I have a dream...

Karma – I didn’t read all of your last post, but I just wanted to address something that came up there that is a little off base.

Here’s the thought you expressed: “In God’s eyes (if we are going there) every sexual thought outside the sanctity of marriage is a sin. And there are no ‘big’ sins and no ‘little’ sins - they all carry the same reward.”

Actually, it’s not the thought that is the sin. That is part of satan’s deception. Satan can put the thought in your mind, and then try to convict you of having that thought. It is how one deals with that thought that makes the sin. Do you meditate on that thought? Do you follow through? It’s totally natural to have sexual thoughts (this is called temptation). It’s what is done with the thought that counts.

Don’t want to turn this into a theological discussion, just felt a need to pipe in on that one.

Karma All I ahve to say regarding you previous post is that you come from a place I can’t understand and maybe that shitdisturber(this is a weird site “shitdisturber”)can’t understand either.To me dropping out of highschool would never even cross my mind.You were probally raised in a bad environment and have experianced things that i will never have to go through,and thus have views on the world that are totally different from mine,that refelct where you came from.

Yes, you are correct that it is up to us to choose to act or not to act and that Satan can place thoughts in our minds/hearts and then attempt to convict us on them. It was the context from Matthew 5:28 that I drew from on that portion of my post, “…but I say to you that everyone who looks at a woman with lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.” Depending on a person’s particular denomination, this may be taught as having an evil thought is to have sinned. I, also, don’t really feel compelled to dicker about the finer points of theology but just thought I’d throw this out as well.

Terminator, I do come from a place that not many people have/should experience. Putting it mildly, it sucked. So yes, you and I (and many others) will absolutely have different views on a great many things. This is the primary reason I volunteer as a Youth Crisis Counselor - other kids are in, or are near, a similar situation and they need guidance from someone who’s been there and done that. While I’ve made some damn huge mistakes in life, I’ve also been able to recover the ball in the endzone and make the touchdown. I am not about to fucking apologize for or hide that fact. I am who I am and I am damn proud of it. Neither ShitDisturber nor anyone else on this planet can make the slightest bit of difference in that, and there is no need though to be downright meanspirited about a variance in viewpiont.

I’ve been reading ~karma~'s posts, and I have to admit that I don’t like the dog and pony show. It seems to me that a lot of what she has been wrtiting is for the shock value and the attention from the males on this site. They drool and she performs some more. BUT, where else but in an internet forum can you truly be yourself - or be the person you want to be? ~karma~ if you are happy and comfortable with yourself then post all you want. Sometimes I skip your posts and threads sometimes I don’t, that’s my choice.

Shitdisturber, if you don't like what she has to say SKIP THE POST. You and your high and mighty wife can go have 'great sex' instead of dirtying your minds with ~karma~'s evil words.

Every woman in the world who has not conformed to the 'virgin bride' routine is labeled a slut. Women should guard their purity and men should sow their wild oats. Please tell me that's not a double standard, since who the hell are men supposed to get their experience from?? So men create the 'sluts' and then act holier-than-thou.

I don’t think men or women should be sluts,I don’t think thatb the virgin bride is realistic either.I beleive moderation is the key,you should try and get invovlved in relationships with people.There are many stds out there,and like many other things if you sleep around alot it can become a way of life.

Karma I apoligize if I was mean spirited in my prevoius post.I admit I was being somewhat bias,becuase of my experainces.When you expalined your self destructing adolesence you sound like many people i knew know who wnet to my highschool(I’m 18 and going to college now)who made highschool an unpleasent experaince becuase of their self destructivenss,when you go to school in a palce where alot of people carry out self destructive behaviors in their lifes it doesn’t make for a pleasnet atmosphere.I went to highschool and many poeple there drank,took drugs,or engaged in promiscous sex and thought thye knew alot but in fact knew very little,Many of these people were huge assholes too,I have learned from my experiances in dealing wiht people and have learned not to let assholes bother me,I’m more self relaint now.I shouldn’t have being mean spirited towards you know that i think more about your actually a really good person to have risen above your circumstnaces to become a good person,many people who have a bad start in life never get over it.

