[quote]wramsey wrote:
Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. [/quote]
Earlier post…
“Wow, it’s not hard to understand. You can be on T NATION and not buy any supplements. But don’t go around saying others are stealing when they do the same thing at a gym that you do on T NATION. The hypocrisy is the problem.”
So, are we looting the place or not?
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
"Entitlement usually means someone thinks they are owed something when they aren’t. I don’t think I’m owed a free workout, I think I can just fucking take a free workout. And I can and do. "
this is exactly what entitlement is. For some reason you think you are entitled to a free workout. [/quote]
I think I can work out for free. I do not think I am entitled to work out for free, in the sense that the gym OWES it to me. Like I don’t go up and demand to speak to the manager, and say they have to give me a free workout because of XYZ reason.
You don’t understand the word entitlement. It’s more than just thinking you can have something, it’s thinking that you should have it and that you deserve it as well. [/quote]
k, so “you think you can work out for free” but you don’t think “you should be able to work out for free” or “you deserve to workout for free” ?
interesting. so what makes you “think” you can work out for free then?
[/quote]
Because I DO work out for free every fucking time I walk right by the front desk. I’m doing it because I don’t want to pay a bullshit price, not because I feel like a free workout is owed to me for being a special snowflake, or whatever. [/quote]
I’m not asking whether you can physically pull it off and not get kicked out.
I’m trying to figure out what is your reasoning for believing you are entitled to a free workout. So far the only reason you came up with is “bullshit price”.
Is that all?
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You’re pretty dense. I don’t believe I’m entitled. I do it simply because I can get away with it. I need no other reason or justification. The only “reason” is not to spend $10.
It’s a bullshit price, that’s for sure. But that’s not why I do it. I do it because I can. [/quote]
In that case it comes down purely to a risk/reward ratio.
If the “reward” of saving $10 for you personally outweighs the “risk” of getting kicked out and having to go look for another gym you must be either broke, cheap or you just don’t value your own time much.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
The times I’m stopped it’s almost always an older woman (or a moralfag guy, hey there’s a few in this thread) I think they’re attracted to the Alpha Male behavior and they’re hoping you’ll put them in their place (read: bend her over and fuck her like the little slut she is) since older bitchy aggressive women are so used to being the dominant one, which is against feminine nature. They see you roll up and maybe they stop you at first because they love the drama and shit but deep down it’s because they want your cock. I could be wrong.
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Haha, yeah that kind of thinking may get you into trouble 
Most of those women simply see themselves as moral police - they literally get their kicks from pinpointing other people’s faults and asserting their opinion as if somehow you are being intimidating/inconsiderate towards them or others. They’re the type who’re always quick to jump to conclusions (usually a negative one that accuses a person of having alterior motives)
Mostly though, they just like the sound of their own voice and will never back down because they’re always “right”[/quote]
AND, fuck you both.
My gym has cameras at the front desk and everywhere else. If I had let some freeloader jump the gate, my dickhead boss would have had me pay the 15$ day charge out of my lousy 9$ an hour wage. I’m not paying for your training, I don’t give a shit if you are a “big dog”, pay up or leave.[/quote]
LOL so typical. Someone works for a place that fucks him, and rather than be mad at the place that fucks him, he is mad at other people who aren’t being fucked as hard as he is by the company.
Besides, those cameras aren’t checked unless something bad happens (e.g., money stolen from safe)
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Dude, I chose to work there, and accepted the rules as they were.
And yes, the owner loves his fucking cams. If you think some owners don’t check the 10k system they bought for security, then you’d be wrong.
Anyways, good luck with the trollin’ and freeloading. Just don’t try it at my gym.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
Not sure if troll. I’ll play along though. Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. The point is that it’s more of a douchebag thing to do than work out at a gym for free for a day rather than pay a ridiculous fee. Both are douchebaggy but don’t try to act like one is perfectly fine and the other isn’t simply because Biotest is cool enough to make the information and forum free. You’re taking value and not providing any in return, period.
