How's This for a Routine for PLer/BBer?

[quote]ultralars wrote:

[quote]brauny96 wrote:

[quote]daraz wrote:
Your routine’s fine, don’t sweat it. You could post the best program ever invented, custom made for you by the Gods of strength, and random people here would still tell you what you do is wrong. As you can see the current flavor of the week is 5/3/1 so everybody’s on your nuts to do that. They don’t even know what’s good for themselves, but they still pretend they know better for you.

Your program looks straight out the dinosaur training book, the most old school type of program. Shit will change as you get older and stronger, but these programs are fine for you right now. In my teens, full body workouts like that were 10x more productive than any split.[/quote]

I’m not a random fucking guy, Ive spent enough time under the bar to realize that “hmmm maybe my bench doesnt respond to something, and my shoulders get really beat up from it” or “wow my squat is increasing with X program, so in the future I should do something like that.” I know how my body works because Ive gotten more experience on how to LISTEN to it, and that definitely doesnt happen overnight.

And for the record, I dont use 5/3/1, and I dont ever plan on using it again. because I listened to my body and looked at how much stronger/weaker I was getting, and made changes to it based on how I PERSONALLY felt. I recommended 5/3/1 because I saw how many BEGINNERS (OP) used it and learned the form, got bigger/stronger, and got some experience from it after a year.

To the OP

Your program will work for maybe another few months, hell maybe a bit longer, but once your body doenst just grow from newbie gains, you will stop, stall and go backwards with that thing. But whatever, you can just be like the other dumbasses, that wont take advice, then bitch and moan when theyre still 140 pounds after a year, I dont give a fuck.[/quote]
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how the fuck can you call my routine shit without giving any fucking reason at all???
you just told me i was unexperienced, is that your argument???
i gave you a whole fucking list on stuff i base my routine on, how the fuck is any of that wrong??
newbie gains might last 4-6 months but no more… i have been training for 8 months[/quote]

Kid, here’s you losing your temper and talking shit before anyone else did. If others did the same, you brought it on yourself.

[quote]ultralars wrote:

[quote]sufiandy wrote:
ultralars,

What are your current Bench/Squat/DL numbers and what were they at the beginning of 2010?[/quote]

i just started squatting when i first started this program, about 4 weeks ago. and i maxed about 2 weeks ago 70 kg, i guess it’s the same now.
i am not really focusing on either squat or deadlift, but i could do about 110 kg in DL when i first maxed in i think june.

at the benchpress which is one of the exercises that i focus on, i started out at 40 in january and can now bench 72.5. i hit a platue at 60 kg when the noob gains stopped. i am going for 100 kg benchpress by 24th december.

this might not be what you asked for but it’s one of the exercises i focus on so i’ll say it anyway. at the clean and jerk i could do about 40 in the beginning of june now i do 52.5

and to answer the other guys,

fabiop: i never do a set time rest, i rest till i feel i am ready for the next set.
the reason that i stacked the exercises the way i did is because the thing you said. that because i do multiple exercises that utilizes the same muscles altough the focus is somewhere else, the fatigue might drag me down. but i stacked them so that i never utilize the same muscles in a row.

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Oh look, it’s you saying that your squat hasn’t changed in the 4 weeks you’ve been training it.

You’re the reason the thread went to shit so quickly. Now, that you’ve been called out on it you respond with “fuck this forum.” Take a step back and look at the advice you’ve been given by people who know more than you, if you won’t listen to them and learn from their mistakes then you’re too stupid to be helped and shouldn’t bother posting on this forum anyway.

[quote]ultralars wrote:

[quote]UrbanSavage wrote:
Kid, your program is shit. You’ve been training for 8 months and just started squatting a month ago but somehow claim that you’re out of the range of noob gains? You also state that your squat has not improved since you started it a month ago? That doesn’t give you any kind of hint that you might be completely unqualified to come up with a routine with any effectiveness? Listen to the advice you’ve been given thus far and start one of the far superior programs that have been suggested to you.

