How to Get Bigger Biceps?

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

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How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.[/quote]

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.
How is a close-grip bench not a major mass-building lift? Because it targets the triceps to a great extent and somehow having or trying to build outstanding arms is now not cool anymore?

Who cares if your arms grow some from rows and stock bench presses? Big problem to just do 2 additional exercises? Isn’t this the bodybuilding forum?

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Gregus wrote:
Ok, what if someone adds direct arm work and their arms don’t get stronger? Like the OP. What then, more work? And if they still don’t respond? Even more work with heavier weight?

Doing the same or more of the same in the hope that the outcome will be somehow different is the very essence of insanity.

Some of you are truly one track minded in your training. lol.

Why would you want to do more and more?
You add in some heavy-duty arm exercises, BB curls, Alt. offset Db curls, Close-Grips or IH/RGB’s or whatever and maybe one of the better extension movements and there you have it. If you don’t get stronger on those, maybe try to eat something once in a while? If you stall out, switch to a different exercise for some time?

Are you seriously trying to tell me that there are trainees out there who have their nutrition, rest and routine right but due to no reason at all can’t get stronger at fucking close-grip benchpresses ?

Why do you people think that exercises designed to target primarily the arm-musculature are somehow radically different from other exercises?

Just pick something that allows for good progression… No one here is saying that you should depend on something like reverse-grip one-arm pushdowns for tricep growth.
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Well said. The IQ is dropping on this forum quickly. I have never even heard of someone who simply “can not get stronger”. That doesn’t even make sense yet these guys think that training biceps directly somehow doesn’t make the muscle stronger?

And then we have to deal with the same types acting like anyone with more experience is clueless?

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Was that the point? Half if not more of T-Nation are smaller and weaker than Brad Pitt. I personally found it interesting that Kroc himself would admit to his arms and delts lagging (which must have had some impact on his powerlifting performance or else he wouldn’t bother with that, don’t you think?). Guess standing next to Troponin does give people inferiority complexes in the arm and delt department, though :wink:

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.
How is a close-grip bench not a major mass-building lift? Because it targets the triceps to a great extent and somehow having or trying to build outstanding arms is now not cool anymore?

Who cares if your arms grow some from rows and stock bench presses? Big problem to just do 2 additional exercises? Isn’t this the bodybuilding forum? [/quote]

That thread was an eye opener. Most of the people here have small arms yet they seem truly resistant to fucking training them. That makes no sense at all. Why are they even arguing the point?

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[quote]chilco wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
chilco wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
chilco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.

You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!

lol did you just threaten to beat up Prof X? Interesting.

2 words: KRAV MAGA

Take your shit to the Combat Sports forum.

Listen Little Hitler the only reason you don’t want to hear about Krav is that your Nationalist Nazi ass can stand der Juden.
(i.e, the jew.) Get on you moped zig zag on down to das library and read some Mein Kampf. 88 and sig heil mother fucker. Do it for das vatterland.
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Very interesting that the mods allow this.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
chilco wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
chilco wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
chilco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.

You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!

lol did you just threaten to beat up Prof X? Interesting.

2 words: KRAV MAGA

Take your shit to the Combat Sports forum.

Listen Little Hitler the only reason you don’t want to hear about Krav is that your Nationalist Nazi ass can stand der Juden.
(i.e, the jew.) Get on you moped zig zag on down to das library and read some Mein Kampf. 88 and sig heil mother fucker. Do it for das vatterland.

Very interesting that the mods allow this.
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It is even more interesting that these types are filling up this board lately. You are wasting your time arguing with them.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.
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I gotta see this.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.

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[quote]Gregus wrote:
Because the interesting this is, if you’re not gifted in the genetics department for arms, doing more direct arm work can be very counterproductive, just as it can be very productive for some.
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If there actually is someone out there who somehow loses muscle by training their biceps directly, they need to find a new hobby because they are not cut out for this one if their plan is to make a lot of progress. I don’t even know anyone who finds that training arms is “counterproductive” to having big strong arms.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.
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It does if you are discussing someone so rarely genetically gifted that they have huge arms without ever training them.

Do you think there are even two people like that on this forum?

There is a reason most of the people who make claims about how big their arms are never post pictures of them.

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Sigh. Most of the people focusing on the big lifts and seeing arm progress are getting systemic benefits - They’re probably finally eating enough and focusing on progression.