Go read the original post where I talk about running a gym. The guy said to start my own gym and see how I like the freeloaders like myself. I said I actually know what it’s like and I didn’t mind it at all. Just as most gyms don’t give a fuck that I work out for free, since I don’t cost them anything and would simply not lift before I paid $10.
And equal things? lol they are both examples of might making right, very different examples and no way equal. That’s the point of giving more than one example, it adds to the general point in a different way.
Your “grow up man” ending proves the point made earlier, that people just want to feel superior. You’re real mature, bro. Maybe one day I can aspire to your heights. [/quote]
How am I the one trolling? Right…anyways, moving towards logic.
I agree that it is a shitty thing to do, read the articles and never buy any product. However, that’s still a choice the company is making. Having you steal a day of training from them is not a choice the gym makes. There is a big difference. Especially since you’ve said you’ve done this hundreds of times. How much money do you think you’ve stolen by this point?
Funny…the OP says nothing about running your own gym…but, going to where you do talk about running your own gym, you said it was a bunch of equipment in your shed. That is NOT the same as running a gym as a business and having to pay overhead. You can’t compare the two. The only way they’re even remotely the same is if you were charging your friends to workout and one of them snuck in for free. You don’t mind it because you weren’t trying to make money. If you were, along with paying overhead, I promise you that you would feel differently.
So, might makes right? So, what if the PTs at one of the gyms you’re robbing decide to grab a hold of you and drag your ass out, leaving your shit behind, are you just gonna walk away and say might makes right? Or is your childish ass just going to call the police and cry about how they laid their hands on you? I’d put a bunch of money on B. And even if you’re the rear exception that wouldn’t, I guarantee all the kids agreeing with you would.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. [/quote]
Earlier post…
“Wow, it’s not hard to understand. You can be on T NATION and not buy any supplements. But don’t go around saying others are stealing when they do the same thing at a gym that you do on T NATION. The hypocrisy is the problem.”
So, are we looting the place or not?
[/quote]
Yeah, I don’t think facts really matter with this guy. I’m sure he’s either a troll, or just incredibly dense and self-involved.
I’m only doing arguing with this guy at this point because it’s Sunday, all my errands are done, dinner has been cooked and eaten and I don’t have much else to do for the next couple hours before I hit the sack.
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. [/quote]
Earlier post…
“Wow, it’s not hard to understand. You can be on T NATION and not buy any supplements. But don’t go around saying others are stealing when they do the same thing at a gym that you do on T NATION. The hypocrisy is the problem.”
So, are we looting the place or not?
[/quote]
It’s not stealing according to a legal definition. But it’s stealing in our everyday idea of taking value without returning any.
When people do 2 but pretend only 1 is stealing because it’s “technically true according to legal definition” that’s hypocritical. If you’re a moralfag don’t do either, if you’re not then both are ok and especially stfu about 1 if you do 2.
oh man, I missed the “might is right” gem. fucking LOL.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]Deorum wrote:
This thread is genius. What you described there is the art of lying. Confidence is the key to a good liar. If a person does not believe his own lie, it’s easy to see through. The more one can make himself seem to believe his own lie(he belongs in that gym) the better it works(gets him a free workout lol!).[/quote]
Like they say, the dishonest shall inherit the Earth.
Great argument for why one should lie. Dr. House would be proud lol[/quote]
I never said people should do anything.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. [/quote]
Earlier post…
“Wow, it’s not hard to understand. You can be on T NATION and not buy any supplements. But don’t go around saying others are stealing when they do the same thing at a gym that you do on T NATION. The hypocrisy is the problem.”
So, are we looting the place or not?
[/quote]
It’s not stealing according to a legal definition. But it’s stealing in our everyday idea of taking value without returning any.
When people do 2 but pretend only 1 is stealing because it’s “technically true according to legal definition” that’s hypocritical. If you’re a moralfag don’t do either, if you’re not then both are ok and especially stfu about 1 if you do 2.
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Impossible to talk to this guy since he’s making up his own “rules.”
