How to Lift for FREE at Any Commercial Gym

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[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:
As far as who is to blame, if it’s anyone I think it’s the resolutioners crowd who have zero discipline and would only pay the gym a few weeks per year unless they were forced in to signing a year contract. But I actually see it as them subsidizing the gym since they pay for a year and don’t even lift that much. Paying for a service they don’t use, which means everyone else has to pay less.
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Those who walk in and train for free have the opposite effect. Everyone else has to pay more.

BTW, Biotest run this website and forum for free because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the same amount of clicks. Anyone who contributes in a productive manner keeps those costs down.
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Keep telling yourself that. Everyone knows you’re just a freeloader. Man up and admit it.
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I’m a freeloader. What’s your point? Are you equating that with being a thief?[/quote]

In this case, yes. [/quote]

So using a free website and forum is “stealing”?

There must be some reason TC doesn’t routinely ban anyone who hasn’t bought anything in the last 12 months? Maybe TC is “password harvesting”?[/quote]

You think this website and forum are free? They cost Biotest a lot of money to run. They get that money from paying customers. Anyone using this site who isn’t a paying customer is a freeloader. And that’s worse than being a “thief” by working out for free at a gym (which gyms allow you to do just like Biotest allows you to access the site content for free)

It’s not worth the cost and effort to hunt down freeloaders. They let people see content first because they know it will lead to more customers. If you don’t like the site, leave. If you do and use it a lot, then become a fucking customer, or at least shut the fuck up about other people “stealing” when you’re doing exactly that.

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[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’d LOVE it if my clients ripped me off.[/quote]

Feb 2008 and level ZERO. Thousands of posts, too. The people bitching about “stealing” are the ones who suckle from the teat of Biotest, taking all the free information, spending countless hours on this site reading and posting, etc yet they do not feel the need to support the company by buying their products (how the fuck do you think they can afford to give out all this free stuff, maintain the site, etc etc etc)??

And you know they’re using supplements, they just don’t buy them from Biotest.

Hey Dwarf, tell me how much money you’ve made from your clients by parroting information you got from tnation for free?[/quote]

You are a retard.

You realize membership on this site is free right? Thats what makes it different from a gym membership.

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I’m level 0 also, but I don’t have a credit card and Biotest likely would not be able to deliver to me anyway. I’d be good for level 2 fo sho!

Oh, and while it may be wrong to go into a gym and lift for free, I’m sure that going into a gym and picking up their dumbbells and so on would at least get you into a cozier ring of hell than the guy who steals cars or whatnot.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’d LOVE it if my clients ripped me off.[/quote]

Feb 2008 and level ZERO. Thousands of posts, too. The people bitching about “stealing” are the ones who suckle from the teat of Biotest, taking all the free information, spending countless hours on this site reading and posting, etc yet they do not feel the need to support the company by buying their products (how the fuck do you think they can afford to give out all this free stuff, maintain the site, etc etc etc)??

And you know they’re using supplements, they just don’t buy them from Biotest.

Hey Dwarf, tell me how much money you’ve made from your clients by parroting information you got from tnation for free?[/quote]

You are a retardfag.

You realize membership on this site is free right? Thats what makes it different from a gym membership.[/quote]

So is a one day trial at many gyms. No one is talking about not paying for a gym membership. I have one already. You’re the retard. Read my post DIRECTLY above yours.

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What this thread has turned into…

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[quote]Nards wrote:
I’m level 0 also, but I don’t have a credit card and Biotest likely would be able to deliver to me anyway. I’d be good for level 2 fo sho!

Oh, and while it may be wrong to go into a gym and lift for free, I’m sure that going into a gym and picking up their dumbbells and so on would at least get you into a cozier ring of hell than the guy who steals cars or whatnot. [/quote]

So it’s ok to steal because you don’t have a credit card? And you think someone is going to hell for something so trifling? In that case we’re all doomed, and since we’re already going there for such a trifling, we might as well go around raping and murdering as we see fit because like you said we’re already going to hell for sure. Keep up the religion like a good little sheep. Donate more to church pedophiles have to eat, too.

