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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not trying to put words in Ryans’ keyboard, but Bauber said he plans to come in around 240 on stage. Assuming that’s accurate, dropping from a top weight of 319 (I think), is an 80lb cut. That is completely unnecessary, specifically for someone using assistance. He could’ve achieved similar results by reigning it in staying leaner, and saving himself a TON of extra work he now has to do to get contest ready. Also, I don’t mean any of this as a dig at Bauber. He comes across as cool guy who obviously knows his way around the weightroom.[/quote]

I put on more fat this year than I had planned to. Went through a lot of depression this year and depression for me makes me want to eat A LOT. Have been through 8 months of grief counseling and it is finally starting to get better. I don’t wish losing a loved one on my worst enemy, especially not the love of your life. For my body type that type of stress and mental grief wreaks havoc on my body staving fat off. Not an excuse by any means just reality and now I have more work to do by losing more fat that I had wanted to.

6 months out of the last year I was off all assistance of any kind. I didn’t lose much strength per say or size, but I definitely got softer and packed on more fat. Been back on for about a month now and definitely seeing body composition changing for the better. My goal from now on is to keep abs visible year round to keep dieting difficulty down.

Not here to get into any he said this and he said that. Just here to offer what I can and pick up advice and information along the way. Have I packed on a ton of strength and muscle in the past 4 years? For me, you bet. Too much fat too? You bet. Life is about the journey, growing and realizing your mistakes and how to change things for the better. Has my path been ideal? No, but it is my path and the person I am today is a culmination of all the shit I have done and been through, good and bad.[/quote]

I’m sorry man, I know how it is to lose a loved one. And it’s amazing you’ve gotten through that in any way, let alone dominating this whole lifting thing the way you have.

I hope you don’t think in any way I’ve belittled or insulted your progress (as you know I’m a fan of your log). You’re just a big dude who has accomplished a lot, while being extremely humble and open, it’s easy to use you as an example when needing an advanced lifter lol.

Glad we got guys like you posting here.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not trying to put words in Ryans’ keyboard, but Bauber said he plans to come in around 240 on stage. Assuming that’s accurate, dropping from a top weight of 319 (I think), is an 80lb cut. That is completely unnecessary, specifically for someone using assistance. He could’ve achieved similar results by reigning it in staying leaner, and saving himself a TON of extra work he now has to do to get contest ready. Also, I don’t mean any of this as a dig at Bauber. He comes across as cool guy who obviously knows his way around the weightroom.[/quote]

I put on more fat this year than I had planned to. Went through a lot of depression this year and depression for me makes me want to eat A LOT. Have been through 8 months of grief counseling and it is finally starting to get better. I don’t wish losing a loved one on my worst enemy, especially not the love of your life. For my body type that type of stress and mental grief wreaks havoc on my body staving fat off. Not an excuse by any means just reality and now I have more work to do by losing more fat that I had wanted to.

6 months out of the last year I was off all assistance of any kind. I didn’t lose much strength per say or size, but I definitely got softer and packed on more fat. Been back on for about a month now and definitely seeing body composition changing for the better. My goal from now on is to keep abs visible year round to keep dieting difficulty down.

Not here to get into any he said this and he said that. Just here to offer what I can and pick up advice and information along the way. Have I packed on a ton of strength and muscle in the past 4 years? For me, you bet. Too much fat too? You bet. Life is about the journey, growing and realizing your mistakes and how to change things for the better. Has my path been ideal? No, but it is my path and the person I am today is a culmination of all the shit I have done and been through, good and bad.[/quote]

I’m sorry man, I know how it is to lose a loved one. And it’s amazing you’ve gotten through that in any way, let alone dominating this whole lifting thing the way you have.

I hope you don’t think in any way I’ve belittled or insulted your progress (as you know I’m a fan of your log). You’re just a big dude who has accomplished a lot, while being extremely humble and open, it’s easy to use you as an example when needing an advanced lifter lol.

