Haven’t eaten since 8 last night. Was up at 630 doing hiit sprints and foam rolling. Now plugging away at some data gathering, fML, then I will hit legs this afternoon hard as fuck with some whey during it. First true meal will be around 5. Come at me bros
844 posts more to go until becomes Prof X the White
and its a LoTR joke inb4 I’m racist
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
It may be irrelevant to you that someone would have to change up the foods they eat to meet the same caloric requirements.
I am not sure how that “irrelevant” to everyone else.[/quote]
Changing foods to meet caloric requirements? Isn’t that just how life is? Unless someone just for some reason is stupid picky and likes to eat like only 3 types of foods, I’m not seeing the problem. Please explain, because I think I must be missing something.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Haven’t eaten since 8 last night. Was up at 630 doing hiit sprints and foam rolling. Now plugging away at some data gathering, fML, then I will hit legs this afternoon hard as fuck with some whey during it. First true meal will be around 5. Come at me bros[/quote]
Idk how you sip whey THROUGH a workout. Would make me wanna puke.
Yummy. Vanilla milkshake flavor with strawberry crystal light. So good. And I make it very watery It’s certainly not shake consistency
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
It may be irrelevant to you that someone would have to change up the foods they eat to meet the same caloric requirements.
I am not sure how that “irrelevant” to everyone else.[/quote]
Changing foods to meet caloric requirements? Isn’t that just how life is? Unless someone just for some reason is stupid picky and likes to eat like only 3 types of foods, I’m not seeing the problem. Please explain, because I think I must be missing something. [/quote]
No one mentioned a problem. Why do you have a problem with what was discussed? What needs to be said has been…and yet here you are looking for things to complain about.
The original statement was:[quote]
Not just that, “most people” have real jobs where eating every 3 hours or whatever is not always an option even if you prepare ahead of time. That happens to me all of the time. It doesn’t matter how great the diet I prepared was if I don’t get to eat all day because I am in the clinic.
The person avoiding getting the cals in to make sure they eat “perfect” at all times may not grow as much.
[/quote]
Why would anyone have a problem with this statement to cause a two page fuss over it?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Haven’t eaten since 8 last night. Was up at 630 doing hiit sprints and foam rolling. Now plugging away at some data gathering, fML, then I will hit legs this afternoon hard as fuck with some whey during it. First true meal will be around 5. Come at me bros[/quote]
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
I actually think it can affect the leanness of the bulk. I don’t know if it does, but I see how it can.
If your body is primed for using fat for a fuel during a certain period of the day (based on circadian rhythms), and you simply let it use bodyfat during this time instead of food you’ve eaten… then it could get leaner during part of the day, while then using the food you eat for energy the rest of the time and for building muscle.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
It may be irrelevant to you that someone would have to change up the foods they eat to meet the same caloric requirements.
I am not sure how that “irrelevant” to everyone else.[/quote]
Changing foods to meet caloric requirements? Isn’t that just how life is? Unless someone just for some reason is stupid picky and likes to eat like only 3 types of foods, I’m not seeing the problem. Please explain, because I think I must be missing something. [/quote]
No one mentioned a problem. Why do you have a problem with what was discussed? What needs to be said has been…and yet here you are looking for things to complain about.
The original statement was:[quote]
Not just that, “most people” have real jobs where eating every 3 hours or whatever is not always an option even if you prepare ahead of time. That happens to me all of the time. It doesn’t matter how great the diet I prepared was if I don’t get to eat all day because I am in the clinic.
The person avoiding getting the cals in to make sure they eat “perfect” at all times may not grow as much.
[/quote]
Why would anyone have a problem with this statement to cause a two page fuss over it?
[/quote]
Because to me it has no relevance, and as a natural who is ‘gaining’, I’m here to learn. So if it’s brought up, I wanna know why?
So you simply stated the fact that sometimes, you have to go a little longer then you’d like to eat, just because?
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Yummy. Vanilla milkshake flavor with strawberry crystal light. So good. And I make it very watery It’s certainly not shake consistency [/quote]
I use to try Vanilla whey + Orange Gatorade, which to me tastes like candy. But during a workout about makes me puke if it’s anything big (like Legs or Back).
