Okay it was funny at first, but if you TRULY believe that X is some kind of Biotest undercover agent, you’re an idiot. Elvis is dead, the government isn’t putting mind control drugs in the water supply, and 911 wasn’t an inside job.
The pyramids were built by aliens though obviously.
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
I don’t think X’s bench performance in Colorado is all that surprising, the dude hadn’t benched in years.
[/quote]
Yes, but there is a certain “look” to someone- their form, and the way their body moves - that give cues as to what they’ve done and what they’re capable of. The trained eye can see this. [/quote]
I consider my eye pretty trained
I dunno, I just think it’s fairly reasonable to assume that if you haven’t benched in years that you’d be a shadow of your former self when you tried it. Not to mention it must make you fairly nervous benching with CT on camera knowing that everyone who uses the site’ll see it. That could throw you off your game a bit too. Plus there’s those injuries to consider…
I’m not trying to speak on X’s behalf or anything (lol, can you imagine?) but I don’t think the bench thing is all that big a deal.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I thought the same: how can he have a 405 bench if he struggled with a band assisted 315?[/quote]
Can’t this just be, at least in part, a consequence of years and years of relying on machines instead of free weights for compound movements?
When using instruments that lock you into fixed movement patterns, isn’t it expected that the ancillary muscles that would otherwise be fighting to stabilize the weight would likely become less efficient at that task?
Can’t the difficulty found when switching back to free weights be the byproduct of a loss of coordination combined with a decrease in force output due to a perceived awkward novelty of the movement by the supporting musculature?
I mean, I thought this sort of phenomenon was commonly mentioned when discussions of “functional” training crop up.
If you add in the injuries (though I don’t know what they are off the top of my head) and the likelihood that he was already fatigued from other exercises, doesn’t this give a fairly plausible scenario that explains why his performance didn’t live up to expectations? Though would I be incorrect in believing that the band would help with stabilizing the weight to a degree?
I really don’t have too great of an idea as I am not riddled with injuries that would have killed mortal men and don’t rely almost exclusively on machines, so I’ve never experienced that sort of thing firsthand.[/quote]
yes[/quote]
this is basically what I was trying to say with my post…
[quote]Myosin wrote:
LoRez, you should seriously become a journalist. You have a true skill of bringing the truth to light.[/quote]
This actually played out a lot differently than I thought it would.
I tried to create an environment with this thread, for X and others, to seriously talk about their approach to ‘bulking’, without the constant “you’re doing it wrong” that was happening in the other threads. I actually think there was some good discussion between MassiveGuns, SteelyD, and BlueCollarTr8n, and I personally got some real value out of that discussion.
However, I actually thought X was going to bring something to the table here. I was hoping to get some real information from him. Really just trying to avoid all the petty BS and get to some actual content.
But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.
Kinda crazy how that worked out.
[quote]steven alex wrote:
First off, I know someone who I love more than anyone else in the world who has asthma and I have witnessed close up his anxiety that his current hard fought for breath might be his last so to mock PX’s efforts in CO regards his performance CONDITIONING wise isnt fair IMO.
I don’t know much about the geography of America as to be frank I dont know much about America in general but what I do know from reading on here that CO is very high above sea level which can cause a lot of difficulty to those with breathing problems.
I don’t like the guy and I don’t know what he brings to the site but knocking him on his CO performance regards his conditioning in light of his asthma has little merit in my opinion.
[/quote]
How does someone with asthma that bad even get into the military? This is a serious question. I’ve heard of several people who were denied enlistment because of it.
[quote]rds63799 wrote:
.[/quote]
Mr. Golding is my favourite author LOL.
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
How does someone with asthma that bad even get into the military? This is a serious question. I’ve heard of several people who were denied enlistment because of it.[/quote]
You lie to the recruiter.
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Myosin wrote:
LoRez, you should seriously become a journalist. You have a true skill of bringing the truth to light.[/quote]
This actually played out a lot differently than I thought it would.
I tried to create an environment with this thread, for X and others, to seriously talk about their approach to ‘bulking’, without the constant “you’re doing it wrong” that was happening in the other threads. I actually think there was some good discussion between MassiveGuns, SteelyD, and BlueCollarTr8n, and I personally got some real value out of that discussion.
However, I actually thought X was going to bring something to the table here. I was hoping to get some real information from him. Really just trying to avoid all the petty BS and get to some actual content.
But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.
Kinda crazy how that worked out.[/quote]
Man if I was wizard I would bold those last two lines. This guy isn’t even part of possy is he ?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.
[/quote]
I was with you until you said this. That’s asinine.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]SteelyD wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Anyway, I won’t leave you hangin big guy
[/quote]
Thanks, man!
To be clear, my reference to Waylander was not meant to disparage him at all. Great guy. He has helped me here and outside of these boards. Nothing but admiration and respect for him.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
There some people who can keep up thank god[/quote]
RyanC -
Wow.
Yes, your intellect is far superior to mine.
Talk about a bitchy little e-dude… mee-yowww[/quote]
Lol yep I am a bitch[/quote]
Oh yes.
Yes you are. mee-yowww
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I thought the same: how can he have a 405 bench if he struggled with a band assisted 315?[/quote]
Can’t this just be, at least in part, a consequence of years and years of relying on machines instead of free weights for compound movements?
When using instruments that lock you into fixed movement patterns, isn’t it expected that the ancillary muscles that would otherwise be fighting to stabilize the weight would likely become less efficient at that task?
Can’t the difficulty found when switching back to free weights be the byproduct of a loss of coordination combined with a decrease in force output due to a perceived awkward novelty of the movement by the supporting musculature?