Do you honestly think you can come up with a superior routine to gain muscle mass and strength than what someone like Jim Wendler can? You’re only going to waste a lot of your own time and effort following the routine you’ve come up with for yourself, trust that just about everyone on here knows much more than you do and all of the programs that have been suggested to you are miles ahead of any routine you would ever be able to come up with. Most of the people replying have probably made the mistake of following their own shitty routine and failed to make gains as a result, learn from the mistakes of others.

Also, is there a reason that you’re “not focusing” on the squat or deadlift?[/quote]

I never said that my squat hasn’t improved, i just squatted 5 kilos more than last time. thats a great improvement.

fuck this forum, i came here looking for advice on how to improve my routine and what i got was a bunch of fagots completely loosing their temper.

almost none of you guys came here and replied something like:

Your routine sucks because of x and y.

you all just said:
Your routine is fucking shit and you can burn in hell for ever using it, do the 5,3,1.

Get a life all of you.
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This is a prime example why 90% of the time its a waste of time to try to give advice to help someone out .

here is a workout routine i will be starting in september

week 1
workout 1-power snatch,deadlift
workout 2-f.squat, bench press
workout 3-high pull
workout 4-power clean
workout 5-back squat, sumodeadlift
workout 6-bench press

please comment on what i could do to improve this, or w/e else k tnx.

I am no expert, however that will not stop me from replying to your post. Your workout looks long, with a lot of stuff going on in it, but you’re also 15 which means you could probably recover from pretty much anything in 48 hours, I’m in my 40’s so when I see that sort of volume I just die a little inside. You may want to look at what you’re trying to accomplish and how you expect to get there with this routine. It looks like you have a lot of stuff going on on your A-Day, however if you knock out Curls and calf raises and mix in some of the assistance exercises on alternating workouts (rather than all of them on each A day) it looks more manageable to an old man like me. I would imagine your calves and biceps will grow on their own from everything else you do, plus curls aren’t a powerlifting event. I have 20" arms (I measured them when I was ordering a new bench shirt) and I haven’t curled in 10 years.

Bench press Barbell
Squats( to parallel)
Shoulder Press Barbell
Bent over row Barbell
shrugs (alternating)
tricep pushdown (alternating)
crunches

Again, you’re 15, so this volume may not trouble you at all, at least you’re doing (mostly) compound lifts and a low(ish) rep/set scheme, if you see gains keep going, but if it stops or regresses look into tweaking your lifts just a bit. Until then good luck.

What worries me most ultralars is not your routine but the fact you said you are focusing on the bench press!! You are setting yourself up for a lifetime of disappointment if you put benching ahead of squatting and deadlifting. If I knew when I started what I know at 41 I reckon I could have reached my current level of development in 5 yrs instead of twenty. Please take the advice of people who have been there and done that. Don’t waste years “spinning your wheels”.

Here is my opinion for you to ignore. I would do 5x5. It’s simple (increase the weight when you can complete all 5 sets of 5) has built in progression and has the right amount of volume and intensity. Do it for a few years religously and you’ll probably be bigger and stronger than half the people on here. Good luck.

[quote]FarmerBrett wrote:
What worries me most ultralars is not your routine but the fact you said you are focusing on the bench press!! You are setting yourself up for a lifetime of disappointment if you put benching ahead of squatting and deadlifting.

If I knew when I started what I know at 41 I reckon I could have reached my current level of development in 5 yrs instead of twenty. Please take the advice of people who have been there and done that. Don’t waste years “spinning your wheels”.

Here is my opinion for you to ignore. I would do 5x5. It’s simple (increase the weight when you can complete all 5 sets of 5) has built in progression and has the right amount of volume and intensity. Do it for a few years religously and you’ll probably be bigger and stronger than half the people on here. Good luck.[/quote]

Well, where do i find the 5x5 workout routine?

Google. It’s your friend. Help yourself, then others might in turn help you out.