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Because to me it has no relevance, and as a natural who is ‘gaining’, I’m here to learn. So if it’s brought up, I wanna know why?
So you simply stated the fact that sometimes, you have to go a little longer then you’d like to eat, just because?
[/quote]
I actually wrote that sometimes food choices need to change in my previous response to you…a point to which Mtagg wrote that he would recommend someone eat a hamburger or pizza to get the calories in…which means you are arguing over what exactly?
Because I dared to discuss the fact that food choices may need to be changed to meet caloric requirements so the “perfect plan” may need to be modified?
This is what you claim has NO RELEVANCE?
Are you fucking serious with this?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
I actually think it can affect the leanness of the bulk. I don’t know if it does, but I see how it can.
If your body is primed for using fat for a fuel during a certain period of the day (based on circadian rhythms), and you simply let it use bodyfat during this time instead of food you’ve eaten… then it could get leaner during part of the day, while then using the food you eat for energy the rest of the time and for building muscle.[/quote]
I think it could, but I mean it’s a very ‘bro-sciency’ thing to believe, and on top of that not relevant to someone who doesn’t really give a shit about ‘lean-gaining’ lol. I just don’t know why it got brought up, when anything remotely pertaining to ‘bro-science’ as been dismissed completely by some.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Because to me it has no relevance, and as a natural who is ‘gaining’, I’m here to learn. So if it’s brought up, I wanna know why?
So you simply stated the fact that sometimes, you have to go a little longer then you’d like to eat, just because?
[/quote]
I actually wrote that sometimes food choices need to change in my previous response to you…a point to which Mtagg wrote that he would recommend someone eat a hamburger or pizza to get the calories in…which means you are arguing over what exactly?
Because I dared to discuss the fact that food choices may need to be changed to meet caloric requirements so the “perfect plan” may need to be modified?
This is what you claim has NO RELEVANCE?
Are you fucking serious with this?[/quote]
Yes, because I feel some slight variances in food choices doesn’t have anything to do with the ‘perfection’ of a meal plan. If you ate hamburgers and pizza one day, and it didn’t exceed your caloric or macro needs for the day, why would that be better/worse then getting to split up the cals/macros in another meal?
I’m not sure what a perfect plan even means lol
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Because to me it has no relevance, and as a natural who is ‘gaining’, I’m here to learn. So if it’s brought up, I wanna know why?
So you simply stated the fact that sometimes, you have to go a little longer then you’d like to eat, just because?
[/quote]
I actually wrote that sometimes food choices need to change in my previous response to you…a point to which Mtagg wrote that he would recommend someone eat a hamburger or pizza to get the calories in…which means you are arguing over what exactly?
Because I dared to discuss the fact that food choices may need to be changed to meet caloric requirements so the “perfect plan” may need to be modified?
This is what you claim has NO RELEVANCE?
Are you fucking serious with this?[/quote]
Yes, because I feel some slight variances in food choices doesn’t have anything to do with the ‘perfection’ of a meal plan. If you ate hamburgers and pizza one day, and it didn’t exceed your caloric or macro needs for the day, why would that be better/worse then getting to split up the cals/macros in another meal?
I’m not sure what a perfect plan even means lol[/quote]
This approach would require someone to actually track their calories and macros.
How do you know if it fits if you don’t track things?
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Yes, because I feel some slight variances in food choices doesn’t have anything to do with the ‘perfection’ of a meal plan. If you ate hamburgers and pizza one day, and it didn’t exceed your caloric or macro needs for the day, why would that be better/worse then getting to split up the cals/macros in another meal?
I’m not sure what a perfect plan even means lol[/quote]
I am not clear on why I can only discuss things that YOU personally feel are relevant to you.
Oh wait…I can discuss whatever I please. Go fig.
Kindly avoid posting if you see a post that is ON TOPIC yet discussing something you personally can not find the relevance in.
It will save the rest of us from the screams of butthurt.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Because to me it has no relevance, and as a natural who is ‘gaining’, I’m here to learn. So if it’s brought up, I wanna know why?
So you simply stated the fact that sometimes, you have to go a little longer then you’d like to eat, just because?
[/quote]
I actually wrote that sometimes food choices need to change in my previous response to you…a point to which Mtagg wrote that he would recommend someone eat a hamburger or pizza to get the calories in…which means you are arguing over what exactly?