/thread
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
"Entitlement usually means someone thinks they are owed something when they aren’t. I don’t think I’m owed a free workout, I think I can just fucking take a free workout. And I can and do. "
this is exactly what entitlement is. For some reason you think you are entitled to a free workout. [/quote]
I think I can work out for free. I do not think I am entitled to work out for free, in the sense that the gym OWES it to me. Like I don’t go up and demand to speak to the manager, and say they have to give me a free workout because of XYZ reason.
You don’t understand the word entitlement. It’s more than just thinking you can have something, it’s thinking that you should have it and that you deserve it as well. [/quote]
k, so “you think you can work out for free” but you don’t think “you should be able to work out for free” or “you deserve to workout for free” ?
interesting. so what makes you “think” you can work out for free then?
[/quote]
Because I DO work out for free every fucking time I walk right by the front desk. I’m doing it because I don’t want to pay a bullshit price, not because I feel like a free workout is owed to me for being a special snowflake, or whatever. [/quote]
I’m not asking whether you can physically pull it off and not get kicked out.
I’m trying to figure out what is your reasoning for believing you are entitled to a free workout. So far the only reason you came up with is “bullshit price”.
Is that all?
[/quote]
You’re pretty dense. I don’t believe I’m entitled. I do it simply because I can get away with it. I need no other reason or justification. The only “reason” is not to spend $10.
It’s a bullshit price, that’s for sure. But that’s not why I do it. I do it because I can. [/quote]
In that case it comes down purely to a risk/reward ratio.
If the “reward” of saving $10 for you personally outweighs the “risk” of getting kicked out and having to go look for another gym you must be either broke, cheap or you just don’t value your own time much.
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The actual risk is very low. Like OP said 99% of time it’s no problem. I would not be valuing my time if I spent 20 minutes every time to fill out bullshit paperwork for a free pass. Walking right by = 0 minutes, 99% of time. That’s another reason I do it. I got tired of haggling with the workers twice a week at a different place each time.
And maybe I am cheap, I don’t want to pay thousands of dollars per year to lift weights, though.
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]dianab wrote:
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
The times I’m stopped it’s almost always an older woman (or a moralfag guy, hey there’s a few in this thread) I think they’re attracted to the Alpha Male behavior and they’re hoping you’ll put them in their place (read: bend her over and fuck her like the little slut she is) since older bitchy aggressive women are so used to being the dominant one, which is against feminine nature. They see you roll up and maybe they stop you at first because they love the drama and shit but deep down it’s because they want your cock. I could be wrong.
[/quote]
Haha, yeah that kind of thinking may get you into trouble
Most of those women simply see themselves as moral police - they literally get their kicks from pinpointing other people’s faults and asserting their opinion as if somehow you are being intimidating/inconsiderate towards them or others. They’re the type who’re always quick to jump to conclusions (usually a negative one that accuses a person of having alterior motives)
Mostly though, they just like the sound of their own voice and will never back down because they’re always “right”[/quote]
AND, fuck you both.
My gym has cameras at the front desk and everywhere else. If I had let some freeloader jump the gate, my dickhead boss would have had me pay the 15$ day charge out of my lousy 9$ an hour wage. I’m not paying for your training, I don’t give a shit if you are a “big dog”, pay up or leave.[/quote]
LOL so typical. Someone works for a place that fucks him, and rather than be mad at the place that fucks him, he is mad at other people who aren’t being fucked as hard as he is by the company.
Besides, those cameras aren’t checked unless something bad happens (e.g., money stolen from safe)
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Dude, I chose to work there, and accepted the rules as they were.
And yes, the owner loves his fucking cams. If you think some owners don’t check the 10k system they bought for security, then you’d be wrong.
Anyways, good luck with the trollin’ and freeloading. Just don’t try it at my gym.[/quote]
If you chose to work there and accept the rules, then stfu if you have to pay for someone who sneaks by. For all you know I lifted for free at your gym on your dime lol
And no, I don’t think that at most gyms, which are open at least 8 hours per day, that the owner is going to watch every second of footage every day to make sure no one slips by during a 10 second period. Call me crazy. Fast foward = not catching me. I’m too slick sister.
