[quote]supermick wrote:
Professor X wrote:
supermick wrote:
cro cop made him cry too.
I want to see the guy who doesn’t cry if his orbital bone is cracked. Crying is what your body does with that type of injury. That’s like making a big deal out of someone getting stabbed and then having the nerve to actually bleed.
They are two different things. How the hell can you compare a knife attack and 2 conditioned fighters fighting? He’s not alone in having suffered these injuries (can think of several rugby league players), but his reaction was a first for sure…
And no, i dont think i could have done any better…
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You’ve seen people get their orbital bone cracked and then what happened? Did they simply brush it off and keep playing? Have you heard of an “orbital blowout”? These aren’t minor injuries. Someone can go blind from an injury like that and the natural response to an eye injury that severe is to cry. It is a NATURAL RESPONSE. That means your body can’t help it. It also means that if you actually saw someone who fractured that bone who didn’t, I would love to see the footage.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
supermick wrote:
No one is acusing him of being a pussy
Calling him a total bitch doesn’t apply? You all are calling him a pussy. Why lie?[/quote]
ive not called him a pussy - dont apply your sweeping statement to me.
In the mid 1990’s sean Edwards, the wigan half back (Rugby league) fractured an eye socket and a cheekbone. He actually played on, as it was a cup final but the league is full of strange men, as is union where Buck shelford, the New Zealand number 8. has his scrotum gashed via a stamp. He popped his testicle back in, precceded to be stitched up and played on.
I personally know of one example where severe eye trauma injuries have occured and the individual fought on against several opponents.
You wanted examples, ive give you a few. I was actually joking regarding cro cops assassination of sapp but you seem to be defending him for actually crying - a fact i wasnt aware of.
Ive got no problems carrying on this discussion but i stick by my point sapp would not fare well in a strongman or powerlifting event.
““It was against Warrington in the 1990 final, the game in which I fractured my eye socket and broke my cheekbone,” he tells BBC Sport.”
This is not the same type of injury and that is what I am trying to get you to understand. Fracturing the rim of bone that surrounds your eye socket such that the volume of the fluid in the eye itself may decrease is not the same as a fractured cheekbone. He wouldn’t have played on if he actually fractured his eye socket.
Actually, let me apologize because I don’t want to call the man a liar. But I will say I don’t believe it is the same type of injury if he continued playing.
[quote]Kliplemet wrote:
if anything sapp is a brave man, a former football player stepping into the ring with some of the best fighters ever…
sure he is much bigger than most of them, but they are still heavyweights who have enough power to kill a bull. along with that they are technical killers.[/quote]
I would say that he is a smart man more than brave. He is a huge, strong monster who realized that he didn’t have the athletic ability or talent to compete in the NFL. He started fighting because of his freak show value, and when he went to Japan he gave them exactly what they wanted and became a larger than life character. He’s made millions and millions of dollars acting like an ass, and I’d take that kind of money to get my ass beat as well.
Obivously, his skills are quite mediocre but his size and strength carry him through all but the top fighters. It’s his acting skills that have made him a star.
““It was against Warrington in the 1990 final, the game in which I fractured my eye socket and broke my cheekbone,” he tells BBC Sport.”
This is not the same type of injury and that is what I am trying to get you to understand. Fracturing the rim of bone that surrounds your eye socket such that the volume of the fluid in the eye itself may decrease is not the same as a fractured cheekbone. He wouldn’t have played on if he actually fractured his eye socket.[/quote]
Learn something new everyday…thanks for the info prof, I love knowing useless shit like that.
Don't know about having no heart, he has trained with K1 fighter in my gym in Oz, was a true gentleman, had time for everyone and spoke to everyone who spoke to him, actually went out of his way to help some kids, compared to some pro atheletes i have seen he was a breath of fresh air.
[quote]aussie486 wrote:
Don’t know about having no heart, he has trained with K1 fighter in my gym in Oz, was a true gentleman, had time for everyone and spoke to everyone who spoke to him, actually went out of his way to help some kids, compared to some pro atheletes i have seen he was a breath of fresh air. [/quote]
I wish he would act that way on Japanese TV, the Japanese Media seems to want him to play the “Crazy Black Man”. I wish he wouldn’t.
I am sure he is lining his pockets- some would call it Selling Out.
No heart? A pussy? Its comical that people who sit and type in on a forum would call a MMA fighter a pussy. I don’t care of the guy is 0-100. This guy has gotten into the ring with some of the best fighters in the world. He didn’t cry and run out of the ring.
I mean seriously if any of you so-called “hardcore” guys were standing across from a pissed off Cro-Cop staring at you left leg twitching I’m not so sure you’d be brave. Its ok to say that he isn’t a great fighter but to say that someone who has fought the best and lived to tell about it has no heart or is a pussy is completely ridiculous. Especially when you are saying it over an internet forum.
[quote]Dirty Tiger wrote:
aussie486 wrote:
Don’t know about having no heart, he has trained with K1 fighter in my gym in Oz, was a true gentleman, had time for everyone and spoke to everyone who spoke to him, actually went out of his way to help some kids, compared to some pro atheletes i have seen he was a breath of fresh air.
I wish he would act that way on Japanese TV, the Japanese Media seems to want him to play the “Crazy Black Man”. I wish he wouldn’t.
I am sure he is lining his pockets- some would call it Selling Out.[/quote]
There is a great interview with Bob Sapp on Sherdog that was posted a few weeks ago. I gained respect for him after hearing it.
He’s definitely a smart business man and is well aware of the image that he’s projecting and knows how to cash in on it.
Selling out? Perhaps.
I’d rather see smart people selling out and remaining in control than dumb-asses getting manipulated into doing things for reasons they dont understand.
Either way, he seems happy and seems to be doing good.
I love it when he steps in the ring, it lists their disciplines, the next guy is kempo, muay thai or whatever, and sapp’s discipline is american football!
On a side note- who do you fancy- sapp, or Tyson (now, not in prime, that would be a stupid question)
Kimo terrible??? So what does that make Gracie? Kimo beat the shit out of him in his prime and only lost the match because of his pony tail! Gracie later came out for his next match but could not walk to the ring without help let alone fight. Sapp might not look good doing it but he fight!
Kimo terrible??? So what does that make Gracie? Kimo beat the shit out of him in his prime and only lost the match because of his pony tail! Gracie later came out for his next match but could not walk to the ring without help let alone fight. Sapp might not look good doing it but he fight![/quote]
Royce gave up about 100lbs to fight Kimo.
Sapp had over 100lbs on Kimo.
If you’re not into martial arts you might not appreciate this as much as some of us do.
For many martial artists being able to beat an obviously bigger and stronger opponent using just the skills that you practiced for years is a great reward.
The reason being is that it should be a given that the bigger, stronger man wins.
So when a smaller, weaker, frail fighter can win - all martial artists go crazy with excitement. It justifies all the years and hours of practicing your art.