How to 'Bulk' For Naturals

Training
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[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
^Yeah, but I believe that, in X’s case, 405 was probably getting close to max effort for him. Therefore, it was probably not safe for him to work with that weight without a spotter, as he probably couldn’t handle it well enough to attempt it when alone. That’s my guess.[/quote]

I always felt like that was more of PX’s bullshit. He claimed all these numbers, then when seen on vid he’s struggling with considerably less WITH band assistance. Yeah, I know he was “injured” and has “asthma” and it was “conditioning” and he’s “fat”, but it still reeked of bullshit. He’s the same guy who claimed there’s only a 5 or so pound difference between hammer strength and free weights…[/quote]

5lb diff between HS and free weight. Ha that’s a new gem[/quote]

His exact quote was “4-5 lb difference”, but he’s recently backtracked to a 10-20% difference. Still doesn’t explain his claim of benching 405 then struggling MIGHTILY with a band assisted 315. He also gripped the bar unevenly a few times, which I always found funny.[/quote]

I thought the same: how can he have a 405 bench if he struggled with a band assisted 315? Also judged this from the way he overhead pressed and the amount on that too (not that i judge people’s lifts but was wondering how he could have a 405 bench based on those two lifts.)
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Interesting. So because I was injured and haven’t done a bench press in a decade…you thought I should have been repping with 405 when we weren’t even focusing on strength training?

Strange that you think the way you do.

Considering I didn’t get to warm up before taping ad that was literally the first rep on a bench I had done in quite a while, it is strange you find fault in that.

A truly weak person wouldn’t have been using that first the first time doing the exercise in years…again not to mention CT was using similar weight…

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:
LoRez, you should seriously become a journalist. You have a true skill of bringing the truth to light.[/quote]

This actually played out a lot differently than I thought it would.

I tried to create an environment with this thread, for X and others, to seriously talk about their approach to ‘bulking’, without the constant “you’re doing it wrong” that was happening in the other threads. I actually think there was some good discussion between MassiveGuns, SteelyD, and BlueCollarTr8n, and I personally got some real value out of that discussion.

However, I actually thought X was going to bring something to the table here. I was hoping to get some real information from him. Really just trying to avoid all the petty BS and get to some actual content.

[b]But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.

Kinda crazy how that worked out.[/b][/quote]

Man if I was wizard I would bold those last two lines. This guy isn’t even part of possy is he ?
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There you go. I graduated with honors in wizardry.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
He was flown out to CO for the training videos but was inexplicably kept away from all of the other male trainees.[/quote]

He was having a hard enough time not getting lapped by the chicks… pairing him with synergy would’ve just been mean.[/quote]

?? I was flown to CO by myself. I wasn’t part of a group…so who was I kept away from?[/quote]

See, now, that was actually the part where you would have benefited from making sure you were completely caught up with the thread before responding.

Try again.[/quote]

Don’t care to keep up with the thread.

I got to meet Tim…who is a very intelligent business man. He is who told me he respected my posts here.

You can judge that anyway you want…but no one is flying you to CO based on casual writing on a message board alone…

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:
LoRez, you should seriously become a journalist. You have a true skill of bringing the truth to light.[/quote]

This actually played out a lot differently than I thought it would.

I tried to create an environment with this thread, for X and others, to seriously talk about their approach to ‘bulking’, without the constant “you’re doing it wrong” that was happening in the other threads. I actually think there was some good discussion between MassiveGuns, SteelyD, and BlueCollarTr8n, and I personally got some real value out of that discussion.

However, I actually thought X was going to bring something to the table here. I was hoping to get some real information from him. Really just trying to avoid all the petty BS and get to some actual content.

[b]But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.

Kinda crazy how that worked out.[/b][/quote]

Man if I was wizard I would bold those last two lines. This guy isn’t even part of possy is he ?
[/quote]
There you go. I graduated with honors in wizardry.[/quote]

…still trying to figure out how I have no medical training.

