It doesn’t matter.
To get to a certain level and get a physique that stands out, there are certain things that need to be done.
You won’t understand because:
You are a skinny-fat white guy with an average life, average sized dick and a paltry bank balance
You have chosen that you’d rather NOT stand out because its too late for you to make any appreciable changes to your physique at your age
you like to THINK you have a good physique and you’re satisfied with it, even though no one in the real world thinks you lift weights
There’s room for the mediocre, so carry on, sista man.
Ca marche?
[quote]bundy wrote:
[quote]Snaty wrote:
btw I think 3 times a week when using enough intensity and/ or volume can be sufficient to grow. You’ll probably won’t end up as a pro though… [/quote]
I never remember the original post stating he wanted to become the next Jay Cutler.
First of all let me just say that I am well aware that a number of powerlifters (including some very successful powerlifters) train their biceps and triceps. However if these guys only had three days per week to train…[/quote]
Wait, what successful powerlifter avoids training as is necessary to win and chooses to train within a 3 day period no matter what? What professional at that level have you heard say, “I only have 3 days a week to train”?
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then I’m sure they would be sacrificing these movements for movements which would assist their big three lifts. [/quote]
Isolation exercises now don’t assist the big three lifts?
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Whilst not doing bicep curls etc they would still hit this area through chin ups and one arm dumbbell rows. I’m sure if you dedicated one day to squat + assistance, one day to deadlift + assistance and one day to bench + assistance then this would put on size as long as a proper diet was followed.[/quote]
Is it a hard to follow concept that we are not simply talking about “some” size?
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Professor X, you seem to be critical of people who train three days per week. In case you haven’t notice 50% of the programs on this site as well as elite not to mention Defranco publish articles where it recommends training three days per week. [/quote]
In speaking to Tim, the fact that this site had become a haven for people who aren’t that serious is what he did NOT like. That is the reason for the changes to the site recently from what I can gather.
That is why BODYBUILDING is now in the title of this forum…lest we get overrun again by people who act like the goal is to tone or who act like you can get truly huge by only being in the gym 2-3 days a week.
I have no doubt that 50% or more of the people on this site wouldn’t stand out in a crowd of sedentary people who don’t lift. That’s the point. But hey, perhaps I’m wrong and all of you super-powered beings out there are just blowing up but all share the same need to hide your true identity in order to avoid a Fox sponsored autopsy.
That is why I keep asking for pictures of those who got huge by ONLY training 3 days a week but they all seem to be laying low. Then, someone will go find ONE guy and ignore the other 5,000 of you.
Wait, I have to have low self esteem to relate something that happened in order to get a point across? What is the cut off for that? If someone mentions they just graduated with a 4.0, does this mean they have low self esteem for mentioning it aloud? I don’t understand your logic of how stating something positive in public now equates to low self esteem.
Did you miss the point? Need it repeated?
The point once again is that most of the people who only train 3 days a week will never approach any level that actually matches the goals of what “bodybuilding” has stood for over the last century.
Why does this offend you?
As if your own arrogance isn’t blinding you to a very simple concept. You won’t show your progress just like most won’t…because you really haven’t made that much. There are thousands of guys like you…which is why there are so many “let’s train 2 or 3 days a week” routines. Personal trainers know where the money is.[/quote]
I’m not arrogant. You’re the one who’s trying to rubbish the guy who can only find the time to train three days per week.
When you find where I state that I train three days per week let me know. I have never trained three days as I have always been lucky enough to have the time to train more often. I find it amazing for someone who is a “Professor” has enough time to train so often and also has time to put on over 30000 posts. I know quite a few doctors who work in emergency and they don’t have time to do a shit!
Also, you seem to think that everyone lifts weights to become Mr Olympia. The way you put shit on people I thought you were Mr Olympia!
As for me not putting any photos on the forum. To put it simply, I don’t need to. I know how big I am and I know what my goals are regarding lifts. I happy enough in what I look like and (as I have already stated) I don’t need 60 kilogram kids telling me how I’m massive and how I made my biceps so big.
[quote] Bundy wrote:
I’m not arrogant. You’re the one who’s trying to rubbish the guy who can only find the time to train three days per week.
When you find where I state that I train three days per week let me know. I have never trained three days as I have always been lucky enough to have the time to train more often. I find it amazing for someone who is a “Professor” has enough time to train so often and also has time to put on over 30000 posts. I know quite a few doctors who work in emergency and they don’t have time to do a shit!
Also, you seem to think that everyone lifts weights to become Mr Olympia. The way you put shit on people I thought you were Mr Olympia!
As for me not putting any photos on the forum. To put it simply, I don’t need to. I know how big I am and I know what my goals are regarding lifts. I happy enough in what I look like and (as I have already stated) I don’t need 60 kilogram kids telling me how I’m massive and how I made my biceps so big.
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In all fairness, you can’t really expect people to listen to someone over the internet simply because he says “he’s happy enough in what I look like” seeing as the reader has no idea of what the poster looks like and the poster could easily be lying. Of course having pictures does not serve as absolute proof of someone’s size, but does serve as significant proof since suspicions can be alleviated simply by taking a photo of the person in question in a particular location/with a sign.
