I have a dream...

Loss? Who wants to take a loss? I want it all. :wink:


I’m not good with this whole “compromising one attribute for another” thing. If I had to give up one of my other fine qualities for a herculean cock, well, I probably wouldn’t do it. But all things being equal, I’d rather have the certificate from Guinness, thanks.

Karma the post where you talked about how their is a downside when dealing with other people when you are “too smart”,“too rich"and “To goodlooking” is absolutely false.You said that the guys you dated were too smart had no sense of humour?thats crazy there are lots of very smart people who have a good sense of humour. Albert Einstein supposedly had a great sense of humour.Not all really goodlooking people are obsessed with their looks,and not all people who have lots of money have no time on their hands.A person who has a high paying, high pressure job might have alot of work that consumes their time, where they can’t spend alot of time with you,compared to someone who does not have the same responsibilty,but if you like each other you find time to enjoy each others company ,but there are lots of ways to obtain lots of money and they don’t all involve working around the clock.You sound like your problem with men that are"too rich”“too goodlooking” and “too smart” is because you are are “too insecure”.

WOAH, there! First of all, I’ve never gotten the impression that karma is insecure in the least. Secondly, her point was that, for those guys, it wasn’t specifically that one feature was too “good,” but rather that the men allowed that feature to completely rule their lives. In such a case, their “assets” were detrimental, because they focused solely on them. Read her post carefully, and I think that you’ll see that she said pretty much that, and wasn’t very ambiguous about it, either.

Gotta defend ~karma~ here a little bit. She definitely had a point. Terminator is right that there do exist some people with positive traits that deal with them well, but for the most part, the stereotype fits. And she’s quite open with any insecurities she has - I don’t think that’s the problem here. She seems much less insecure about herself than most women, and I applaud her for the frankness she uses on this board (with a bunch of testosterone-drenched men soaking up every word). And about the whole size issue, all studies I’ve seen seem to depict women as desiring the “average” man as opposed to the larger man, and much more than the smaller man. I’ve also heard quite a few complaints from guys and their girlfriends about difficulties with being too large (I’m sorry, but if I can’t sink it all the way in, it’s just NOT the same). I must admit, that to hear a girl say you’re hurting her is a bit of a turn on along with an ego boost, but it really doesn’t get you anywhere in the end. I have seen absolutely gorgeous women close to 6ft tall (height really isn’t an issue when it comes to all of that) be completely satisfied by a guy hung like my pinky. It’s about a lot more than size, and with size, it’s more about fit than anything. And it’s funny, your better hung guys are quite often the small wrestler type. (Not all the time, though).

Holding somehting against someone for saying shit in their sleep is almost as fucked up as getting a DUI for blowing a .10 when you are 1 mile from ur house. Joking aside a person has NO control over what is said during sleep or what is dreamed. I once dreamed that I was crushed under an avalanche of banannas (millions of them)…they just kept coming, i didn’t know what to do and i swore in the dream i thought it was real.

Dawg, friends don’t let friends Drink and Post. Come on. Hand me the keyboard.

nephorm I still disagree wiht Karma’s statement.My point,in my post was that just because someone is very handsome or very rich or very intelligent or has any other highly developed positive trait,does not mean that their positive trait was developed or interfers at the expense of other traits.
karma states"The thing is is that when someone is “too” something, it’s usually because of a lack elsewhere. " and you expalin that karma’s point is "Secondly, her point was that, for those guys, it wasn’t specifically that one feature was too “good,” but rather that the men allowed that feature to completely rule their lives."The thing is I complelty disagree with this premise.I beleive that someone can have and many people have one incredibly positive trait and are very well rounded peolple and don’t let that one highly developed positive trait make up for a lack of proficiency of their other traits.I personally try to be as smart as I can be and try to be in the best physical shape I can be in,I also used to have really bad social skills,but I worked at improving them and know although I am not the life of the party I am well adept socially,and I continue to try and improve my social skills.I do not think people try to be really good at one thing to neccesarly compensate for a lack of competence of other traits but that some people aim to relize their full potentail as human beings.I apoligize if my previous post’s message wasn’t as clear as it should have been.

Terminator: Um, please take a second and reread my post. I plainly stated that I was drawing on my EXPERIENCE of dating men. Have you had MY experiences? Doubtful, so how is it you would know if the men I dated had any sense of humor or not? Yes, I agree that not all men with a huge bank roll have no time to spend with partners - it was just the ones I dated. Yes, I agree that not all insanely attractive men are so into their looks that all else fails to register - it was just the ones I dated. I don’t believe anywhere, in any fashion, did I make such grand and sweeping statements as you accuse me of.