Because I dared to discuss the fact that food choices may need to be changed to meet caloric requirements so the “perfect plan” may need to be modified?
This is what you claim has NO RELEVANCE?
Are you fucking serious with this?[/quote]
Yes, because I feel some slight variances in food choices doesn’t have anything to do with the ‘perfection’ of a meal plan. If you ate hamburgers and pizza one day, and it didn’t exceed your caloric or macro needs for the day, why would that be better/worse then getting to split up the cals/macros in another meal?
I’m not sure what a perfect plan even means lol[/quote]
It’s not worth it… don’t get sucked in…
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Because to me it has no relevance, and as a natural who is ‘gaining’, I’m here to learn. So if it’s brought up, I wanna know why?
So you simply stated the fact that sometimes, you have to go a little longer then you’d like to eat, just because?
[/quote]
I actually wrote that sometimes food choices need to change in my previous response to you…a point to which Mtagg wrote that he would recommend someone eat a hamburger or pizza to get the calories in…which means you are arguing over what exactly?
Because I dared to discuss the fact that food choices may need to be changed to meet caloric requirements so the “perfect plan” may need to be modified?
This is what you claim has NO RELEVANCE?
Are you fucking serious with this?[/quote]
Yes, because I feel some slight variances in food choices doesn’t have anything to do with the ‘perfection’ of a meal plan. If you ate hamburgers and pizza one day, and it didn’t exceed your caloric or macro needs for the day, why would that be better/worse then getting to split up the cals/macros in another meal?
I’m not sure what a perfect plan even means lol[/quote]
Stop wasting your time.
You are being trolled because the Professor is mad that no one is responding to his crap anymore in the CVD and Fat thread.
You would be wise to ignore his posts and converse with people who are genuinely interested in intelligent conversations.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
I actually think it can affect the leanness of the bulk. I don’t know if it does, but I see how it can.
If your body is primed for using fat for a fuel during a certain period of the day (based on circadian rhythms), and you simply let it use bodyfat during this time instead of food you’ve eaten… then it could get leaner during part of the day, while then using the food you eat for energy the rest of the time and for building muscle.[/quote]
I think it could, but I mean it’s a very ‘bro-sciency’ thing to believe, and on top of that not relevant to someone who doesn’t really give a shit about ‘lean-gaining’ lol. I just don’t know why it got brought up, when anything remotely pertaining to ‘bro-science’ as been dismissed completely by some. [/quote]
I’ve seen enough studies and read enough phys to buy it. Makes sense to me. Can’t wait for more studies to look st things like this
[quote]Waittz wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
Haven’t eaten since 8 last night. Was up at 630 doing hiit sprints and foam rolling. Now plugging away at some data gathering, fML, then I will hit legs this afternoon hard as fuck with some whey during it. First true meal will be around 5. Come at me bros[/quote]
[/quote]
I loled
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
I’m still confused why anyone is talking about meal frequency really. Like not being able to eat for even 12 hours a day, while making a bit more difficult, doesn’t change what that person needs to eat to be in a surplus or deficit. Like it shouldn’t effect the ‘leanness’ of the gains of one’s bulk, and is really irrelevant to the conversation I feel lol.[/quote]
I actually think it can affect the leanness of the bulk. I don’t know if it does, but I see how it can.
If your body is primed for using fat for a fuel during a certain period of the day (based on circadian rhythms), and you simply let it use bodyfat during this time instead of food you’ve eaten… then it could get leaner during part of the day, while then using the food you eat for energy the rest of the time and for building muscle.[/quote]
I think it could, but I mean it’s a very ‘bro-sciency’ thing to believe, and on top of that not relevant to someone who doesn’t really give a shit about ‘lean-gaining’ lol. I just don’t know why it got brought up, when anything remotely pertaining to ‘bro-science’ as been dismissed completely by some. [/quote]
Lol, I see what you mean.
I don’t think it’s quite that bro-sciency, I believe there’s a fair amount of research supporting it and I know Ori Hofmekler cited some stuff in The Warrior Diet. But I get what you’re saying.
I think meal-timing’s only relevance to those who don’t really care about the lean-gains approach is just to say that if life gets in the way and you can only eat sporadically throughout a day… it’s not going to screw things up.