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[quote]wramsey wrote:
Anyone using this site who isn’t a paying customer is a freeloader. And that’s worse than being a “thief” by working out for free at a gym (which gyms allow you to do just like Biotest allows you to access the site content for free)[/quote]

No, gyms don’t allow you to do that without consent, in fact they implicitly forbid it by advertising fees. Biotest explicitly allows anyone to view their site and use their forum for free.

By your logic it is worse to use the free forum than to steal actual goods from Biotest’s warehouse.

The cost and effort of a database search for “Level=0 AND joined_date<4/4/2010”?

To be honest, expanding on your “morality is dead” argument would have been a better use of your time. What you’ve done here is dribbled lukewarm piss onto your own shoes, and weakened your “morality is dead” argument by saying that I’m “worse” than you (a moral judgement).

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[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:
Anyone using this site who isn’t a paying customer is a freeloader. And that’s worse than being a “thief” by working out for free at a gym (which gyms allow you to do just like Biotest allows you to access the site content for free)[/quote]

No, gyms don’t allow you to do that without consent, in fact they implicitly forbid it by advertising fees. Biotest explicitly allows anyone to view their site and use their forum for free.

By your logic it is worse to use the free forum than to steal actual goods from Biotest’s warehouse.

The cost and effort of a database search for “Level=0 AND joined_date<4/4/2010”?

To be honest, expanding on your “morality is dead” argument would have been a better use of your time. What you’ve done here is dribbled lukewarm piss onto your own shoes, and weakened your “morality is dead” argument by saying that I’m “worse” than you (a moral judgement).

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How is stealing actual goods the same as using a gym? The former costs, the latter doesn’t. Read the thread if you want to comment, as the rest of this has been covered more than once.

You’re worse by your bullshit moral standard. This is what’s dead. I already said what my standard is, might makes right and both are equally permissible.

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[quote]wramsey wrote:
How is stealing actual goods the same as using a gym? The former costs, the latter doesn’t.[/quote]

Really? I’m in the wrong business. I could have just set up a gym, maintained and staffed it for free. And idiots would pay me to use it, except for a few smart people.

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[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:
How is stealing actual goods the same as using a gym? The former costs, the latter doesn’t.[/quote]

Really? I’m in the wrong business. I could have just set up a gym, maintained and staffed it for free. And idiots would pay me to use it, except for a few smart people.

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Yeah then you could charge $1,000,000 per day to lift there and complain about people feeling entitled and not paying your ridiculous price. Then go out of business and kill yourself. Which you should do anyway.

When someone lifts at the gym, there’re not costing the gym anything. A car driving on the road doesn’t cost the state more than if they hadn’t driven on the road.

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[quote]wramsey wrote:
Yeah then you could charge $1,000,000 per day to lift there and complain about people feeling entitled and not paying your ridiculous price. [/quote]

Or I could just charge whatever I needed to to maximise my return and not worry about appeasing people who bitch about paying $10 because they think it costs me nothing to invest in my venture.

Good analogy bro! Just when I was thinking you were tired of coming up with new straw-man arguments.

You should stop paying taxes, it’s not like it costs the gubmint any more to keep your America running just because you - personally - are living in it.

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[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’d LOVE it if my clients ripped me off.[/quote]

Feb 2008 and level ZERO. Thousands of posts, too. The people bitching about “stealing” are the ones who suckle from the teat of Biotest, taking all the free information, spending countless hours on this site reading and posting, etc yet they do not feel the need to support the company by buying their products (how the fuck do you think they can afford to give out all this free stuff, maintain the site, etc etc etc)??

And you know they’re using supplements, they just don’t buy them from Biotest.

Hey Dwarf, tell me how much money you’ve made from your clients by parroting information you got from tnation for free?[/quote]

You are a retard.

You realize membership on this site is free right? Thats what makes it different from a gym membership.[/quote]

So is a one day trial at many gyms. No one is talking about not paying for a gym membership. I have one already. You’re the retard. Read my post DIRECTLY above yours. [/quote]

Wait are you the OP now? Or was the thread about dodging daily fees.

