote]
I think they need their test levels checked.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
[quote]kimbakimba wrote:
I don’t think she is fat. However, I’ll bet SHE thinks so because she is carrying more curves than media images of female perfection.
It appears that some men have a wide appreciation for various female body types, and some men have very narrow criteria for attractiveness. That is probably what is going on here.[/quote]
I think they need their test levels checked.[/quote]
If she’s fat then I sure like fat girls.
^^^^
Yep, me too…
Wave 2-Cycle 2-Week 2-Day 3
bench
3x170
3x200
4x225
5x10x155
NG DB Press
8x75
8x80
8x85
4x90
4x95
High Incline DB Press
12x45
12x50
8x55
Felt weak today but managed to get thigns done. Luckily for you guys no video today.
[quote]JoeGood wrote:
So I made the mistake of going into SAMA and reading that shit.
There are some people who think this girl is fat. Really… seriously?
What the hell is wrong with people. She’s a little young, but fat? I think of a lot of things when I see that picture but fat isn’t one of them.[/quote]
She’s a bit ‘curvier’ than I would like to be but we all have our things we prefer and, as it happens, women is not one of mine. However, for her age, she looks to be carrying too much fat. I think if she turned sideways, she’d have a bit of a belly. She’s a very beautiful girl but I could see her having significant weight issues as she ages.
