Guys get off this guy, he doesn’t want to be HYOOOOGE. The funny thing is, his goals are pretty darned impressive. Infact I bet I am not to far off when I say that 90%+ of those on this site will never see the light of day of 220 and 6%bf.
That being said, he was looking for some people on here who’s only goal isn’t “mass mass mass”.
I want to be athletic (college lacrosse) and I want to look good naked. That’s pretty much it.
[quote]plutusplutus wrote:
Guys get off this guy, he doesn’t want to be HYOOOOGE. The funny thing is, his goals are pretty darned impressive. Infact I bet I am not to far off when I say that 90%+ of those on this site will never see the light of day of 220 and 6%bf.
That being said, he was looking for some people on here who’s only goal isn’t “mass mass mass”.
I want to be athletic (college lacrosse) and I want to look good naked. That’s pretty much it. [/quote]
People are trying to get the point across to him that to get to 220 at 6 percent you pack on the mass to your frame in the fastest way possible, then you reduce your body fat to get to 6 points. Worrying about getting too big is silly, because nobody gets too big. If you find a way to get big so fast you have to pay close attention or you’ll pass your limit then congrats you’re going to be a rich son of a bitch. Otherwise, worrying about putting on mass too quickly is just going to slow his gains where he joins the ranks of those who don’t see 220 pounds.
Fair enough friend, I was just saying in terms of his end result he seemed to be saying that it wasn’t “well lets keep on adding to this frame!” he has a stop point, a level that if he ever reaches, he will be satiated.
I TOTALLY understand the reality of having to overshoot a bit beyond 220 in order to account for the eventual cut needed to reach 6%bf.
This isn’t to you per se, but the whole thread:
You all realize that you can gain mass and lower bf% AT THE SAME TIME…right? BF% is simply a measure of your body fat held in direct correlation to your total body weight. As you add muscle mass… your total body weight is increasing but (if done with discipline) body fat is not (or increasing at a lower rate than muscle mass). This would generate a lower bf%…whilst muscle mass is increasing!
No need to bulk to 260 so you can cut down to 220. Eat BIG…eat CLEAN…lift HARD…sleep WELL. The end.
[quote]will to power wrote:
<<< People are trying to get the point across to him that to get to 220 at 6 percent you pack on the mass to your frame in the fastest way possible, then you reduce your body fat to get to 6 points. Worrying about getting too big is silly, because nobody gets too big. If you find a way to get big so fast you have to pay close attention or you’ll pass your limit then congrats you’re going to be a rich son of a bitch. Otherwise, worrying about putting on mass too quickly is just going to slow his gains where he joins the ranks of those who don’t see 220 pounds. [/quote]
He gets it.
This has been going on since my first day here. I used to joke about guys standing on a stool with a club trying to hold off all that militant muscle that keeps trying to attach itself to their bodies. As if they would accidentally wake up looking like Thor one day wondering where it all went wrong.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
will to power wrote:
<<< People are trying to get the point across to him that to get to 220 at 6 percent you pack on the mass to your frame in the fastest way possible, then you reduce your body fat to get to 6 points. Worrying about getting too big is silly, because nobody gets too big. If you find a way to get big so fast you have to pay close attention or you’ll pass your limit then congrats you’re going to be a rich son of a bitch. Otherwise, worrying about putting on mass too quickly is just going to slow his gains where he joins the ranks of those who don’t see 220 pounds.
He gets it.
This has been going on since my first day here. I used to joke about guys standing on a stool with a club trying to hold off all that militant muscle that keeps trying to attach itself to their bodies. As if they would accidentally wake up looking like Thor one day wondering where it all went wrong.[/quote]
hahaha. God I wish I had that problem.
to everyone saying 220lbs @ 6-8% is impressive you are all glossing over one thing let me point it out.
6’3 6’3 6’3 6’3
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To the OP I think your right, you would look just plain silly at 222lbs
[quote]Whey Man wrote:
I’m with you. I’m not going for that huge, bulky look. But like someone here already mentioned,
I think that’s already the goal of most T-Nation members.
Muscular, trim, and athletic. That’s where it’s at.[/quote]
Finally found the post I’ve been looking for. Welcome to my world. I’m a fifty year old male, 6’ 168 lbs body fat 8.7% and dropping. I have no intention of passing 180 lbs. I’ve been working out for 29 years and never over 180 lbs. My workouts are on, the over fifty lifter, “need for speed”. You want ripped, trim and athletic well I have a workout for you. P90X, this workout is NOT!!! for beginners, you will feel the burn, the intensity and the results. You will not get huge but you will turn heads. You can also check my post, same site, “Muscle Confusion”. Let me know what you think. Food for thought.
As long as it didn’t start to get in the way of athleticism, I’d love to be 240+ at my 5’8". It won’t happen, but I’d like it if it did.
OP, if it makes you feel better, I am 6’1" and I want to be 190, if not 190, then 205.