I think the patients I have seen today would beg to differ.

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Out of general interest, why didn’t CT let you warm up appropriately?

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[quote]RATTLEHEAD wrote:
Out of general interest, why didn’t CT let you warm up appropriately?[/quote]

Ask him. I didn’t even know what excercises we were doing before the tape was rolling…so with that in mind, I think I did damned good since strength was NOT his focus.

That is why we were using the weight we were on laterals. Hopefully people aren’t crazy enough to think that is all the weight I use for shoulders. You don’t build shoulders like this with light weight.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]LoRez wrote:

[quote]Myosin wrote:
LoRez, you should seriously become a journalist. You have a true skill of bringing the truth to light.[/quote]

This actually played out a lot differently than I thought it would.

I tried to create an environment with this thread, for X and others, to seriously talk about their approach to ‘bulking’, without the constant “you’re doing it wrong” that was happening in the other threads. I actually think there was some good discussion between MassiveGuns, SteelyD, and BlueCollarTr8n, and I personally got some real value out of that discussion.

However, I actually thought X was going to bring something to the table here. I was hoping to get some real information from him. Really just trying to avoid all the petty BS and get to some actual content.

[b]But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.

Kinda crazy how that worked out.[/b][/quote]

Man if I was wizard I would bold those last two lines. This guy isn’t even part of possy is he ?
[/quote]
There you go. I graduated with honors in wizardry.[/quote]

…still trying to figure out how I have no medical training.

I think the patients I have seen today would beg to differ.[/quote]
I’m just a wizard, mayne. I go where I’m needed.

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:
I’m just a wizard, mayne. I go where I’m needed.[/quote]

Cool.

May the force of David Blaine be with you.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I got to meet Tim…who is a very intelligent business man.[/quote]

LOL… ya think? What a surprise, that the founder of an extremely successful, multi-million-dollar supplement company and website could be considered to be an intelligent business man.

And here I was thinking he pulled his business model out of a box of Cracker Jacks or something.

Mind filling me in on whether or not Michael Jordan was any good at basketball, while you’re at it? Do you think Garry Kasparov knows what to do with a rook from time to time?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
He is who told me he respected my posts here.[/quote]

Ya know, it’s funny that, for someone who once wrote that he doesn’t care what people on this site think about him, you sure as shit didn’t miss the opportunity to shoehorn a comment about how cool other people think you are into this exchange.

But then, there are ALSO a lot of very intelligent people here who think you are a complete clown. Soo… cool story, I guess?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You can judge that anyway you want…but no one is flying you to CO based on casual writing on a message board alone…[/quote]

Oh, you. Just give me another six years and 45k posts, maybe even subtract a social life (oh, I forgot, you “barely post” anymore), and we will see what happens.

But, it must be deeply satisfying to know that your 10+ year, 50k post stint on this site has, against all odds, culminated in a legacy more remarkable than just a substantial portion of the site (including two of the most congenial and patient posters in the whole wide word of all time) viewing your presence in any given thread solely through an ego-shattering kaleidoscope of pity, contempt and disgust.

You are also one of the people who got… to ride an airplane for free.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I got to meet Tim…who is a very intelligent business man.[/quote]

LOL… ya think? What a surprise, that the founder of an extremely successful, multi-million-dollar supplement company and website could be considered to be an intelligent business man.

And here I was thinking he pulled his business model out of a box of Cracker Jacks or something.

Mind filling me in on whether or not Michael Jordan was any good at basketball, while you’re at it? Do you think Garry Kasparov knows what to do with a rook from time to time?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
He is who told me he respected my posts here.[/quote]

Ya know, it’s funny that, for someone who once wrote that he doesn’t care what people on this site think about him, you sure as shit didn’t miss the opportunity to shoehorn a comment about how cool other people think you are into this exchange.