[quote]benos4752 wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
Not sure if troll. I’ll play along though. Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. The point is that it’s more of a douchebag thing to do than work out at a gym for free for a day rather than pay a ridiculous fee. Both are douchebaggy but don’t try to act like one is perfectly fine and the other isn’t simply because Biotest is cool enough to make the information and forum free. You’re taking value and not providing any in return, period.
Go read the original post where I talk about running a gym. The guy said to start my own gym and see how I like the freeloaders like myself. I said I actually know what it’s like and I didn’t mind it at all. Just as most gyms don’t give a fuck that I work out for free, since I don’t cost them anything and would simply not lift before I paid $10.
And equal things? lol they are both examples of might making right, very different examples and no way equal. That’s the point of giving more than one example, it adds to the general point in a different way.
Your “grow up man” ending proves the point made earlier, that people just want to feel superior. You’re real mature, bro. Maybe one day I can aspire to your heights. [/quote]
How am I the one trolling? Right…anyways, moving towards logic.
I agree that it is a shitty thing to do, read the articles and never buy any product. However, that’s still a choice the company is making. Having you steal a day of training from them is not a choice the gym makes. There is a big difference. Especially since you’ve said you’ve done this hundreds of times. How much money do you think you’ve stolen by this point?
Funny…the OP says nothing about running your own gym…but, going to where you do talk about running your own gym, you said it was a bunch of equipment in your shed. That is NOT the same as running a gym as a business and having to pay overhead. You can’t compare the two. The only way they’re even remotely the same is if you were charging your friends to workout and one of them snuck in for free. You don’t mind it because you weren’t trying to make money. If you were, along with paying overhead, I promise you that you would feel differently.
So, might makes right? So, what if the PTs at one of the gyms you’re robbing decide to grab a hold of you and drag your ass out, leaving your shit behind, are you just gonna walk away and say might makes right? Or is your childish ass just going to call the police and cry about how they laid their hands on you? I’d put a bunch of money on B. And even if you’re the rear exception that wouldn’t, I guarantee all the kids agreeing with you would.[/quote]
I’ve saved thousands of dollars. It’s not like one day at a gym is worth $10. I would not lift before I would pay that much.
Sure, Biotest is choosing to provide stuff for free. That doesn’t change the fact that anyone who takes it all for free and doesn’t buy products is a freeloader. If anything it makes Biotest more worthy of one’s support. It does change whether that freeloading is illegal or not, you’re 100% right that it is not in Biotest’s case but is in the gym case.
Christ, back to my “gym” again. OP about running my own gym = the first post where I talk about running my own gym. Was kinda confusing. Anyway, yes there are obvious differences. The important similarity is that someone who wouldn’t otherwise pay using the gym for free isn’t costing either place anything. My set up did cost money, had overhead, etc. I was willing to bear the full burden of that when I could have charged a few bucks per person. So in essence EVERYONE was getting in free rather than just a few “freeloaders”.
And your last comment shows your misunderstanding of might makes right. The United States Government is much mightier than me or a PT. It’s them who enforce the laws we have, and their force is what makes our laws “right”. But I dunno, I might just leave. Given how small most PTs are though, it’s not likely to happen in the first place.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
As far as who is to blame, if it’s anyone I think it’s the resolutioners crowd who have zero discipline and would only pay the gym a few weeks per year unless they were forced in to signing a year contract. But I actually see it as them subsidizing the gym since they pay for a year and don’t even lift that much. Paying for a service they don’t use, which means everyone else has to pay less.
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Those who walk in and train for free have the opposite effect. Everyone else has to pay more.
BTW, Biotest run this website and forum for free because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the same amount of clicks. Anyone who contributes in a productive manner keeps those costs down.
[quote]Meal Ticket wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]biglifter wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
Obviously I don’t give a fuck if reading shit for free without buying supplements is technically stealing or not. I don’t think it is, strictly speaking. [/quote]
Earlier post…
“Wow, it’s not hard to understand. You can be on T NATION and not buy any supplements. But don’t go around saying others are stealing when they do the same thing at a gym that you do on T NATION. The hypocrisy is the problem.”
