chinups built up my biceps and grip strength more than any variations of curls ever could
[quote]Cable wrote:
Well, this is refreshing. I was waiting for someone to tell him to stop doing curls. [/quote]
I still think that if people were required to post pictures that the “anti-curl” crowd would shrivel and die quickly.
have you tried incline dumbbell curls where you feel a strong stretch along the inside(long head) of the biceps?
i recently added this exercise to my bicep workout and attribute this exercise to my new bicep gains.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Cable wrote:
Well, this is refreshing. I was waiting for someone to tell him to stop doing curls.
I still think that if people were required to post pictures that the “anti-curl” crowd would shrivel and die quickly.[/quote]
x2,so true.
I have decent size biceps (in proportion to everything else I have) and mine are very weak when I do bicep curls.
They got the way they are now from lots of pulling movements including: deadlifts, pullups, rows, face pulls, db snatches etc.
But now im noticing that isolating them with curls and such is going to take it to the next level so thats what im focusing on now.
Also, I noticed that when doing pullups/chinups, if i focus on slow eccentrics, my biceps end up taking more of the load then my lats. Im not sure why this is, but it works.
Two things, lots of heavy pulling movements like row, deadlifts, chins, and lots of heavy duty curls, bar, ez bar, dumbbell.
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My college roomate was enormous. He was a powerlifter and I can only recall him training biceps once in our 4 years of friendship. Dude benched 575 lbs. Did behind the neck presses with 375 lbs. for 3 reps. Well you get the idea.
His arms were well over 21 inches and on the day that I urged him to train arms with me I couldn’t believe how strong they were. He could literally stand strait up with very little sway in his barbell curl and use 225 lbs. for sets of 6.
His attitude was f*ck the bicep work “I’ll just go heavier on deadlifts.” He may have had a point???
Requiring everyone to post pictures before allowing them to respond to threads would probably be the single best change this forum could make. Imagine how many meaningless debates would just go away.
[quote]chilco wrote:
My college roomate was enormous. He was a powerlifter and I can only recall him training biceps once in our 4 years of friendship. Dude benched 575 lbs. Did behind the neck presses with 375 lbs. for 3 reps. Well you get the idea.
His arms were well over 21 inches and on the day that I urged him to train arms with me I couldn’t believe how strong they were. He could literally stand strait up with very little sway in his barbell curl and use 225 lbs. for sets of 6.
His attitude was f*ck the bicep work “I’ll just go heavier on deadlifts.” He may have had a point???[/quote]
If he grew off of that, then it obviously worked for him and he shouldn’t change a thing. Other people might need more direct work to see real improvements, assuming that nutrition and the rest of their lifting is in line. Is this really that complicated?
[quote]chilco wrote:
My college roomate was enormous. He was a powerlifter and I can only recall him training biceps once in our 4 years of friendship. Dude benched 575 lbs. Did behind the neck presses with 375 lbs. for 3 reps. Well you get the idea.
His arms were well over 21 inches and on the day that I urged him to train arms with me I couldn’t believe how strong they were. He could literally stand strait up with very little sway in his barbell curl and use 225 lbs. for sets of 6.
His attitude was f*ck the bicep work “I’ll just go heavier on deadlifts.” He may have had a point???[/quote]
He only had a point if you also have 21" arms from NOT training them.
I also won’t even go into how I feel about the truth of that claim…
On second thought…fuck it. 21"+ arms are nothing to play with. That is national level bodybuilder material and you are claiming he did that with no direct training?
Yeah…right.
Not to mention that how some big guy trains today may not be how they trained to get there.
Hell, there are pro bodybuilders who don’t have arms that big.
I will be glad when some of you start posting pictures of these claims. Everyone always claims they know someone as big as Ronnie Coleman who doesn’t lift yet we NEVER see these people in pictures or just walking around.
I also wouldn’t take the word of someone on this unless their arms were close to that size as well. It is damn near impossible for some much smaller guy to “eye” 21"+ arms accurately.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I also wouldn’t take the word of someone on this unless their arms were close to that size as well. It is damn near impossible for some much smaller guy to “eye” 21"+ arms accurately.[/quote]
Sooo true, I’ve had smaller people ask me on more than one occasion if I have 20" arms and they are tad over 17"…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:
My college roomate was enormous. He was a powerlifter and I can only recall him training biceps once in our 4 years of friendship. Dude benched 575 lbs. Did behind the neck presses with 375 lbs. for 3 reps. Well you get the idea.
