How to 'Bulk' For Naturals

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.[/quote]

Somebody is catching on[/quote]

I would love to hear all about Waylander’s natural, unassisted journey to huge while staying relatively lean.

[/quote]
I think they were comparing Waylander to Bauber if I’m not mistaken.
They are equal nattys

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.[/quote]

Somebody is catching on[/quote]

I would love to hear all about Waylander’s natural, unassisted journey to huge while staying relatively lean.

[/quote]

Oh but it’s ok to use Bauer ?

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I can see the employed by Biotest angle. I had never thought about that until you (and others) began discussing it semi-recently. Admittedly, it makes sense.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.[/quote]

Somebody is catching on[/quote]

I would love to hear all about Waylander’s natural, unassisted journey to huge while staying relatively lean.

[/quote]
I think they were comparing Waylander to Bauber if I’m not mistaken.
They are equal nattys[/quote]

There some people who can keep up thank god

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]ryan.b_96 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Ridiculous. On a site like this, a guy the size of Bauber can get some guy the size of Ryan telling him he got too fat…when I don’t see anyone else that size who didn’t bulk up.

trying to defend that with more personal attacks is just crazy.[/quote]

Lol yes you have to bulk up to gain that much fat so I agree there. Pure does not equal muscle. We will see what happens when he diets for the show. [/quote]

It isn’t about the fat. It is about the muscle he built.

I have asked you before who on this site has gotten even near that big without bulking up.

There doesn’t seem to be anyone.

If that is what is producing big guys that size in majority…why would you claim it is “too much”?[/quote]

waylander got to near that size while remaining significantly leaner.[/quote]

Somebody is catching on[/quote]

I would love to hear all about Waylander’s natural, unassisted journey to huge while staying relatively lean.

[/quote]

Oh but it’s ok to use Bauer ?
[/quote]

I don’t fight PX’s battle, that’s a question you’ll have to ask him. However, if you want to be taken seriiously and you’re going to try to play the objective, logical poster and be TN Forum’s poster boy for lean gains, then you maybe shouldn’t encourage the use of poor examples for young naive guys like the other Ryan. No? If you’re going to do the same shit you complain that PX does, then why shouldn’t you be castigated for the same?

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That’s right, bitchez, I used the word “castigated” in a sentence.

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From MW:

“BIG (adj.) - Fat. (Sure I could drop the fat and water and walk around like a twink with abs, but no thanks – I prefer to be big.)”

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:
I don’t fight PX’s battle, that’s a question you’ll have to ask him. However, if you want to be taken seriiously and you’re going to try to play the objective, logical poster and be TN Forum’s poster boy for lean gains, then you maybe shouldn’t encourage the use of poor examples for young naive guys like the other Ryan. No? If you’re going to do the same shit you complain that PX does, then why shouldn’t you be castigated for the same?

[/quote]
Not addressing any PX issues here:
Waylander was brought up as a comparison to Bauber.
They both got up to around the same body weight with a small height difference I believe but different levels of leanness.
Their natural statuseses are comparable.

Anyway, I won’t leave you hangin big guy

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Anyway, I won’t leave you hangin big guy
[/quote]

Thanks, man!

To be clear, my reference to Waylander was not meant to disparage him at all. Great guy. He has helped me here and outside of these boards. Nothing but admiration and respect for him.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

There some people who can keep up thank god[/quote]

RyanC -

Wow.

Yes, your intellect is far superior to mine.

Talk about a bitchy little e-dude… mee-yowww

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Anyway, I won’t leave you hangin big guy
[/quote]

Thanks, man!

To be clear, my reference to Waylander was not meant to disparage him at all. Great guy. He has helped me here and outside of these boards. Nothing but admiration and respect for him.

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

There some people who can keep up thank god[/quote]

RyanC -

Wow.

Yes, your intellect is far superior to mine.

Talk about a bitchy little e-dude… mee-yowww[/quote]

Lol yep I am a bitch

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
He was flown out to CO for the training videos but was inexplicably kept away from all of the other male trainees.[/quote]

He was having a hard enough time not getting lapped by the chicks… pairing him with synergy would’ve just been mean.[/quote]

I seriously remember there was a video featuring Synergy, Professor X, and that other big guy with the salt and pepper hair all training together but can’t find it. They were doing some type of one arm HS seated bench presses and pushups together. I don’t recall X doing the pushups though. Perhaps the video was removed.

Personally I wouldn’t mind if I got lapped by chicks (or anyone for that matter) so long as I was trying hard. When it comes to non-competitive hobbies, to me, although there will be some better than others, heart is what counts. Even at a competitive level, there will be judgment, but few have the balls or lifestyle to compete in anything, so I give credit to all.

Most or all on here would be outdone by Synergy in any physical endeavor.

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Synergy is from a whole different galaxy.

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Personally I wouldn’t mind if I got lapped by chicks (or anyone for that matter) so long as I was trying hard. When it comes to non-competitive hobbies, to me, although there will be some better than others, heart is what counts. Even at a competitive level, there will be judgment, but few have the balls or lifestyle to compete in anything, so I give credit to all.