Everyone responds to something best. Keep a training log and find what works for you. To try a WIDE variety of philosophies should only take 16 weeks or so - focus on progression.

I find that high frequency (I add a biceps/triceps/calves/abs ‘super set’ 3 times) at the end of each workout, 4 times a week, 12 sets a week total and progress in each of these categories seems to be very rapid. But that’s just for me…Find what works best for you and get stronger…then you’ll get bigger.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.
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I have never ever in any way said that any one here would end up with arms like Kroc’s.

And the people on here doing no arm work aren’t even close to Kroc’s arm development (btw he always did some direct arm work, like almost all powerlifters… He just recently realized that doing pushdowns with the same weight over and over won’t get them any bigger and that the big three alone didn’t help increase his arm size any further, despite extreme performance increases on those lifts. … His arms stopped growing when he stopped adding weight to his arm exercises or neglected them alltogether.), so what’s your point? If you can get to kroc’s level of arm size without working your arms, more power to you. I don’t see any people like that on here though…

And the ones with arms similar to or bigger than Kroc’s who post on this forum are all extremely strong on arm movements.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.

It does if you are discussing someone so rarely genetically gifted that they have huge arms without ever training them.

Do you think there are even two people like that on this forum?

There is a reason most of the people who make claims about how big their arms are never post pictures of them.

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Yes I think there are more then 2 people, if not the majority of people on here like that. They don’t look disproportiantely big to me, they look like a guy who can lift that weight. Your telling me if the people trained to the point where they can bench 600 lbs, deadlifting 800lbs, and squatting 1000lbs would need rare genetics to have Krocs arms?

They don’t look disproportiantely big to me, they look like a guy who can lift that weight.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.

I have never ever in any way said that any one here would end up with arms like Kroc’s.

And the people on here doing no arm work aren’t even close to Kroc’s arm development (btw he always did some direct arm work, like almost all powerlifters… He just recently realized that doing pushdowns with the same weight over and over won’t get them any bigger and that the big three alone didn’t help increase his arm size any further, despite extreme performance increases on those lifts. … His arms stopped growing when he stopped adding weight to his arm exercises or neglected them alltogether.), so what’s your point? If you can get to kroc’s level of arm size without working your arms, more power to you. I don’t see any people like that on here though…

And the ones with arms similar to or bigger than Kroc’s who post on this forum are all extremely strong on arm movements.[/quote]

There’s plenty of people like that, olympic lifters and power lifters included. You just want to bring up that in march 1987 they did 2 workouts for direct arm work and thats why their arms are the way they are.

Me and you just run into different kinds of people I guess. All the people I see that can rep 315 bench, or 405 dead, look like they can arms included. I don’t run into all these people training regularly with heavy weight on major lifts and have small 13 or 14 inch arms, unless they’re 5’2.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.

It does if you are discussing someone so rarely genetically gifted that they have huge arms without ever training them.

Do you think there are even two people like that on this forum?

There is a reason most of the people who make claims about how big their arms are never post pictures of them.

Yes I think there are more then 2 people, if not the majority of people on here like that. They don’t look disproportiantely big to me, they look like a guy who can lift that weight. Your telling me if the people trained to the point where they can bench 600 lbs, deadlifting 800lbs, and squatting 1000lbs would need rare genetics to have Krocs arms?

They don’t look disproportiantely big to me, they look like a guy who can lift that weight. [/quote]

Please show me those people who bench 600 raw (you didn’t mention any equipment after all… But hey, show me the equipped guys too) without ever training their triceps through lockouts, CGP’s, Pin-presses, JM Presses, Skullcrushers and whatnot…

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.

I have never ever in any way said that any one here would end up with arms like Kroc’s.

And the people on here doing no arm work aren’t even close to Kroc’s arm development (btw he always did some direct arm work, like almost all powerlifters… He just recently realized that doing pushdowns with the same weight over and over won’t get them any bigger and that the big three alone didn’t help increase his arm size any further, despite extreme performance increases on those lifts. … His arms stopped growing when he stopped adding weight to his arm exercises or neglected them alltogether.), so what’s your point? If you can get to kroc’s level of arm size without working your arms, more power to you. I don’t see any people like that on here though…

And the ones with arms similar to or bigger than Kroc’s who post on this forum are all extremely strong on arm movements.

There’s plenty of people like that, olympic lifters and power lifters included. You just want to bring up that in march 1987 they did 2 workouts for direct arm work and thats why their arms are the way they are.

