Ranitidine? What’s that got to do with this post I’m lost…
Omezorpole works better. I had serious heart burn and acidic issues before TRT … take it on an empty stomach 30 mins before food. Otherwise it won’t work.
update:
first of all, hello guys and thanks for your time!
so i went to the psyquiatrist… wow. so it took like 15 minutes. I explained my issues and then he said “ok we need to start low with this medicine (dont remember) everyday to deal with ocd” i asked” is it an ssri?” “he said yes” then i asked “but would that impact my T and worsen my depression and ocd?” he literally said yes. what? then he explained that first i need to ask if my endo accepts ssri as treatment and if so he will treat me. i was like… why would someone prescribed me with ssri knowing it will makes things worst? bleh… i only have the endo appointment next week ;/ hope everything cleara up and she doesn’t think my depression is not due to testosterone and knows about ssri.
i will reply to your comment asap.
In regards to MJ, it states that it is estrogen like or binds to the receptor. Wouldn’t binding to the receptor cause it to block the e2?
I never bought into anything saying that MJ reduces test, or increases e2.
I know the latter is simply not true.
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Seems he thinking the medication will mitigate the ocd symptoms but also admits that it may worsen your hormonal situation.
However, you stated earlier that a psychologist told you that you should rule other malfunctioning systems first before sorting out your psychiatric symptoms. The DSM5 does advise ruling out biological factors that may be influencing mental health before treating someone. This is why I’m glad to hear you have an endo appointment coming up. Hopefully she’s competent and can guide you in a beneficial direction.
OCD was found to be seperate from anxiety disorder? uhm the workbook that im suppost to read it says “workbook for anxiety” hehe i looked around and did not find any page saying anything about ocd, but im guessing its somewhat related anyways. i believe in mindfullness medication. have you read “The Power of Now” by Eckhart Tolle? good book.
YES! DSM5 does advise ruling out biological factors first. She told me this. you know whats interesting. My minor is in Psychology and I was studying my master in I/O (Industrial and Organizational) Psychology, but I had to stop because of 2 things, I truly don’t know if this is what I like (i don’t know what to truly study and need guidance with that too. can’t find a good guidance with this :((( ) and because, well… right now I can’t because I’m dealing with health issues. I need to admit that i have yet read DSM5 because my psychology is minor and I never took a class that made us read it. Atleast my therapist knows about it.
It was found to be separate, yes. They do share some similarities though and your workbook based on anxiety will still give you tools to deal with some aspects of the OCD. Anxiety treatment involves a lot of CBT, so does OCD, definitely continue the mindfulness book.
Yes I have, I really liked it as well.
You’re still young man, don’t give into societal pressure to have everything figured out by 22! I’m 31 and just barely figuring out what I think I want to do. I think it’s OCD research and treatment for me, but it wasn’t until I was diagnosed with OCD I figured it out haha.
It’s not really a requirement to have read it in its entirety (depending on what you’re doing). Most clinicians only reference it for certain diagnostic criteria.
thanks for posting. yeah i need to start reading the book. thing is, i want to get better and all but i get tired and everyday when i get home i get depressed and anxious because of the ocd i need to deal. atleast 1-2 pages per day is a good.
I really need to apply the power of now technique. i forget almost everything i do. i do not know if its short term memory because of low t or ocd. but even when washing my hands or doing something and end doing it i start all over again because I missed something or because i forgot i did not wash something.
ha! lol well i do like to help others but i do love nutrition and fitness. kinda addicted to this. i also love psychology stuff. i do not like to do investigations tho.
question guys,
so i saw my recent labs and found this…
white blood 4.09 range 4.30- 11.00
red blood count 4.13 range 4.60- 6.20
FERRITIN NG/ML 228.30 FROM 30.00-400.00
does this mean anemia?
lastly, could i possibly increase my t naturally from 180 (total) 220 (free) to 600-700? i do need to fix some stuff (underweight, sleep and reduce ocd).
If it could be done everyone would be doing it, you don’t recover from levels this low. Low T causes poor sleep, poor sleep cause low T, it’s a negative loop you can’t win. If you were in the 400 ranges, you chances would be better, but not guaranteed.
Sounds like your worried to start TRT. Looking at this thread you are not having a good quality of life and I hope you feel better soon.
If I had your symptoms I would do anything to find relief. With such low levels I had minor OCD and many mental issues from memory loss to anger to what you describe with ocd.
Interestingly enough and after reading your post, something came to mind. For the last couple of years I’ve been locking my front door, then forget if I locked it, wake up go lock it again… and sometimes again if I hadn’t already gotten into the bed. Amkngster other things like washing my hands. Not at your level but it was enough to call it ocd.
As of late (you made me realize this) I do not recall doing this or it bothering me… I just lock the door and don’t have to second guess myself. Or count my money or whatever I’m counting and not recount ten times double and triple checking…:
Anyways it ’s been weeks… your thread made me realize this and it looks like the memory thing was definitely playing tricks on me.