This is not about pride or dickswinging here, it’s about credible advice. If you’re genuinely concerned with 60kg kids talking so much about your size that it’s an issue, then I think you should really re-evaluate your own sense of self-perception, unless of course you really are that big…
I’d like to see some pictures as well, that sentence of your post really does make me think your physique is worth seeing.
[quote]Snaty wrote:
btw I think 3 times a week when using enough intensity and/ or volume can be sufficient to grow. You’ll probably won’t end up as a pro though… [/quote]
I never remember the original post stating he wanted to become the next Jay Cutler.
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It’s not about being the next jay cutler. What i’m trying point out is that jay cutler does have a better looking physique compared to the “oldies” who have won mr olympia. This would mean at least in my head that jay cutler must be doing something better than the oldies. This said maybe the three days a week program isn’t the best there is.
But if you have to train three days a week then offcourse there are ways.
First of all let me just say that I am well aware that a number of powerlifters (including some very successful powerlifters) train their biceps and triceps. However if these guys only had three days per week to train…[/quote]
Wait, what successful powerlifter avoids training as is necessary to win and chooses to train within a 3 day period no matter what? What professional at that level have you heard say, “I only have 3 days a week to train”?
[quote]
then I’m sure they would be sacrificing these movements for movements which would assist their big three lifts. [/quote]
Isolation exercises now don’t assist the big three lifts?
[quote]
Whilst not doing bicep curls etc they would still hit this area through chin ups and one arm dumbbell rows. I’m sure if you dedicated one day to squat + assistance, one day to deadlift + assistance and one day to bench + assistance then this would put on size as long as a proper diet was followed.[/quote]
Is it a hard to follow concept that we are not simply talking about “some” size?
dude, nobody cares if somebody trains 3 days a week, more power to them, but if you ask the fucking questions, how’s this for mass? Then except the damn truth that generally speaking, training 3 days per week is not conducive to gaining a lot of mass. No point in arguing what we already see successful bodybuilders do.
Why mention powerlifters when this is about mass. Why mention db row for arms when this is about gaining mass not adding 2 cm to my bicep. You want to look like a bodybuilder train like one. It takes a shit load of dedication and training and most train 5-6 times per week. They also do a split with a mix of compounds and isolation moves where each muscle gets worked. This should be common sense.
[quote]Snaty wrote:
btw I think 3 times a week when using enough intensity and/ or volume can be sufficient to grow. You’ll probably won’t end up as a pro though… [/quote]
I never remember the original post stating he wanted to become the next Jay Cutler.
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It’s not about being the next jay cutler. What i’m trying point out is that jay cutler does have a better looking physique compared to the “oldies” who have won mr olympia. This would mean at least in my head that jay cutler must be doing something better than the oldies. This said maybe the three days a week program isn’t the best there is.
But if you have to train three days a week then offcourse there are ways.
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jay is bigger than someone like Schwarzenegger because of the availability to more and better drugs. To me it sounds like you’re saying the guys from back in the day didn’t train good, but when it comes down to it Arnold trained is if his life depended on it everytime he hit the gym.
I’m not arrogant. You’re the one who’s trying to rubbish the guy who can only find the time to train three days per week. [/quote]
I didn’t even know “rubbish” was a verb. Someone who can “only find three days a week t train” is not as dedicated as someone who trains as much as is necessary to see optimal results. I am not sure how any sane person can even argue against that.
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When you find where I state that I train three days per week let me know. I have never trained three days as I have always been lucky enough to have the time to train more often. I find it amazing for someone who is a “Professor” has enough time to train so often and also has time to put on over 30000 posts. I know quite a few doctors who work in emergency and they don’t have time to do a shit![/quote]
Who gives a shit about whether YOU train 3 days a week or not? You can do whatever the hell you want to but don’t log in acting like only training 3 days a week is as effective to getting really big optimally as those who train more frequently.
This isn’t about being Mr. Olympia, however, there are things that work well for most people and things that do not. Why would someone serious about this be craving advice from “second best” or “never placed to start with”?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who gives a shit about whether YOU train 3 days a week or not? You can do whatever the hell you want to but don’t log in acting like only training 3 days a week is as effective to getting really big optimally as those who train more frequently.
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Well 3 a week CAN be more effective than more frequently, depending on a lot of factors. It’s really ignorant and close minded to think your way is the only way.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who gives a shit about whether YOU train 3 days a week or not? You can do whatever the hell you want to but don’t log in acting like only training 3 days a week is as effective to getting really big optimally as those who train more frequently.
[/quote]
Well 3 a week CAN be more effective than more frequently, depending on a lot of factors. It’s really ignorant and close minded to think your way is the only way.
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At this point, Professor X’s hardcore spiel is WARRANTED and NECESSARY! A few years ago, I thought he was a bit crude and insensitive. But judging from my posts, who am I to talk now?
It’s time to start kicking down T-tards doors and letting motherfuckas know that time it is, BOYEEE!
Its slimthugger, but posting with the pent-up rage and agression of HH.
A terrible, sloppy troll job, but he actually figured out how to net translate to portuguese. LOL.