So, are we looting the place or not?
[/quote]
It’s not stealing according to a legal definition. But it’s stealing in our everyday idea of taking value without returning any.
When people do 2 but pretend only 1 is stealing because it’s “technically true according to legal definition” that’s hypocritical. If you’re a moralfag don’t do either, if you’re not then both are ok and especially stfu about 1 if you do 2.
[/quote]
Impossible to talk to this guy since he’s making up his own “rules.”
/thread[/quote]
Uh, no. I elaborated on 2 definitions of the word “stealing” being used. It matters because people who aren’t stealing in the legal sense are in fact stealing in the moral sense. And this is a moral discussion, not a legal one.
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
As far as who is to blame, if it’s anyone I think it’s the resolutioners crowd who have zero discipline and would only pay the gym a few weeks per year unless they were forced in to signing a year contract. But I actually see it as them subsidizing the gym since they pay for a year and don’t even lift that much. Paying for a service they don’t use, which means everyone else has to pay less.
[/quote]
Those who walk in and train for free have the opposite effect. Everyone else has to pay more.
BTW, Biotest run this website and forum for free because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the same amount of clicks. Anyone who contributes in a productive manner keeps those costs down.
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Keep telling yourself that. Everyone knows you’re just a freeloader. Man up and admit it.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
As far as who is to blame, if it’s anyone I think it’s the resolutioners crowd who have zero discipline and would only pay the gym a few weeks per year unless they were forced in to signing a year contract. But I actually see it as them subsidizing the gym since they pay for a year and don’t even lift that much. Paying for a service they don’t use, which means everyone else has to pay less.
[/quote]
Those who walk in and train for free have the opposite effect. Everyone else has to pay more.
BTW, Biotest run this website and forum for free because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the same amount of clicks. Anyone who contributes in a productive manner keeps those costs down.
[/quote]
Keep telling yourself that. Everyone knows you’re just a freeloader. Man up and admit it.
[/quote]
I’m a freeloader. What’s your point? Are you equating that with being a thief?
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
As far as who is to blame, if it’s anyone I think it’s the resolutioners crowd who have zero discipline and would only pay the gym a few weeks per year unless they were forced in to signing a year contract. But I actually see it as them subsidizing the gym since they pay for a year and don’t even lift that much. Paying for a service they don’t use, which means everyone else has to pay less.
[/quote]
Those who walk in and train for free have the opposite effect. Everyone else has to pay more.
BTW, Biotest run this website and forum for free because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the same amount of clicks. Anyone who contributes in a productive manner keeps those costs down.
[/quote]
Keep telling yourself that. Everyone knows you’re just a freeloader. Man up and admit it.
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I’m a freeloader. What’s your point? Are you equating that with being a thief?[/quote]
In this case, yes.
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
"Entitlement usually means someone thinks they are owed something when they aren’t. I don’t think I’m owed a free workout, I think I can just fucking take a free workout. And I can and do. "
this is exactly what entitlement is. For some reason you think you are entitled to a free workout. [/quote]
I think I can work out for free. I do not think I am entitled to work out for free, in the sense that the gym OWES it to me. Like I don’t go up and demand to speak to the manager, and say they have to give me a free workout because of XYZ reason.
You don’t understand the word entitlement. It’s more than just thinking you can have something, it’s thinking that you should have it and that you deserve it as well. [/quote]
k, so “you think you can work out for free” but you don’t think “you should be able to work out for free” or “you deserve to workout for free” ?
interesting. so what makes you “think” you can work out for free then?
[/quote]
Because I DO work out for free every fucking time I walk right by the front desk. I’m doing it because I don’t want to pay a bullshit price, not because I feel like a free workout is owed to me for being a special snowflake, or whatever. [/quote]
I’m not asking whether you can physically pull it off and not get kicked out.