Glad we got guys like you posting here. [/quote]

I have enjoyed your postings and comments. They have been nothing but respectful and you speaking your mind. And many thanks for following and the compliments. I’ve been following your progress too. Keep it up bro!

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[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Am I the only one who has considered the possibility that PX’s account is managed by SEVERAL Biotest employees?

It explains:

  1. ultra-high frequency of posts
  2. inconsistencies from post to post
  3. the tone of the posts aimed at encouraging people to re-read earlier parts of the thread or other threads to generate more traffic to the site
  4. the idiocy of the posts aimed at convincing people they must do the opposite of what he says and go buy all the supps they can in an effort to make the leanest gainz possible (i.e. do i have to remind you this is the guy who endorses pre-fatiguing triceps before chest pressing work in order to make sure your CHEST gets worked harder)

Like I’m sure one of them is the big guy always posing with his tank top right after a carbed up pump workout in the bathroom’s flattering down lighting we always see in his avi, but there’s more to it. ONE man is not capable of getting under the skin of so many respected posters for so long!![/quote]
lol that’s been stated before[/quote]
Some variation of this is basically accepted as fact these days.
Prof X is an entity of this board.
He has become self aware.
No one is safe.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:
Many thanks rds and to all of you guys. I nearly gave up lifting and everything after losing her. She was my main source of inspiration for competing and really did so much for me (cooking all my meals, having my shakes ready for the day, being my number 1 fan, and always believing in me not matter what) I was lost when she was gone.[/quote]
:frowning:

I’m glad you pulled yourself out of it and managed to keep going. I hope it’s not offensive or insensitive of me to say that I’m sure she wouldn’t have wanted you to give up on it. Not just anybody is able to come back from that kind of adversity.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Many thanks rds and to all of you guys. I nearly gave up lifting and everything after losing her. She was my main source of inspiration for competing and really did so much for me (cooking all my meals, having my shakes ready for the day, being my number 1 fan, and always believing in me not matter what) I was lost when she was gone.[/quote]
:frowning:

I’m glad you pulled yourself out of it and managed to keep going. I hope it’s not offensive or insensitive of me to say that I’m sure she wouldn’t have wanted you to give up on it. Not just anybody is able to come back from that kind of adversity.[/quote]

Not offensive or insensitive at all. She would kick my ass and tell me my ass was getting fat in a heartbeat if she could! She was brutally honest, but always had my best interest at heart. Really hard to find a woman like that. Me too wallowing in pity and grief is a shitty
Place to be.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Many thanks rds and to all of you guys. I nearly gave up lifting and everything after losing her. She was my main source of inspiration for competing and really did so much for me (cooking all my meals, having my shakes ready for the day, being my number 1 fan, and always believing in me not matter what) I was lost when she was gone.[/quote]
:frowning:

I’m glad you pulled yourself out of it and managed to keep going. I hope it’s not offensive or insensitive of me to say that I’m sure she wouldn’t have wanted you to give up on it. Not just anybody is able to come back from that kind of adversity.[/quote]

Not offensive or insensitive at all. She would kick my ass and tell me my ass was getting fat in a heartbeat if she could! She was brutally honest, but always had my best interest at heart. Really hard to find a woman like that. Me too wallowing in pity and grief is a shitty
Place to be.[/quote]
I’m truely sorry about your loss big man.
You’re a very welcomed addition to these boards and are a breath of fresh air.
It’s nice to have a really big guy who knows what he’s doing that we can get some useful info from.
Sorry again.
Way to keep fighting through the tough times.
I’m sure most wouldn’t be able to get through that and keep on training hard and getting huge.
Good on ya big man.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:
Many thanks rds and to all of you guys. I nearly gave up lifting and everything after losing her. She was my main source of inspiration for competing and really did so much for me (cooking all my meals, having my shakes ready for the day, being my number 1 fan, and always believing in me not matter what) I was lost when she was gone.[/quote]
:frowning:

I’m glad you pulled yourself out of it and managed to keep going. I hope it’s not offensive or insensitive of me to say that I’m sure she wouldn’t have wanted you to give up on it. Not just anybody is able to come back from that kind of adversity.[/quote]

Not offensive or insensitive at all. She would kick my ass and tell me my ass was getting fat in a heartbeat if she could! She was brutally honest, but always had my best interest at heart. Really hard to find a woman like that. Me too wallowing in pity and grief is a shitty
Place to be.[/quote]
I’m truely sorry about your loss big man.
You’re a very welcomed addition to these boards and are a breath of fresh air.
It’s nice to have a really big guy who knows what he’s doing that we can get some useful info from.
Sorry again.
Way to keep fighting through the tough times.
I’m sure most wouldn’t be able to get through that and keep on training hard and getting huge.
Good on ya big man.[/quote]
Man…just got caught up on this and Agree with all.I’m happy to see you pushing threw big guy.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Don’t just behave like an anti-dentite.

S[/quote]

I love the personal attacks…when the stance can’t be defended.
[/quote]

yer like we have never seen YOU do this many times before…

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.

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[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Am I the only one who has considered the possibility that PX’s account is managed by SEVERAL Biotest employees?

It explains:

  1. ultra-high frequency of posts
  2. inconsistencies from post to post
  3. the tone of the posts aimed at encouraging people to re-read earlier parts of the thread or other threads to generate more traffic to the site
  4. the idiocy of the posts aimed at convincing people they must do the opposite of what he says and go buy all the supps they can in an effort to make the leanest gainz possible (i.e. do i have to remind you this is the guy who endorses pre-fatiguing triceps before chest pressing work in order to make sure your CHEST gets worked harder)

Like I’m sure one of them is the big guy always posing with his tank top right after a carbed up pump workout in the bathroom’s flattering down lighting we always see in his avi, but there’s more to it. ONE man is not capable of getting under the skin of so many respected posters for so long!![/quote]

i really am starting to think this aswell.

no one can really be this narcissistic, arrogant and such a deadest prick. but the thing that actually makes me believe this the most is the inconsistent posting styles.

in one thread X pointed out a floor in my argument by saying something along the lines of “no you missed read what i said doofus, i was referring to blah blah”. in another thread we where arguing the same topic but without even addressing my arguements hes response was along the lines of “seriously kid post some pictures, if you shut the fuck up long enough you might learn something”. either X gets some weird form of man period, or there might actually be someone else posting.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:
Not trying to put words in Ryans’ keyboard, but Bauber said he plans to come in around 240 on stage. Assuming that’s accurate, dropping from a top weight of 319 (I think), is an 80lb cut. That is completely unnecessary, specifically for someone using assistance. He could’ve achieved similar results by reigning it in staying leaner, and saving himself a TON of extra work he now has to do to get contest ready. Also, I don’t mean any of this as a dig at Bauber. He comes across as cool guy who obviously knows his way around the weightroom.[/quote]

I put on more fat this year than I had planned to. Went through a lot of depression this year and depression for me makes me want to eat A LOT. Have been through 8 months of grief counseling and it is finally starting to get better. I don’t wish losing a loved one on my worst enemy, especially not the love of your life. For my body type that type of stress and mental grief wreaks havoc on my body staving fat off. Not an excuse by any means just reality and now I have more work to do by losing more fat that I had wanted to.

6 months out of the last year I was off all assistance of any kind. I didn’t lose much strength per say or size, but I definitely got softer and packed on more fat. Been back on for about a month now and definitely seeing body composition changing for the better. My goal from now on is to keep abs visible year round to keep dieting difficulty down.