Backpedaling retard.

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[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’d LOVE it if my clients ripped me off.[/quote]

Feb 2008 and level ZERO. Thousands of posts, too. The people bitching about “stealing” are the ones who suckle from the teat of Biotest, taking all the free information, spending countless hours on this site reading and posting, etc yet they do not feel the need to support the company by buying their products (how the fuck do you think they can afford to give out all this free stuff, maintain the site, etc etc etc)??

And you know they’re using supplements, they just don’t buy them from Biotest.

Hey Dwarf, tell me how much money you’ve made from your clients by parroting information you got from tnation for free?[/quote]

You are a retard.

You realize membership on this site is free right? Thats what makes it different from a gym membership.[/quote]

So is a one day trial at many gyms. No one is talking about not paying for a gym membership. I have one already. You’re the retard. Read my post DIRECTLY above yours. [/quote]

Wait are you the OP now? Or was the thread about dodging daily fees.

Backpedaling retard.[/quote]

Lifting for ONE DAY isn’t skipping out on a MEMBERSHIP. No one is backpedaling on anything.

Zero reading comprehension. Kill yourself.

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[quote]DragnCarry wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:
Yeah then you could charge $1,000,000 per day to lift there and complain about people feeling entitled and not paying your ridiculous price. [/quote]

Or I could just charge whatever I needed to to maximise my return and not worry about appeasing people who bitch about paying $10 because they think it costs me nothing to invest in my venture.

Good analogy bro! Just when I was thinking you were tired of coming up with new straw-man arguments.

You should stop paying taxes, it’s not like it costs the gubmint any more to keep your America running just because you - personally - are living in it.

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You’re an idiot and/or being purposefully dense. I would obviously not pay taxes if I could avoid it (have you read this thread at all, or are you just stupid?) But living in a country has real costs that wouldn’t exist if you weren’t living there. Totally different.

I’m going to keep lifting for free at gyms. You can whine and be a butthurt moral all you want. :slight_smile: Let’s face it, you’re too lazy and stupid to do anything like open a gym. I love how you act like you actually might, and are righteously indignant at a hypothetical injustice lololol

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on a side note I hate to train in a new gym when I am away. feels absurd to stay alone 1 hour in a room that I dont know.

but I understand you OP. 80-90% of gyms are not even functionnal and they charge way too much. WAY too much. so fuck them

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If you’re like me, you eat even when you’re away from home. As a frequent traveler, I get pretty annoyed when I go to a new Safeway in a random city and they try to charge me $2 for ONE BOX OF WHEAT THINS.

This is an attempt to force people to get a Safeway membership rather than buy at other grocery stores, which for 95% of the eating population is sporadically at best. Serious eaters who are traveling obviously don’t fall into this category, but are treated the same as the skinny-fat masses by the numbskull employee at the gym front desk.

What to do? Most people either 1. Starve or 2. Pay the bullshit price. 1 is out for anyone serious about eating, and 2 is out for anyone who knows better, which will soon include you.

To eat for free at any grocery store when traveling, I simply walk past the cashier. 99% of the time they don’t try to stop me. to do this effectively, you have to make sure to do a few things:

  1. Most importantly, act like you bought the food and are not a criminal. Like, you’ve bought food a thousand time, so many times that stopping to pay is beneath you- YOU CAN DO IT WITH YOUR MIND. The same way you do at your home store.

  2. Walk fast. The less time they have to notice you and think about stopping you, the better. Plus, if you look like you’re in a hurry, they might be too lazy to commence with the chase.

  3. Look pissed off. No one wants to stop the Hulk. Be the Hulk.

  4. Don’t make eye contact. Ignore them completely, lke you didn’t even see them. This makes it harder for them to get your attention and stop you. Now they’re forced to chase after your fast-walking ass if they want to do anything. You can have your phone out like you’re texting as you walk by, or scanning the parking lot as if you’re worried about a military ambush. Your paranoia will transfer to them.