I’m trying to figure out what is your reasoning for believing you are entitled to a free workout. So far the only reason you came up with is “bullshit price”.
Is that all?
[/quote]
You’re pretty dense. I don’t believe I’m entitled. I do it simply because I can get away with it. I need no other reason or justification. The only “reason” is not to spend $10.
It’s a bullshit price, that’s for sure. But that’s not why I do it. I do it because I can. [/quote]
have you ever killed a man because you thought you could get away with it?
i realize this is a greater spectrum but you seem to have, as someone else stated, your own rules, so by those standards anything you feel you can get away with you can do because you beat someone at it. that makes no sense. who pays your bills? what if your boss realized he could start skimming money off your check little by little because he could, wouldnt you be pissed if you found out about that?
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]DragnCarry wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
As far as who is to blame, if it’s anyone I think it’s the resolutioners crowd who have zero discipline and would only pay the gym a few weeks per year unless they were forced in to signing a year contract. But I actually see it as them subsidizing the gym since they pay for a year and don’t even lift that much. Paying for a service they don’t use, which means everyone else has to pay less.
[/quote]
Those who walk in and train for free have the opposite effect. Everyone else has to pay more.
BTW, Biotest run this website and forum for free because it’s a hell of a lot cheaper than paying for the same amount of clicks. Anyone who contributes in a productive manner keeps those costs down.
[/quote]
Keep telling yourself that. Everyone knows you’re just a freeloader. Man up and admit it.
[/quote]
I’m a freeloader. What’s your point? Are you equating that with being a thief?[/quote]
In this case, yes. [/quote]
So using a free website and forum is “stealing”?
There must be some reason TC doesn’t routinely ban anyone who hasn’t bought anything in the last 12 months? Maybe TC is “password harvesting”?
[quote]fighting_fires wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
[quote]wramsey wrote:
[quote]ReignIB wrote:
"Entitlement usually means someone thinks they are owed something when they aren’t. I don’t think I’m owed a free workout, I think I can just fucking take a free workout. And I can and do. "
this is exactly what entitlement is. For some reason you think you are entitled to a free workout. [/quote]
I think I can work out for free. I do not think I am entitled to work out for free, in the sense that the gym OWES it to me. Like I don’t go up and demand to speak to the manager, and say they have to give me a free workout because of XYZ reason.
You don’t understand the word entitlement. It’s more than just thinking you can have something, it’s thinking that you should have it and that you deserve it as well. [/quote]
k, so “you think you can work out for free” but you don’t think “you should be able to work out for free” or “you deserve to workout for free” ?
interesting. so what makes you “think” you can work out for free then?
[/quote]
Because I DO work out for free every fucking time I walk right by the front desk. I’m doing it because I don’t want to pay a bullshit price, not because I feel like a free workout is owed to me for being a special snowflake, or whatever. [/quote]
I’m not asking whether you can physically pull it off and not get kicked out.
I’m trying to figure out what is your reasoning for believing you are entitled to a free workout. So far the only reason you came up with is “bullshit price”.
Is that all?
[/quote]
You’re pretty dense. I don’t believe I’m entitled. I do it simply because I can get away with it. I need no other reason or justification. The only “reason” is not to spend $10.
It’s a bullshit price, that’s for sure. But that’s not why I do it. I do it because I can. [/quote]
have you ever killed a man because you thought you could get away with it?
i realize this is a greater spectrum but you seem to have, as someone else stated, your own rules, so by those standards anything you feel you can get away with you can do because you beat someone at it. that makes no sense. who pays your bills? what if your boss realized he could start skimming money off your check little by little because he could, wouldnt you be pissed if you found out about that?
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No, I’ve never had a reason to. You can blow your fucking brains out, just because you can doesn’t mean you should. And you CAN do anything you want. It’s just a risk/reward decision as someone pointed out before. If my boss could get away with it, I might be pissed but that doesn’t matter. He’s paid me less and the money is in his hands. I can’t do shit about it. Or maybe I can in which case I was the mightier one. That’s just how the world works. Morality is dead.