Terminator, thank you. That was sweet, but I think you misunderstood my comment on being mean-spirited. I did not intend that for you, but for ShitDisturber. You and I have had differences of opinion but I’ve never thought it degraded into just plain meanness.

I hear you loud and clear on the high school issues. There are a great many things I wish I’d not experienced during those years but, in all honesty, those experiences are part of who I am and I’m rather pleased with how I turned out. :wink:

"There are a great many things I
wish I’d not experienced during those years but, in all honesty, those experiences are
part of who I am and I’m rather pleased with how I turned out. :wink: " HEAR HEAR! I had an ex who used to take great joy in calling me a whore. I explained to him many times that if he likes the end result then he has to accept the means of getting to it. Yeah, I had ‘a bit’ of experience before he and I met, and since he sure enjoyed that knowledge I told him he had to deal with it. He never quite understood that. It’s great to hear you have my same philosophy.

If you were to look at all the threads in the off topic area(the only place you post) you’ll see that I’ve only responded to one of the sex threads. I don’t read them all but you seem to enjoy getting the boys aroused. Cock tease I guess. You obviously have some issues with regard to your ex, good luck with that. If any of the guys on here were to talk about their latest aquisition they would be flamed big time. Typical double standard. I guess some of them are too busy wacking off to your Jerry Springer like posts to care. I don’t want to get started on God as I am an athiest. You probably think I’m a prude but I’m far from that. I’m one of the quiet ones when it comes to talking about my sexual experiences. While I applaud the fact you are sexually liberated as all people should be, I’m just a little bored with reading about it. I know no-one forces me to read your posts, I just thought you should know that perception can become reality. Good Luck.

Yeah I guess we are high and mighty because we don’t discuss our sex life with strangers. We are too of the most down to earth people you could ever me but I guess you know all there is to know about me from one post in this lame thread. Our sex life is far from tame, unlike karmas’. That’s all I’ll say about that. Also notice this site is called tetosterone and while this is the off-topic area, karmas’ posts seem to revolve around sex. Does she even train? I usually don’t read her attention seeking posts, I just thought I’d let her know this is getting really old, fast. I know this is hard to believe, but there is more to life than sex. BTW why don’t you tell me who you are instead of just labelling yourself observer. This is already anonymous to start with. Lame, really lame.

Come on my post was funny. Wasn’t it? Bastards not laughing at prize winning humour such as mine. Just kidding. :slight_smile:

hey ~karma~ i just have to say one thing…i APLOUD YOU on what you have gone through and where you are now. that takes a lot of guts. and for me i know a lot of friends mainly girls that have gone thrugh that shit and because of it. it has fucked up there life. one other thing i have to say to you ~karma~ is when you are in a argument with someone you realy back your SHIT UP! LOL GOOD JOB

MJP: Holy resurrected threads, Batman! How odd to see this again and reread it. Looks like someone knows how to use the “search” feature.

And thank you. Your comment was much appreciated.

LOL… until I read the very last post I hadn’t even noticed the dates. Well Karma, I know how it feels to be flamed by the self-appointed intelligencia in this forum. Don’t take it too hard… if they get riled up reading your posts then they probably consider it great sex to do it in missionary position through a hole in the blanket.

Keep 'em coming!

Although, missionary on a swiss ball…???

Although it probably wouldn’t translate to “Real” sex at all.

“The pope is becoming a missionary, you will say. Yes, the pope is becoming a missionary, which means a witness, a shepherd, an apostle on the move”

~ Pope Paul VI

Holy shit, now this is an old post!

HA!

Do not insult the blanket!!

Didn’t this start out as a friend kicking another friend out for talking in her sleep? Oh yeah, I think it did. Oh by the way, Karma does work out, and she is damn proud of her transformation. Do a search and you can see pictures and details of how everything went down.

Shithead, I mean Shitdisturber, talking with a female about sex is a GOOD THING!! All females I know get all red-faced and shy when it comes to talking about this. I know every guy would love to learn a little secret here and there? Even if your GREAT sex life is GREAT, as you say, it can always be better. My sex life is awesome, but I can always use tips and learn tricks from someone who is open and willing to talk about them.

You’re tombstone will read “Here lies an Atheist. All dressed up with no place to go”

Laughing my ASS off!!!