  5. Keep your headphones on and listen to music. I don’t need to do this anymore but it can’t hurt. The last time the girl called after me “Sir, what’s your name?” but I kept walking like I didn’t even hear her and she didn’t come after me. I wasn’t wearing headphones and it was obvious I could hear her, but she either thought I was in a hurry or that I thought she was talking to someone else, or she simply didn’t want to chase me down. She left to call the police instead.

Now, about that 1% where they DO stop you. I say I paid but lost my receipt. You don’t want to brush them off, because they probably have a tazer. Remember #1 above? It’s even more important now. act like you belong. If they ask you for Id, say you left it in the car. Say you’re gonna go get it, and then just drive off. If they want to file a police report, just make up a fake name (or just give them your real name like I do, I don’t give a fuck.) When they begin talking about charges insist that they made a mistake. Say that you paid several minutes ago. Never offer to pay again (it makes you look guilty, but more importantly it’s going to cost you $2.) Worst case scenario, just leave and go to another grocery store in the area and do it again. I’ve done this countless times.

Basically, use common sense. Every store is different, and sometimes you gotta use your intuition and think fast and probably run fast too and then decide how to handle things. For instance, if there’s no way you could not seem them as you walk out (say the entrance is a hallway, but in space,) don’t try to just ignore and walk by. Walk fast but smile and say hey and keep reaching in your pocket like you’re going to get your wallet but just walk on by and pull out your phone or so mething. Headphones really help in these situations. You are more likely to get tazed this way though.

So there’s my method to avoid paying ridiculous fees to eat for one day. It’s a decent thrill to do this, and doesn’t really require balls, but I could see how someone would think it does. I’ve saved literally thousands of dollars doing this over the years. I figured I would share. Now you don’t have any excuse not to eat while away from home. :slight_smile:

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I’m confused, I thought you liked straw-men? When things are totally different, you say they are the same, but if two things have striking similarities, you say they are “totally different”? Have you been living under power-lines? Something has magnetised your brain bass-ackwards little buddy!

[quote]Let’s face it, you’re too lazy and stupid to do anything like open a gym. I love how you act like you actually might, and are righteously indignant at a hypothetical injustice lololol
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Actually I’ve owned and operated businesses since I was 20 years old, which is why the thought of someone coming into my business and using my assets for free offends me. But the main reason I’m arguing with you is because for some reason, I just like jabbing trolls with sticks and seeing them lose their shit everywhere like you just did. You’re a classic! Troll 101 - don’t let the muggles counter-troll you.

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Ha ha I’ll be damned you are the OP.

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[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Eli B wrote:

[quote]wramsey wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I’d LOVE it if my clients ripped me off.[/quote]

Feb 2008 and level ZERO. Thousands of posts, too. The people bitching about “stealing” are the ones who suckle from the teat of Biotest, taking all the free information, spending countless hours on this site reading and posting, etc yet they do not feel the need to support the company by buying their products (how the fuck do you think they can afford to give out all this free stuff, maintain the site, etc etc etc)??

And you know they’re using supplements, they just don’t buy them from Biotest.

Hey Dwarf, tell me how much money you’ve made from your clients by parroting information you got from tnation for free?[/quote]

You are a retard.

You realize membership on this site is free right? Thats what makes it different from a gym membership.[/quote]

So is a one day trial at many gyms. No one is talking about not paying for a gym membership. I have one already. You’re the retard. Read my post DIRECTLY above yours. [/quote]

Wait are you the OP now? Or was the thread about dodging daily fees.

Backpedaling retard.[/quote]

Lifting for ONE DAY isn’t skipping out on a MEMBERSHIP. No one is backpedaling on anything.

Zero reading comprehension. Kill yourself.[/quote]

No, its skipping out on THE TEN DOLLAR FEE you yourself described in the OP.

When did I say you were skipping out on a “MEMBERSHIP”

Zero reading comprehension. Don’t kill yourself though. That ain’t cool.

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[quote]STFD23 wrote:
I just love the everybody owes me a free lunch generation. I guess we should just steal everything when we don’t agree on the price. [/quote]

Agreed - it’s 10 FUGGIN bucks. Parasites.

Can the OP tell us how he steals FREE protein bars and Gatorade from the gym too?