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]knee-gro wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who gives a shit about whether YOU train 3 days a week or not? You can do whatever the hell you want to but don’t log in acting like only training 3 days a week is as effective to getting really big optimally as those who train more frequently.
[/quote]
Well 3 a week CAN be more effective than more frequently, depending on a lot of factors. It’s really ignorant and close minded to think your way is the only way.
[/quote]
At this point, Professor X’s hardcore spiel is WARRANTED and NECESSARY! A few years ago, I thought he was a bit crude and insensitive. But judging from my posts, who am I to talk now?
It’s time to start kicking down T-tards doors and letting motherfuckas know that time it is, BOYEEE!
I can’t speak for the medical profession here, but speaking as someone who has a doctorate in engineering and currently engaged in full-time research for the french government (so to speak)…some of us actually do sit in front of a computer/laptop from 9 to 6 including meal breaks, and have shockingly risen above being constantly monitored by a superior.
Unless you’re a complete bottom-feeding minion in your profession, n’importe quelle…or you just don’t have access to the internet at work, I’m surprised if you can’t surf the web meme temps que travail Factor in the midlife crisis some of us older members are going through, its no mystery why some of us DO post all day long.
[quote] wrote:
I find it amazing for someone who is a “Professor” has enough time to train so often and also has time to put on over 30000 posts. I know quite a few doctors who work in emergency and they don’t have time to do a shit!
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[quote]Snaty wrote:
btw I think 3 times a week when using enough intensity and/ or volume can be sufficient to grow. You’ll probably won’t end up as a pro though… [/quote]
I never remember the original post stating he wanted to become the next Jay Cutler.
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It’s not about being the next jay cutler. What i’m trying point out is that jay cutler does have a better looking physique compared to the “oldies” who have won mr olympia. This would mean at least in my head that jay cutler must be doing something better than the oldies. This said maybe the three days a week program isn’t the best there is.
But if you have to train three days a week then offcourse there are ways.
[/quote]
jay is bigger than someone like Schwarzenegger because of the availability to more and better drugs. To me it sounds like you’re saying the guys from back in the day didn’t train good, but when it comes down to it Arnold trained is if his life depended on it everytime he hit the gym. [/quote]
[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
It doesn’t matter.
To get to a certain level and get a physique that stands out, there are certain things that need to be done.
You won’t understand because:
You are a skinny-fat white guy with an average life, average sized dick and a paltry bank balance
You have chosen that you’d rather NOT stand out because its too late for you to make any appreciable changes to your physique at your age
you like to THINK you have a good physique and you’re satisfied with it, even though no one in the real world thinks you lift weights
There’s room for the mediocre, so carry on, sista man.
Ca marche?
[quote]bundy wrote:
[quote]Snaty wrote:
btw I think 3 times a week when using enough intensity and/ or volume can be sufficient to grow. You’ll probably won’t end up as a pro though… [/quote]
I never remember the original post stating he wanted to become the next Jay Cutler.
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I love T-dude.
And, funny how the first 2 posts of knee-gro disappeared lol. Those two posts were epic.
I was just (over)reacting to the fact that this thread turned into a clusterfuck because the op wants to train 3 times a week, and instead of helping him out with his routine, some experienced members just went on rambling about how 3 times ain’t optimal and how no top bodybuilder uses DC.
I don’t think the op was asking about what nonsense top BB do, and if you have any experience or knowledge you know that you can get really big working out 3 times a week, so why not help the op out with a program instead of rambling about what is optimal or not in order to become an aberration like Ronnie or any top BB?
I was also reacting to the fact that someone who “worked hard” just so men he never met compliment him on his physique got some issues and poor self esteem is just one of them.
Now, tribunal dude, I don’t need to net translate shit cause I am portuguese. If you have a spare portuguese or even a brazilian try me.
Et qu’est-ce qui se passe avec avec la langue franÃ?§aise en ton posts?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Who gives a shit about whether YOU train 3 days a week or not? You can do whatever the hell you want to but don’t log in acting like only training 3 days a week is as effective to getting really big optimally as those who train more frequently.
[/quote]
Well 3 a week CAN be more effective than more frequently, depending on a lot of factors. It’s really ignorant and close minded to think your way is the only way.
[/quote]
Cons with 3 day/week training:
-Major overlap (you have to train at least half your body per session)
-Not as many growth hormone/t-level boosts
-Usually requires training beyond “optimal anabolic window” per session (catabolism vs anabolism)
-Causes big muscle imbalances
-Rarely can do even 2 exercises per bodypart (without going “overtime”)
What is ignorant and closed minded about pointing out the obvious drawbacks such as the points above?
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
Cons with 3 day/week training:
-Major overlap (you have to train at least half your body per session)
-Not as many growth hormone/t-level boosts
-Usually requires training beyond “optimal anabolic window” per session (catabolism vs anabolism)
-Causes big muscle imbalances
-Rarely can do even 2 exercises per bodypart (without going “overtime”)
What is ignorant and closed minded about pointing out the obvious drawbacks such as the points above?[/quote]
Hilarious! Where did you get all of that nonsense from?