I mean, I thought this sort of phenomenon was commonly mentioned when discussions of “functional” training crop up.
If you add in the injuries (though I don’t know what they are off the top of my head) and the likelihood that he was already fatigued from other exercises, doesn’t this give a fairly plausible scenario that explains why his performance didn’t live up to expectations? Though would I be incorrect in believing that the band would help with stabilizing the weight to a degree?
I really don’t have too great of an idea as I am not riddled with injuries that would have killed mortal men and don’t rely almost exclusively on machines, so I’ve never experienced that sort of thing firsthand.[/quote]
Yeah, I have no doubt PX benched 405+ at some point. But I don’t know anyone in the lifting community (BB’er, PL’er, etc) who uses machines for 80% of their lifting. [/quote]
Then you don’t know many with injuries. I used free weights for most of my early training. Not sure why this matters.
It would seem that some are just focusing on things to criticize. Your results matter, not which exercise you did unless in powerlifting.
I also have written more times than I can count that I was injured when in CO…not to mention that CT was using similar weights but no one is calling him weak.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
How does someone with asthma that bad even get into the military? This is a serious question. I’ve heard of several people who were denied enlistment because of it.[/quote]
You lie to the recruiter.[/quote]
Wait…asthma that needs no medication unless in high altitudes requires you to be kept out of the military?
WTF?
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]Myosin wrote:
LoRez, you should seriously become a journalist. You have a true skill of bringing the truth to light.[/quote]
This actually played out a lot differently than I thought it would.
I tried to create an environment with this thread, for X and others, to seriously talk about their approach to ‘bulking’, without the constant “you’re doing it wrong” that was happening in the other threads. I actually think there was some good discussion between MassiveGuns, SteelyD, and BlueCollarTr8n, and I personally got some real value out of that discussion.
However, I actually thought X was going to bring something to the table here. I was hoping to get some real information from him. Really just trying to avoid all the petty BS and get to some actual content.
But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.
Kinda crazy how that worked out.[/quote]
I have no medical education?
You asked no specific questions at all. What are you talking about?
[quote]flipcollar wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
But, I didn’t realize X actually had no medical education.
[/quote]
I was with you until you said this. That’s asinine.[/quote]
Bingo.
I have also gone over info on my approach in that “Professor X request” thread. Why would I need to rewrite it here when it was discussed for over 6 years ion one thread?
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
He was flown out to CO for the training videos but was inexplicably kept away from all of the other male trainees.[/quote]
He was having a hard enough time not getting lapped by the chicks… pairing him with synergy would’ve just been mean.[/quote]
?? I was flown to CO by myself. I wasn’t part of a group…so who was I kept away from?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]BrickHead wrote:
I thought the same: how can he have a 405 bench if he struggled with a band assisted 315?[/quote]
Can’t this just be, at least in part, a consequence of years and years of relying on machines instead of free weights for compound movements?
When using instruments that lock you into fixed movement patterns, isn’t it expected that the ancillary muscles that would otherwise be fighting to stabilize the weight would likely become less efficient at that task?
Can’t the difficulty found when switching back to free weights be the byproduct of a loss of coordination combined with a decrease in force output due to a perceived awkward novelty of the movement by the supporting musculature?
I mean, I thought this sort of phenomenon was commonly mentioned when discussions of “functional” training crop up.
If you add in the injuries (though I don’t know what they are off the top of my head) and the likelihood that he was already fatigued from other exercises, doesn’t this give a fairly plausible scenario that explains why his performance didn’t live up to expectations? Though would I be incorrect in believing that the band would help with stabilizing the weight to a degree?
I really don’t have too great of an idea as I am not riddled with injuries that would have killed mortal men and don’t rely almost exclusively on machines, so I’ve never experienced that sort of thing firsthand.[/quote]
Yeah, I have no doubt PX benched 405+ at some point. But I don’t know anyone in the lifting community (BB’er, PL’er, etc) who uses machines for 80% of their lifting. [/quote]
Then you don’t know many with injuries. I used free weights for most of my early training. Not sure why this matters.
It would seem that some are just focusing on things to criticize. Your results matter, not which exercise you did unless in powerlifting.
I also have written more times than I can count that I was injured when in CO…not to mention that CT was using similar weights but no one is calling him weak.[/quote]
X2 on the injuries! A good friend and guy I work out with frequently or used to until he had rotator cuff sugery 6 weeks ago is in the same boat injury wise. He does what free weights he can, but to stay in the gym and progressing machines are his bread and butter. And he is a big ass dude.
[quote]csulli wrote:
The pyramids were built by aliens though obviously.[/quote]
look up Leedskalnin
[quote]Bauber wrote:
X2 on the injuries! A good friend and guy I work out with frequently or used to until he had rotator cuff sugery 6 weeks ago is in the same boat injury wise. He does what free weights he can, but to stay in the gym and progressing machines are his bread and butter. And he is a big ass dude.[/quote]
\Thank you. It is strange getting criticized on what I use to workout. Obviously it is working…so why would they have an issue with it?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]anonym wrote:
[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
He was flown out to CO for the training videos but was inexplicably kept away from all of the other male trainees.[/quote]
He was having a hard enough time not getting lapped by the chicks… pairing him with synergy would’ve just been mean.[/quote]
?? I was flown to CO by myself. I wasn’t part of a group…so who was I kept away from?[/quote]
See, now, that was actually the part where you would have benefited from making sure you were completely caught up with the thread before responding.
Try again.
