[quote]MytchBucanan wrote:
Lifting lighter for definition makes no sense to me. The definition should come from reducing fat AND adding muscle mass. This idea that lighter weights “carve away” the muscle and therefore shaping it is a bullshit marketing ploy that Joe Weider probably started.[/quote]
Joe Weider did quite a bit to centralize concepts in bodybuilding so I am not sure why some people feel the need to act like he is responsible for every turd of info in the resistance training industry. The only people talking about light weights and definition are infomercial jackasses and personal trainers trying to fool women into training with them.
There was a time around the early 80’s where some pro bodybuilders claimed they dropped the weight when dieting…but that was mostly because they had less energy from taking in less food. Others read this as if they were supposed to drop the weight because it CAUSED definition.
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exactly… if a woman wants to lose weight, get in shape, whatever you want to call it, she has to use heavy weights too! i mean obviously not shoulder pressing the 100’s for 6 but 25 lbs to a woman could be A LOT of weight…
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
← Just had to upgrade to a size 48 jacket
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It doesn’t count until you get it over 50.
I feel my lats sitting out more after I get through training them now…but that is because they are big enough to cause my arms to sit out a little when my arms are at my sides (trust me, even with that I don’t walk around like a human airplane). This is a problem most people will never have until they get their chest/back measurement over 52"…which is why most of the people with ILS are fooling themselves.
I used to think my shoulders didn’t pump up much…until they got big enough for people to notice how much bigger they look after I get done lifting.
That means if you are a little guy chasing a pump instead of focusing on whether your lifts and body weight are going up, you are focused on the wrong shit.
This should work for all BB’ers. I don’t even know why any of the pro’s would lift all that heavy weight and jeopardize their careers and health. Just Stupid if you ask me.
[quote]Loudog75 wrote:
This guy got Hyooge from light weight training.
This should work for all BB’ers. I don’t even know why any of the pro’s would lift all that heavy weight and jeopardize their careers and health. Just Stupid if you ask me.[/quote]
[quote]jameselliott wrote:
To fully benifit the shoulders in full hypothrophy, i find utilizing db’s and full range cable exercises to maintain a full stretch of motion to contract the shoulders , keeping it low weight is ok , as long as the form is correct and its direct contact and as functional as possible . Remember were talking about shoulders , keep it slow twitch to get the most deffinition ! :)[/quote]
I remember trying the light weight/high volume thing once before when I had previously always focused on lifting the heaviest weights possible. Wanna know what happened after 2 weeks? I SHRUNK and LOST STRENGTH… Learned my lesson REAL quick, lol. If you want bigger muscles lift progressively heavier weights. “Light weight” is just for warming up and yelling loudly before every set.
[quote]JonBlood wrote:
Okay guys, so back on topic! Is this delt triad worth rotating into my shoulder workouts or am I wasting my time?[/quote]
I am a big fan of Dr. Hyght, but I did not find the delt triad to do anything for me. I tried for it for a couple of months and I definitely felt the burn and got tired, but did not notice anything else from it and dropped it.[/quote]
It could be useful for someone who has a hard time recruiting/feeling their shoulders or to get a pump in the shoulders at the end of a workout. If you already have no problem recruiting/getting a pump in your delts, then it’s probably not going to do much for you. [/quote]
Sorry if its a stupid question, but is it important to always get a pump when working out? So far Im only getting pumps from working biceps. Im only focused on getting heavier weights up for every bodypart. I get almost zero pumps for back, chest, shoulders, triceps and legs during my workouts. Should I include on getting pumps?[/quote]
Well, I’m not much for “chasing” the pump, or gauging workout effectiveness by whether you get a pump or not. But if you’re bodybuilding, then you’ve got to be choosing exercises which overload the specific muscle that you’re trying to work. So, getting a pump in the muscle can be a good indicator of whether you are working the right muscle or whether other “assisting” muscles are instead doing most of the work. It’s kind of a helpful side effect of properly overloading the desired muscle rather than the primary goal.
In the end as long as the desired muscle is growing, then the pump is of secondary importance. It can just be a good cue as to whether you’re actually working the desired muscle or not.
[quote]JonBlood wrote:
Okay guys, so back on topic! Is this delt triad worth rotating into my shoulder workouts or am I wasting my time?[/quote]
I am a big fan of Dr. Hyght, but I did not find the delt triad to do anything for me. I tried for it for a couple of months and I definitely felt the burn and got tired, but did not notice anything else from it and dropped it.[/quote]
It could be useful for someone who has a hard time recruiting/feeling their shoulders or to get a pump in the shoulders at the end of a workout. If you already have no problem recruiting/getting a pump in your delts, then it’s probably not going to do much for you. [/quote]
Sorry if its a stupid question, but is it important to always get a pump when working out? So far Im only getting pumps from working biceps. Im only focused on getting heavier weights up for every bodypart. I get almost zero pumps for back, chest, shoulders, triceps and legs during my workouts. Should I include on getting pumps?[/quote]
Unless your shoulders and back are very big, even if you get a pump there you may not notice it. Not only that, but a “pump” is nothing more than more blood in that muscle group due to training it…which means there is no way you could truly prevent a “pump” unless you were using extremely light weight…or you are dead. If you are walking around in a size 46 suit jacket wondering why your back doesn’t pump up, it is because you have a size 46 back and won’t notice it.[/quote]
mm Thanks, this pretty much clears up my doubts about training