Not here to get into any he said this and he said that. Just here to offer what I can and pick up advice and information along the way. Have I packed on a ton of strength and muscle in the past 4 years? For me, you bet. Too much fat too? You bet. Life is about the journey, growing and realizing your mistakes and how to change things for the better. Has my path been ideal? No, but it is my path and the person I am today is a culmination of all the shit I have done and been through, good and bad.[/quote]

Congrats for pushing through and getting help. Many feel they are too proud or manly to do that When the opposite is true. I have gone through streaks like that as well certianly for nothing as serious. You will be a better person because of the hardships. I wish you all the best

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[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.[/quote]

Somebody is catching on

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Really sorry to hear about your lose, Bauber.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]spar4tee wrote:

[quote]jskrabac wrote:
Am I the only one who has considered the possibility that PX’s account is managed by SEVERAL Biotest employees?

It explains:

  1. ultra-high frequency of posts
  2. inconsistencies from post to post
  3. the tone of the posts aimed at encouraging people to re-read earlier parts of the thread or other threads to generate more traffic to the site
  4. the idiocy of the posts aimed at convincing people they must do the opposite of what he says and go buy all the supps they can in an effort to make the leanest gainz possible (i.e. do i have to remind you this is the guy who endorses pre-fatiguing triceps before chest pressing work in order to make sure your CHEST gets worked harder)

Like I’m sure one of them is the big guy always posing with his tank top right after a carbed up pump workout in the bathroom’s flattering down lighting we always see in his avi, but there’s more to it. ONE man is not capable of getting under the skin of so many respected posters for so long!![/quote]
lol that’s been stated before[/quote]
Some variation of this is basically accepted as fact these days.
Prof X is an entity of this board.
He has become self aware.
No one is safe.[/quote]

It’s telling (to me at least) that neither PX or Biotest has denied this.

Bauber, I didn’t mean to single you out or speak of you in disparaging terms. Someone was using your name to further his argument, so I continued with topic. I have also gone through losing the one closest to me. You seem to have a handle on your situation. Keep your head up and keep kickin’ ass, brother.

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Hahaha wtf is going on here with the fullhouse conspiracy theorists coming out all the sudden? Lol

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Hahaha wtf is going on here with the fullhouse conspiracy theorists coming out all the sudden? Lol[/quote]

I’m not saying I believe that PX is several people. I personally think he’s just one fat, delusional asshole. I’m just saying that neither he norBiotest has even attempted to deny the accusation. That’s strange to me.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Hahaha wtf is going on here with the fullhouse conspiracy theorists coming out all the sudden? Lol[/quote]

I’m not saying I believe that PX is several people. I personally think he’s just one fat, delusional asshole. I’m just saying that neither he norBiotest has even attempted to deny the accusation. That’s strange to me.[/quote]
Ill admit I laughed at the fat delusional a hole part. Funny phrase.

This isn’t something new.
Maybe he isn’t working for the site but if I had to put money on it I would say that he is.
He has been with the site from the beginning.
He has beenade a mod.
They basically made him his own sub forum.
His antics have ran off MANY very valuable posters.
Have you read what is said about this place on other boards because of X?
He has even started getting after two of the most well liked and respected posters on this forum: Stu and Collucci.
He turns thread after thread after thread into the same arguments.
He was flown out to CO for the training videos but was inexplicably kept away from all of the other male trainees.

I think it is only one poster like flash but that he is either employed by the site or a part owner.
He is here to keep clicks, views and traffic up.
SEO 101
The board needs to be at the top of google searches to get more new viewers.
New viewers = more potential supplement sales.
After all this forum and site are free.
The funding to run this site comes from supp sales.
If I was running the site I would probably do the same sort of thing.
It’s a business.
Maybe I’m wrong but I doubt it.
I doubt this post will stay up very long lol

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[quote]csulli wrote:
Hahaha wtf is going on here with the fullhouse conspiracy theorists coming out all the sudden? Lol[/quote]

The Grassy Knoll gets killer WiFi reception this time of year.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
He was flown out to CO for the training videos but was inexplicably kept away from all of the other male trainees.[/quote]

He was having a hard enough time not getting lapped by the chicks… pairing him with synergy would’ve just been mean.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.[/quote]

Somebody is catching on[/quote]

I would love to hear all about Waylander’s natural, unassisted journey to huge while staying relatively lean.