Nephorm: THANK YOU!! I am glad you got my point. It was the focus on and development of one asset that undoubtedly caused the others to fail. My experience (catch that, Terminator? MY EXPERIENCE, not a universal statement) was of the unbalance created by this focus and that in this sense, “too” much of a good thing is indeed “too” much.

Naturally, a hot, well built, well groomed, intelligent, articulate, financially stable, humorous, spontanious and emotionally mature and available man is what most chicks are looking for, I just didn’t find it in any of the unbalanced men I’d dated.

We seem to be having a communication breakdown. Let me rephrase. My interpretation of karma’s post is that when a man is “too” whatever, the reason is because of an imbalance. For example, let’s take Joe and Bill. Joe and Bill are both extremely handsome guys. If you rated them on a scale of 1-10, they’d both be 20s. Let’s even say they’re identical twins. Now, Joe spends two hours a day grooming his hair, and frequently gazes into any available shiny surface, even when in a conversation. Bill, on the other hand, spends only a reasonable amount of time on his appearance, and gives other people his full attention. Joe is “too handsome,” because his looks are grossly out of proportion with his personality. Bill, on the other hand, is not “too handsome,” because he is properly balanced. I do not believe that karma was saying that it is impossible to be gifted in all sorts of areas, but rather that when it becomes a problem, it is because there is an imbalance. 'k?

He is obviously a moron…If you don’t want to know, you don’t ask. I only needed to know the basic facts, “you fucked before and you are clean of diseases as far as you know.” That’s all I care about. No man can handle the truth because his member is King. The fact is pal, you ain’t the best she ever had! He’s an idiot for asking. She should probably move on, and go find “Jay”.

Karma I guess are disagreement lies in semantics,I got the impression from reading your comments that you thought that in general that most people who are “too x” focus and develop that trait to the exclusion of others,I did not get the impression that you acknowledged that your opinion was not neccesaeraly true, but was true in your limited experiances.I reread your previous post like you asked and after rereading it again a couple of times I still did not get the impression that you acknowledged that your opinion was not neccesaeraly true, but was true in your limited experiances.Thankyou your new post has cleared up things for me and I now understand that your point was that your opinion was not neccesaeraly true, but was true in your limited experiances.I guess we have nothing to disagree about.With both agree that your opionion was not necceserly true but is true if you took into account only your experiances and not anyone elses experiances or the real truth of the matter.

nephorm that makes sense,I just don’t think that was karma’s point karma says in one of her posts that"Yes, I agree that not all men with a huge bank roll have no time to spend with partners - it was just the ones I dated. Yes, I agree that not all insanely attractive men are so into their looks that all else fails to register - it was just the ones I dated."From that passage it sounds like when she says"too handsome"she means any guy who is insanley attractive and the same thing with “too rich”

Actually, ~karma’s~ expereinces aren’t too far from the norm. Often those that are “too x” rely on their x attribute. As a guy, when looking for a girl to date, I would typically avoid any girl that was “too hot”. (To be fair, they often avoided me, but I got lucky occasionally). This is because someone born that beautiful doesn’t have to worry about being nice to people, especially guys, or developing admirable character traits. Of course people who are both very attractive and pleasant exist, but when out scoping out a crowd, you gotta go with the numbers. The same thing has been mentioned on this board and in T-mag when it comes to athleticism. Often very gifted athletes don’t know jack about training, whereas those of us that have toiled through the years to barely approach their level of accomplishment know more about what it takes to get the job done. Same thing with intellect as well. People often breeze through high school and college without ever having to study, but then hit grad school and realize they don’t have the skills to get the job done. Same thing with rich kids and many other obvious examples. This is not to say that you can’t have it all, just that it’s harder to develop a work ethic about something (getting people to like you, learning, making money) when you have never had to work at it in the first place. But Terminator, don’t worry about this, because you’re the one that doesn’t have time for the women right now and are too mentally sharp to waste your time on them anyway. Just kidding with ya.

Jared good points “If you can believe it, the mind can achieve it.”

  • Ronnie Lott

sounds like a good opportunity for some hot lesbian action…

I know it’s probably every male’s fantasy, but no, chickie’s not into chicks. She’s had her youthful experimental phase and she digs dick instead.

Had her youthfull experimental phase???WOW this is way over my head I’m 18 and still a virgin

Nkeago: Hey hand am I the biggest you’ve ever had?


Hand: For the last time yes!!! Dumbass.

Nkeago: Am I the best too?

Hand: Yes…wait a minute I’m the one doing all the work asswipe.