His arms were well over 21 inches and on the day that I urged him to train arms with me I couldn’t believe how strong they were. He could literally stand strait up with very little sway in his barbell curl and use 225 lbs. for sets of 6.
His attitude was f*ck the bicep work “I’ll just go heavier on deadlifts.” He may have had a point???
He only had a point if you also have 21" arms from NOT training them.
I also won’t even go into how I feel about the truth of that claim…
On second thought…fuck it. 21"+ arms are nothing to play with. That is national level bodybuilder material and you are claiming he did that with no direct training?
Yeah…right.
Not to mention that how some big guy trains today may not be how they trained to get there.
Hell, there are pro bodybuilders who don’t have arms that big.
I will be glad when some of you start posting pictures of these claims. Everyone always claims they know someone as big as Ronnie Coleman who doesn’t lift yet we NEVER see these people in pictures or just walking around.
I also wouldn’t take the word of someone on this unless their arms were close to that size as well. It is damn near impossible for some much smaller guy to “eye” 21"+ arms accurately.[/quote]
Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.
You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!
[quote]chilco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:
Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.
You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!
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lol did you just threaten to beat up Prof X? Interesting.
[quote]chilco wrote:
Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
[/quote]
You previously stated he was a powerlifter who did not train biceps. Now he used to be a bodybuilder? And he still didn’t train biceps directly?
Why get mad when people pull your story apart. It was held together with Scotch tape.
[quote]chilco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:
My college roomate was enormous. He was a powerlifter and I can only recall him training biceps once in our 4 years of friendship. Dude benched 575 lbs. Did behind the neck presses with 375 lbs. for 3 reps. Well you get the idea.
His arms were well over 21 inches and on the day that I urged him to train arms with me I couldn’t believe how strong they were. He could literally stand strait up with very little sway in his barbell curl and use 225 lbs. for sets of 6.
His attitude was f*ck the bicep work “I’ll just go heavier on deadlifts.” He may have had a point???
He only had a point if you also have 21" arms from NOT training them.
I also won’t even go into how I feel about the truth of that claim…
On second thought…fuck it. 21"+ arms are nothing to play with. That is national level bodybuilder material and you are claiming he did that with no direct training?
Yeah…right.
Not to mention that how some big guy trains today may not be how they trained to get there.
Hell, there are pro bodybuilders who don’t have arms that big.
I will be glad when some of you start posting pictures of these claims. Everyone always claims they know someone as big as Ronnie Coleman who doesn’t lift yet we NEVER see these people in pictures or just walking around.
I also wouldn’t take the word of someone on this unless their arms were close to that size as well. It is damn near impossible for some much smaller guy to “eye” 21"+ arms accurately.
Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.
You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!
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my advice:
what are your elbow extensors like? brachi? reverse curls? do you do them? do you do them with low reps? not doing those will put a cealing on your growth fast.
second what are your chins like? what is your chin form like? do you ever do extra weight? what is your tempo and range of motion like?
how many sets to failure are you doing for your arms? how close to each upper body workout are you training arms?
lastlys what is your nutrition like?
[quote]MISCONCEPTION wrote:
my advice:
what are your elbow extensors like? brachi? reverse curls? do you do them? do you do them with low reps? not doing those will put a cealing on your growth fast.
second what are your chins like? what is your chin form like? do you ever do extra weight? what is your tempo and range of motion like?
how many sets to failure are you doing for your arms? how close to each upper body workout are you training arms?
lastlys what is your nutrition like?
[/quote]
I’ll focus on the hammer curls and the reverse curls more cause the other stuff ain’t gittin it done. Thanx.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
chilco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:
Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.
You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!
lol did you just threaten to beat up Prof X? Interesting.[/quote]
2 words: KRAV MAGA
my arms arent that big either compared to the rest of me, especially my back. ill just train them, they’ll grow
[quote]chilco wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
chilco wrote:
Professor X wrote:
chilco wrote:
Brother… you are a bitter dude! Some BS…I don’t. My roomate went from bodybuilding to powerlifting and was indeed a genetic freak.
I wouldn’t shy from you in any way what so ever. There are many I’d walk down a dark alley with. You are not one of them. You hide behind a keyboard and spout your whimsical nonsense. You flame others with little regard.
You are most likely one the few people any one should take advice from. You make the error of mistaking humility for weakness, until you are lying flat on your back. You are a pseudo-intellectual with the personality of a snail. May God protect you and keep you fit. Remember it’s the outter quadrant of the glute, not the center, lest you hit the sciatic nerve!
lol did you just threaten to beat up Prof X? Interesting.
2 words: KRAV MAGA
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4 words: I HAVE A GUN