Me and you just run into different kinds of people I guess. All the people I see that can rep 315 bench, or 405 dead, look like they can arms included. I don’t run into all these people training regularly with heavy weight on major lifts and have small 13 or 14 inch arms, unless they’re 5’2.
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Show me the people like that on this forum, come on!
We have how many big plers here? MarauderMeat and a handful more?
Where are our big olympic lifters? kliplement sure doesn’t look like anything to me.

And haven’t I said something like “Powerlifters do direct arm work (CGP’s, Pin presses etc)” before? The only olympic lifters with decent arms are those of the heaviest weight-classes… And I dare say I’ve seen those guys cheat curl etc…(the one German Champ who won at the O-games, for example) Strongman competitors too, and the list goes on.

There are quite a few people on this forum who go pretty heavy on deads and squats for their general size but have small arms.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Airtruth wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:

Funny how Matt Kroc complained in his log that his arms (and delts I believe) are the only muscle-groups/bodyparts of his which haven’t grown in a decade or so… And in that time he went from one-arm DB rowing peanuts to 270 or so for 10 or something like that. Done 250 for 20 or some such crazy number, too, if not more. He also deadlifts a damn lot. He also benches a damn lot. Etc.

How much money you want to bet that half if not more of T-Nation would’ve wanted his arms that didn’t grow in the last decade at that time?

Yes direct arm work will make your arms bigger. If you never do them proportionately they will be smaller, but if you never do them and just stick to making huge gains in major mass gaining lifts your arms are not going to just go from 12" to 13" when you add 100 lbs to your row deadlift and bench.

May I remind you of the “bodyweight and arm size” thread?
Seems like that 12 to 13 inches is exactly what most people managed after adding a couple o hundred lbs to their row, dead and bench.

I gotta see this.

Once again: I’m not saying do one-arm pushdowns and spider curls.

No what are you are saying, implying and relaying is that not doing arm work will cause you to have small arms like Kroc, what I’m saying is his arms were not small, in fact may be bigger than many on here that do direct arm work. Just because he sees it as his weakness doesn’t take away from the actaul size.

I have never ever in any way said that any one here would end up with arms like Kroc’s.

And the people on here doing no arm work aren’t even close to Kroc’s arm development (btw he always did some direct arm work, like almost all powerlifters… He just recently realized that doing pushdowns with the same weight over and over won’t get them any bigger and that the big three alone didn’t help increase his arm size any further, despite extreme performance increases on those lifts. … His arms stopped growing when he stopped adding weight to his arm exercises or neglected them alltogether.), so what’s your point? If you can get to kroc’s level of arm size without working your arms, more power to you. I don’t see any people like that on here though…

And the ones with arms similar to or bigger than Kroc’s who post on this forum are all extremely strong on arm movements.

There’s plenty of people like that, olympic lifters and power lifters included. You just want to bring up that in march 1987 they did 2 workouts for direct arm work and thats why their arms are the way they are.

Me and you just run into different kinds of people I guess. All the people I see that can rep 315 bench, or 405 dead, look like they can arms included. I don’t run into all these people training regularly with heavy weight on major lifts and have small 13 or 14 inch arms, unless they’re 5’2.
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I could deadlift 405 for 5 back when I had 14 inch arms… That was before I added direct arm work.

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fascinating read.
hey, for a dumbass who knows nothing at least i’ve posted pics hahah.

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[quote]Airtruth wrote:

Yes I think there are more then 2 people, if not the majority of people on here like that. They don’t look disproportiantely big to me, they look like a guy who can lift that weight. Your telling me if the people trained to the point where they can bench 600 lbs, deadlifting 800lbs, and squatting 1000lbs would need rare genetics to have Krocs arms?

They don’t look disproportiantely big to me, they look like a guy who can lift that weight. [/quote]

I’m sorry, but what web site are you referring to? Most of the people here barely have arms over 15" and where are ALL of these people with 600lbs bench presses? Is this a joke? Most of the people here act like weighing over 220lbs means steroids so what the hell are you talking about?

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Erm, maybe its just me but how many people do you know personally that can lift that weight lol ?

400kg Deadlift fucking hell man im training 7 years and can’t/won’t come near that lol thats some SERIOUS pulling power.

Christ i doubt if in my liftime ill ever do a 1000lb squat lol !