[quote]Davenegger wrote:
Well you see thats just it, speaking for myself and myself only, I hate that macho crap! I never said that its easy to get big, I’m not that stupid, I know how difficult it is and have the utmost respect for someone who can achieve a massive physique…if thats what they want, that however isn’t what I want, that don’t mean I’m saying its easy to put on muscle, shit, whats wrong with wanting to get to a weight that could be short of the maximum your body allows it to go and maintaining?[/quote]
What’s macho about about not sounding like a fucking woman? If you think what I said is macho talk, you need to get fitted for a prom dress ASAP.
As for the rest of you post - why did you start a thread in the bodybuilding section about not wanting to be too big?
Try the MWA forum. You will find more of an audience there.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I fell through the door of a gym once and got too fucking huge… it sucked… I had to wait like six months to get my lean athletic body back, cause you know that’s where it’s at…
I fucking hate when that happens.
Bunch of goddamn nancies… go to Crossfit.
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I hate your guido-acting, Eli Manning loving guts.
But you speak more truth about these emo-fucking six-pack wanting little fuckwads than you will ever know.
I’m coming to Jersey this summer, and if you have a nut in you, you’ll have a drink - or 30 - with me.
The Giants suck ass.
On my first glance at rainjack’s above post, I thought he was saying he was going to New Jersey this summer to nut in FightingIrish. My eyes still feel unclean.
Well congrats to those of you who will be satisfied. Because, I personally, realize more and more as I lift I can ONLY get happier, I’ll never be “satisfied” it a continual gratification.
[quote]HunterKiller wrote:
OP, if it makes you feel better, I am 6’1" and I want to be 190, if not 190, then 205. [/quote]
Is your goal to fit into a size medium shirt from the gap as well?
[quote]rainjack wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I fell through the door of a gym once and got too fucking huge… it sucked… I had to wait like six months to get my lean athletic body back, cause you know that’s where it’s at…
I fucking hate when that happens.
Bunch of goddamn nancies… go to Crossfit.
I hate your guido-acting, Eli Manning loving guts.
But you speak more truth about these emo-fucking six-pack wanting little fuckwads than you will ever know.
I’m coming to Jersey this summer, and if you have a nut in you, you’ll have a drink - or 30 - with me.
The Giants suck ass. [/quote]
Hahahhahahaahh oh man, that’s going to kick ass. You gotta let me know when you’re comin’ up, we’ll get fuckin plowed.
And if Big Blue wins the Super Bowl, I’ll even have a Super Bowl Champions hat waiting for you… I don’t know if they’ll be selling them in Texas, and I know you’re gonna want one.
I see nooooo point at all for the start of this thread…honestly no one gives a fuck whether you want to be hyoooge or just big…
[quote]Davenegger wrote:
I can hear it already, the groans and the moans from many members, but I ain’t gonna lie! The majority of the peoples goals on this site is quite simple…get as big and as strong as possible and gain as little fat as possible in doing so, right?
I’m currently 85kg (about 188 - 190lb’s) and am 6 foot 3, my goal is what it is, get to 220lb’s or 100kg with a body fat of 6 - 8% percent and I’ll have felt I’ve accomplished or reached my pinnacle in training, a lot of people will say that at that height, a bit more patience and a little more determination I could reach far greater goals than that but I personally and quite simply dont want to be that big, I’m not negative or arrogant about it I just don’t want to be huge!
I’m a great believer in that you can also look out of proportion when your too big.
Just thought I’d see if theres anyone else out there with the same ethos or goals and in the same mind frame about getting as big as possible.[/quote]
i personally don’t have goals to get huge either, my goals are more modest,to gain 1- 2 lbs of muscle a month through the winter and then lean down to single figure bodyfat levels through the summer. this generaly works out of a mass gain of 12lbs or so between november and febuary and then a gradual cut down 6-8lbs, as slow as possible to minimise strength loss through the spring. have pretty well managed these short term goals every year for the last 4 years and it keeps me motivated to train. i know this may seem modest to the bodybuilders out there but
to the op your goals are admiral and achievable, i,m sure you will get there especially if you take some of the advise on this great forum. unfortunately you posted the thread in the wrong section really. the bodybuilding section is really just about getting as big as possible so don’t be surprised if you get flamed.
having said that it is the best place to get opinion on how to achieve your goals outside of the articles/discussions
anyone who says they don’t want to get as big as possible sounds to me like ‘I’m a big pussy who doesn’t want to work hard, so I’ll just curl these pink dumbbells and do some sit ups.’
Personally, my goals do not include getting my body fat level down to 6%; 9 or 10% is just fine since I’m not a competitve bodybuilder. And my genetics won’t allow me to be monstrous in size. But I do want to be as STRONG as I can be! When I do get there I will want to be even stronger then. If I get SWOLE while getting stronger -great! I honestly can’t picture myself ever saying “Damn, I’m just too buff now. I wish I was SMALLER.”
[quote]itsthetimman wrote:
HunterKiller wrote:
OP, if it makes you feel better, I am 6’1" and I want to be 190, if not 190, then 205.
Is your goal to fit into a size medium shirt from the gap as well?[/quote]
I don’t shop at the gap…