But then, there are ALSO a lot of very intelligent people here who think you are a complete clown. Soo… cool story, I guess?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You can judge that anyway you want…but no one is flying you to CO based on casual writing on a message board alone…[/quote]

Oh, you. Just give me another six years and 45k posts, maybe even subtract a social life (oh, I forgot, you “barely post” anymore), and we will see what happens.

But, it must be deeply satisfying to know that your 10+ year, 50k post stint on this site has, against all odds, culminated in a legacy more remarkable than just a substantial portion of the site (including two of the most congenial and patient posters in the whole wide word of all time) viewing your presence in any given thread solely through an ego-shattering kaleidoscope of pity, contempt and disgust.

You are also one of the people who got… to ride an airplane for free.[/quote]

All of this is basically bullshit.

I am here to discuss lifting weights. Guys like you are here to discuss me.

Deal with it and move on. I have my life handled. I don’t need your help with that. I’m doing just fine.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I got to meet Tim…who is a very intelligent business man.[/quote]

LOL… ya think? What a surprise, that the founder of an extremely successful, multi-million-dollar supplement company and website could be considered to be an intelligent business man.

And here I was thinking he pulled his business model out of a box of Cracker Jacks or something.

Mind filling me in on whether or not Michael Jordan was any good at basketball, while you’re at it? Do you think Garry Kasparov knows what to do with a rook from time to time?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
He is who told me he respected my posts here.[/quote]

Ya know, it’s funny that, for someone who once wrote that he doesn’t care what people on this site think about him, you sure as shit didn’t miss the opportunity to shoehorn a comment about how cool other people think you are into this exchange.

But then, there are ALSO a lot of very intelligent people here who think you are a complete clown. Soo… cool story, I guess?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You can judge that anyway you want…but no one is flying you to CO based on casual writing on a message board alone…[/quote]

Oh, you. Just give me another six years and 45k posts, maybe even subtract a social life (oh, I forgot, you “barely post” anymore), and we will see what happens.

But, it must be deeply satisfying to know that your 10+ year, 50k post stint on this site has, against all odds, culminated in a legacy more remarkable than just a substantial portion of the site (including two of the most congenial and patient posters in the whole wide word of all time) viewing your presence in any given thread solely through an ego-shattering kaleidoscope of pity, contempt and disgust.

You are also one of the people who got… to ride an airplane for free.[/quote]

Damn.

LOL

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I got to meet Tim…who is a very intelligent business man.[/quote]

LOL… ya think? What a surprise, that the founder of an extremely successful, multi-million-dollar supplement company and website could be considered to be an intelligent business man.

And here I was thinking he pulled his business model out of a box of Cracker Jacks or something.

Mind filling me in on whether or not Michael Jordan was any good at basketball, while you’re at it? Do you think Garry Kasparov knows what to do with a rook from time to time?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
He is who told me he respected my posts here.[/quote]

Ya know, it’s funny that, for someone who once wrote that he doesn’t care what people on this site think about him, you sure as shit didn’t miss the opportunity to shoehorn a comment about how cool other people think you are into this exchange.

But then, there are ALSO a lot of very intelligent people here who think you are a complete clown. Soo… cool story, I guess?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You can judge that anyway you want…but no one is flying you to CO based on casual writing on a message board alone…[/quote]

Oh, you. Just give me another six years and 45k posts, maybe even subtract a social life (oh, I forgot, you “barely post” anymore), and we will see what happens.

But, it must be deeply satisfying to know that your 10+ year, 50k post stint on this site has, against all odds, culminated in a legacy more remarkable than just a substantial portion of the site (including two of the most congenial and patient posters in the whole wide word of all time) viewing your presence in any given thread solely through an ego-shattering kaleidoscope of pity, contempt and disgust.

You are also one of the people who got… to ride an airplane for free.[/quote]

All of this is basically bullshit.

I am here to discuss lifting weights. Guys like you are here to discuss me.