Good luck. Take the jump: you have everything to gain at your age friend. Everything…
It’s probably all of the above. OCD saps your energy, low-T rapes your memory and general cognition. I would walk into a room and immediately forget what I was there for every time. That or I would forget what I was saying to someone mid-sentence. I honestly thought I was developing dementia. TRT helped this a lot, I do still get symptoms but from what I hear I might have thyroid issues contributing to this as well.
I’ll let others on the board help you with the blood work. I’m not skilled in that area.
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yeah i guess so. the only things i truly tried is meditating, releasing stress, eating more fats and gaining weight and sleep. but sleep? even with trying hard to go to bed and sleep 8 i usually get 7 because my body wakes up naturally and fast. and on top of that i go to the bathroom once or twice. i dont remember any dreams in a long time too. tried supplements like vit d magnessium nothing.
dude this is so bad because i forget a lot of things and sometimes even call myself stupid (being too hard on myself) did you get strongly sentimental? like cry about the smallest things? anything people say hurts me. and always feel bad for anything, even the smallest things. but yeah tomorrow is endo appointment. im actually a bit anxious. i might have thyroid issues because i freaking feel cold all the time.
fT3 increases body temperatures and metabolism, so it makes sense if yours is low that you would feel cold all the time. Your body is unable to burn enough calories and process fat, so you gain weight.
hey man! yes im extremely worried because of two things, my age and because doctors ive visited knows little about it. i have went to several docs about my diagnose and still nothing. all i got is a bunch of labs and an mri with a tumor but even when i see the low lh fsh low t low igf1 low estradiol low t3 docs just say “uhm it seems you just have low t” and offer freaking injections once every two weeks wtf im so pissed and all this stuff is what makes me depressed. defy? i mean yeah but i like to talk with the doctor and see him/her face to face. right now i dont even eyaculate. how will i freeze my sperm if they dont offer hcg or clomid??!?! if i need trt ill do it. but i need damn good treatment. even if i havw to pah extra for it
i also havent seen many people young age going 10-20 years on trt strong. that also worries me. fertility worries me. i read you can stop and become fertile again or it can damage you forever.
i asked an endo “what if i get acne or gyno? what will you do since you dont track estrogen?” she said well you gotta deal with it…
also said i might not recover my t if i start trt. what if i know the real problem and want to drop t to fix it?
fuck
thanks mate! God bless you all
guys tomorrow is doc appointment. i have some questions in mind already but anything else i should ask? maybe from all you read?
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Don’t take this the wrong way, but you think too much. Your focused on what’s wrong. Your not focused on what will be. This is a journey… Don’t spend your life like this. Jsut do it man. You already knows half the docs out there don’t know shit: you might not ever find a doc that falls within your criteria. Just get started and get on the damn path… right now your sitting on the side stalking others as they walk towards the destination that you so badly want to reach. Stop fucking about …brother :!
Normal TSH in the presence of low fT3 is a sign you have hypothyroidism, I suggest you find a real doctor. TSH is a poor test to evaluate thyroid hormone, that’s why we have the ability to test thyroid hormones directly.
thanks for replying guys’
update:
so i dont know if this is either good or bad news
so the endo saw my labs and said that i have low test low lh low fsh igf1 and that im hypogonadal.
she also mentioned that i have high acth (46) and she wants to rule out cushing disease (lol)
things she did not cared but i asked why
shbg of 56
estradiol of 5
t3 .88
first for estradiol i asked why is it low and should i be worried? she said no and thats a normal number for men
t3 she said its fine and dont worry because she focus on tsh and t4
shbg… do they even know what that is?
anyways they offered me either test or gel. i asked protocols gels is everyday while test is (if i heard correctly) 200 once every two weeks.
yup! another doctor came in (because this is from the best hospital of endocrinology in my area) and said that yes, the protocol is 200 and have many patients in her clinic with that. also i asked how do you guys test labs and said one week after first injection and probably monitor it a little and then every 3-6 months or so.
i ask but i dont eyaculate how will i freeze my sperm? they had a meeting and decided to call an uro to give me clomid to save sperms. lol cant they give clomid now?
i also asked if i have green flag to take anti depressant and ocd ssri and said yes. they said theres no correlation between t and ssri and its fine to take.
all in all they just said i will go infertile and that i need trt for life. something i read is that once yoi come off trt you can actually regain fertility and if you do drop t you might come back to normal levels (that i had before hand) so why they say this? kinda scares me.
guys this is really the only option i have sadly
btw no hcg
i mean i know this is not the best option but i need to try something and if it doesnt work they will send me to a more professional place and if not then fuck ill go defy
You couldn’t have expected a sick care doctor to be knowledgeable in sex hormones, most doctors don’t know what normal testosterone and estrogen levels are. Truth is an E2 of 5 will cause osteoporosis. A sick care doctor will typically be useless for sex hormone therapies.
That fact that your doctor doesn’t know that these 200mg every 2 weeks doesn’t work tells me they don’t specialize in TRT, most endocrinologists specialize in thyroid and diabetes, not TRT.
What a double standard, your doctor is ignoring below range fT3 all because TSH is within range. T3 is the active hormone, TSH and fT4 are not, your doctor is focusing on the less important hormones and ignoring the most important.
Medical school taught doctors to focus on TSH and fT4, not fT3 and is just following her flawed training.
Defy Medical, problem solved.
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