[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
kribrg wrote:
SBT wrote:The fact that he feels the need to posture to all corners of the internet about supposedly “schooling” Bill Roberts says it all (or what little there is to say).
He wrote the Chocolate Milk article BECAUSE he indeed was schooling Bill but his posts weren’t passing moderation. So Bill was able to write what he wanted without reproach. So he basically kept misrepresenting Alan’s point and then attacking them as if Alan had made them (kinda like what he is doing now).
Let me tell you what you won’t see. Bill represent his ideas in a form where he can’t control the responses. That should “say it all”.
I read the article and the article isn’t about bashing T-Nation but rather refuting the claims made. Will someone defend the claims or is this gonna continue to be a us against them pissing match?
It would be interesting to discover who this “kribrg” is. It will be obvious to anyone who has read my posts over time that this person is a tool and/or a sock puppet.
Aragon’s posts in fact passed moderation. That is how he was able to have his discussion with me on the subject. And btw, how this individual – with only 4 posts – claims to be familiar with how a thread was moderated here nearly a year ago is indeed a thing to wonder at.
Aragon’s basic problem was that his arguing that the best post-training nutrition for a 12 year old is chocolate milk as the sole item recommended to be consumed (32 g protein per quart which is reasonable, but 95 g sugars, of which more than half is, typically, high fructose corn syrup and if not, is added sucrose) is foolish and incorrect. There is no way to “school” anyone about how something as far off as that is supposedly correct.
After I pointed the extreme amount of added sugar involved in his recommendation for the young lad, thus making his recommendation bad, he tried to pretend that a 12 year old, having had nothing before the training and nothing during, wouldn’t consume so much even if it were the only item offered, and supposedly I was being unreasonable in giving a quart as an example. But he provided no figure of his own and the kid’s own mother agreed that if that were the only food offered, a quart at least would be wanted in that situation. I think anyone who knows kids that age or remembers drinking milk at that age would agree.
(She took the team to a pizza place right after a game and her son ate, if I recall correctly, seven slices, so I think that would put the lie to a theory that all he’d want, if chocolate milk were available, just one glass or one pint or anything substantially less than a quart.)
Furthermore, Aragon also ignored that I in fact did not recommend Surge but rather gave a food-based solution, on account of having no evidence that a big glucose hit at any time is the ideal thing for a person so young (what with increased prevalence of Type II diabetes in the young) and that hockey training was not presenting the same situation as resistance training with regard to stimulating muscular growth, therefore what Surge is designed to do was not targeted for the situation at hand. The mom and I settled on some chicken and rice with some NON-sugar sweetened milk, as I recall.
However Aragon had a hard-on against Surge (or perhaps Biotest or T-mag in general, I don’t know) for some reason and continued to bring the argument back to Surge.
Doing a quick Google search now, I see that the individual is obsessed. It’s quite sad really. I didn’t even remember his name, frankly, and the matter of his idiocy never came to mind a single time between then and now. But apparently he lives with it night and day.[/quote]
This is not what I recall at all. “Everybody knows” that ;).