Deal with it and move on. I have my life handled. I don’t need your help with that. I’m doing just fine.[/quote]
I think you just can’t handle annotated bibliography’s post

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Interesting. So because I was injured and haven’t done a bench press in a decade…you thought I should have been repping with 405 when we weren’t even focusing on strength training?

Strange that you think the way you do.

Considering I didn’t get to warm up before taping ad that was literally the first rep on a bench I had done in quite a while, it is strange you find fault in that.

A truly weak person wouldn’t have been using that first the first time doing the exercise in years…again not to mention CT was using similar weight…[/quote]
Come on now guys seriously. There’s nothing here to take issue with.

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Also note that X doesn’t post on weekends. More evidence he’s a conglomerate of Biotest peeps. [/quote]

He’s usually on Saturday mornings and early afternoon. [/quote]

I’m just havin some fun with this whole conspiracy theory angle man =/

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Interesting. So because I was injured and haven’t done a bench press in a decade…you thought I should have been repping with 405 when we weren’t even focusing on strength training?

Strange that you think the way you do.

Considering I didn’t get to warm up before taping ad that was literally the first rep on a bench I had done in quite a while, it is strange you find fault in that.

A truly weak person wouldn’t have been using that first the first time doing the exercise in years…again not to mention CT was using similar weight…[/quote]
Come on now guys seriously. There’s nothing here to take issue with.[/quote]

You should know by now that they aren’t taking issue with anything written. They are just mad because I wrote it.

They will ignore that and keep up with the insults and passive aggressive behavior.

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Also, Csulli, good work on the biceps.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I am here to discuss lifting weights. Guys like you are here to discuss me.

Deal with it and move on. I have my life handled. I don’t need your help with that. I’m doing just fine.[/quote]

pssssh yea! Why wouldn’t we want to discuss YOU? You are the biggest mofo here and we’re all secretly jelly.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I got to meet Tim…who is a very intelligent business man.[/quote]

LOL… ya think? What a surprise, that the founder of an extremely successful, multi-million-dollar supplement company and website could be considered to be an intelligent business man.

And here I was thinking he pulled his business model out of a box of Cracker Jacks or something.

Mind filling me in on whether or not Michael Jordan was any good at basketball, while you’re at it? Do you think Garry Kasparov knows what to do with a rook from time to time?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
He is who told me he respected my posts here.[/quote]

Ya know, it’s funny that, for someone who once wrote that he doesn’t care what people on this site think about him, you sure as shit didn’t miss the opportunity to shoehorn a comment about how cool other people think you are into this exchange.

But then, there are ALSO a lot of very intelligent people here who think you are a complete clown. Soo… cool story, I guess?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You can judge that anyway you want…but no one is flying you to CO based on casual writing on a message board alone…[/quote]

Oh, you. Just give me another six years and 45k posts, maybe even subtract a social life (oh, I forgot, you “barely post” anymore), and we will see what happens.

But, it must be deeply satisfying to know that your 10+ year, 50k post stint on this site has, against all odds, culminated in a legacy more remarkable than just a substantial portion of the site (including two of the most congenial and patient posters in the whole wide word of all time) viewing your presence in any given thread solely through an ego-shattering kaleidoscope of pity, contempt and disgust.

You are also one of the people who got… to ride an airplane for free.[/quote]

Damn, anonym, that was well written!

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[quote]jskrabac wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

I am here to discuss lifting weights. Guys like you are here to discuss me.

Deal with it and move on. I have my life handled. I don’t need your help with that. I’m doing just fine.[/quote]

pssssh yea! Why wouldn’t we want to discuss YOU? You are the biggest mofo here and we’re all secretly jelly. [/quote]

You must be “secretly something” to spend this much time NOT discussing the topics and focusing on every fault you c an find in every post I write.

I mean, seriously…what is the goal of the guys acting like you?

You really plan to keep this up in every thread I write in forever?

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Also, notice I haven’t even been online since Saturday and all some of you have come here for is to troll the thread.

Acting like I am making you do it is retarded.