Braahahahahahah. :slight_smile:

Oh my FUCK, enough already. In MY experience the ones that brag about their ability(sexual or otherwise) are all talk. I do know one woman that talks like you and she would and has fucked almost anything on two legs(excluding me). I wouldn’t go near her for my own safety. My wife read some of your posts and she said she thinks you are a,a, what was it, oh yeah, slut. Lets recap, you; love to suck dick, take it up the ass, have a kid(great more single parents), refer to your lover as “latest aquisition”, flirt with strangers(JC#10 ,get a fucking room) and tell them all this stuff. My wife would never consider this and why? you ask. Because she has something you will never have, CLASS!! Yeah we do have GREAT sex we just don’t tell everyone all the fucking details.

Enough already? Eh, come again? If you’ve had enough then why do you read my posts and bother responding? Something must trigger in you to have such a passionate reaction to me - if it was simply disgust/disinterest then you’d not be compelled to bother with responding but simply note the author and skip merrily on by.

So your experiences of people that “brag” about an ability is that they are all talk - how does this apply to me? Have I bragged about anything - or have I simply stated what it is I enjoy? You say you know one woman that talks like I do. Of course, that automatically means I behave the way she does. I understand, this is like that ‘new math’ thing they teach where 2 + 2 = 5. Gotcha. Even if I behave the way you imply, what’s that got to do with you? Who was it that died and bestowed the Crown of Heaven upon your mortal brow that you have any right whatsoever to indict me for acts you have no knowledge of but have seen fit to defame me for?

So your wife is of the opinion that I am a slut. What of it? What is a slut but every male and female out there that enjoys sex? Who is ordained the right to draw the line on how many sexual partners/acts/enjoyments a person may experience before they are branded a slut? Is it you - is it the Pope - is it God? In God’s eyes (if we are going there) every sexual thought outside the sanctity of marriage is a sin. And there are no ‘big’ sins and no ‘little’ sins - they all carry the same reward. How sinless are you and your precious wife?

In your recap, you address the fact that not only am I, in your wife’s sterling opinion, a slut but I am a single mother. Is this another issue for you? It’s not bad enough that here’s a girl who is in touch with her sexuality and refuses to conform to some Puritanical, hypocritical, patriarchal, socialized moral system BUT she’s a damn single mother too! Sigh And you have no fucking clue what you are talking about (re: my marriage). I suppose you will blame me for marrying the ‘wrong’ person and that at the age of 21, I ‘should’ have known better. I supposed you will blame me for becoming pregnant. I suppose you will blame me for the fact that my husband verbally, emotionally and physically abused me. I suppose that you think it is perfectly ok to sic a 170lb Rottweiler on a pregnant woman. I suppose you will blame me for not wanting my son to grow up thinking that his mother cowering in a corner with bruised and bloodied face is a normal, good and emulatable thing. I suppose you’ll decry the fact that I was a high school drop-out, had no degree of higher education, had never soley supported myself, had no career or vocation and yet I insisted that I raise my son to a better life than I had. I suppose you’ll degrade me for never utilizing Public Assistance in any way. I suppose you’ll insult me for managing to live on, raise a child on, and send him to a private pre-school on 17 thousand dollars a year (the first year I left my ex). I suppose you’ll discount the fact that now, in the fourth year of being my own woman, I NET over 60 thousand as a Systems Analyst (self-taught, no less - oh, but wait, that’s bragging and all braggerts are nothing but talk. wanna see my fucking tax returns?). Yeah, all the world needs are more women like me. Damn single mothers. How fucking useless are they anyway, just a huge drain on society.

You also mention the affectionate term “acquisition” that I place on my lover. What’s your problem here? It’s not as if he’s not told me I “own” him or anything. It’s not as if he has any problem whatsoever with being my “acquisition” - since that’s what I fucking do for a living, it’s more a pet name of endearment than a bee-keeper calling his wife “honey”. But you have set yourself up as my prosecutor, judge and jury for doing so.

You have issues with my flirting with strangers and “telling them all this”. So, because I am not ashamed, insecure, or chock full of repression but am instead very open with my life - I deserve nothing but your derision because afterall, your precious wife’s cloistered inhibitions would prevent her from ever being as open and honest about herself as I am. You shame me for this? And then you go and call this desire for privacy “class”. Hhhmm, would a man or woman of true class attack someone as you have done here? No. They would have instead either ignored the base dross which they’d consider my posts or they’d take a charitable attitude toward me and attempt to ‘reform’ me. And you have done neither. How can you even begin to discuss that of which you have no personal knowledge?

In parting, I AM very glad you and your wife have GREAT sex. I wish everyone to experience that. Apparently, you do not concur since it is my very enjoyment of sex and openness about it that causes you such distress. How I wish you had better things to occupy yourself with than to comment on my sex life, since it concerns you so very little.