Most or all on here would be outdone by Synergy in any physical endeavor. [/quote]

While my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, I will say that there is nothing necessarily wrong with getting lapped by chicks, especially when we are talking about ones who are as phenomenally conditioned as the three he trained with.

And while synergy is, obviously, on a totally different planet than the rest of us, I really only mentioned him because I can’t recall off the top of my head who else was flown to Colorado (though despite his mutant status, he DOES train alongside another guy or two).

While I’m sure some might find some credibility in the idea of Biotest attempting to protect their favorite forumite from embarrassment, X being trained solo is more likely just due to a combination of Biotest wanting to capitalize on his reputation alongside some scheduling issues for his trip that precluded the opportunity to train alongside the other guys.

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Personally I wouldn’t mind if I got lapped by chicks (or anyone for that matter) so long as I was trying hard. When it comes to non-competitive hobbies, to me, although there will be some better than others, heart is what counts. Even at a competitive level, there will be judgment, but few have the balls or lifestyle to compete in anything, so I give credit to all.

Most or all on here would be outdone by Synergy in any physical endeavor. [/quote]

While my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, I will say that there is nothing necessarily wrong with getting lapped by chicks, especially when we are talking about ones who are as phenomenally conditioned as the three he trained with.

And while synergy is, obviously, on a totally different planet than the rest of us, I really only mentioned him because I can’t recall off the top of my head who else was flown to Colorado (though despite his mutant status, he DOES train alongside another guy or two).

While I’m sure some might find some credibility in the idea of Biotest attempting to protect their favorite forumite from embarrassment, X being trained solo is more likely just due to a combination of Biotest wanting to capitalize on his reputation alongside some scheduling issues for his trip that precluded the opportunity to train alongside the other guys.[/quote]

Good post.

X, why have you abandoned all these exercises:overhead presses, dips, chinups, bent over rows, dumbbell rows, deadlifts, squats.

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[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Personally I wouldn’t mind if I got lapped by chicks (or anyone for that matter) so long as I was trying hard. When it comes to non-competitive hobbies, to me, although there will be some better than others, heart is what counts. Even at a competitive level, there will be judgment, but few have the balls or lifestyle to compete in anything, so I give credit to all.

Most or all on here would be outdone by Synergy in any physical endeavor. [/quote]

While my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, I will say that there is nothing necessarily wrong with getting lapped by chicks, especially when we are talking about ones who are as phenomenally conditioned as the three he trained with.

And while synergy is, obviously, on a totally different planet than the rest of us, I really only mentioned him because I can’t recall off the top of my head who else was flown to Colorado (though despite his mutant status, he DOES train alongside another guy or two).

While I’m sure some might find some credibility in the idea of Biotest attempting to protect their favorite forumite from embarrassment, X being trained solo is more likely just due to a combination of Biotest wanting to capitalize on his reputation alongside some scheduling issues for his trip that precluded the opportunity to train alongside the other guys.[/quote]

Good post.

X, why have you abandoned all these exercises:overhead presses, dips, chinups, bent over rows, dumbbell rows, deadlifts, squats. [/quote]

Believe he said for either Squats or Bench, I can’t recall, getting to 405+ it kind of gets dangerous without a spotter and such.

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[quote]Spidey22 wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:
Personally I wouldn’t mind if I got lapped by chicks (or anyone for that matter) so long as I was trying hard. When it comes to non-competitive hobbies, to me, although there will be some better than others, heart is what counts. Even at a competitive level, there will be judgment, but few have the balls or lifestyle to compete in anything, so I give credit to all.

Most or all on here would be outdone by Synergy in any physical endeavor. [/quote]

While my comment was mostly tongue-in-cheek, I will say that there is nothing necessarily wrong with getting lapped by chicks, especially when we are talking about ones who are as phenomenally conditioned as the three he trained with.

And while synergy is, obviously, on a totally different planet than the rest of us, I really only mentioned him because I can’t recall off the top of my head who else was flown to Colorado (though despite his mutant status, he DOES train alongside another guy or two).

While I’m sure some might find some credibility in the idea of Biotest attempting to protect their favorite forumite from embarrassment, X being trained solo is more likely just due to a combination of Biotest wanting to capitalize on his reputation alongside some scheduling issues for his trip that precluded the opportunity to train alongside the other guys.[/quote]

Good post.

X, why have you abandoned all these exercises:overhead presses, dips, chinups, bent over rows, dumbbell rows, deadlifts, squats. [/quote]

Believe he said for either Squats or Bench, I can’t recall, getting to 405+ it kind of gets dangerous without a spotter and such.[/quote]

I bench 405 without a spotter usually. I just don’t push it to failure.

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^Yeah, but I believe that, in X’s case, 405 was probably getting close to max effort for him. Therefore, it was probably not safe for him to work with that weight without a spotter, as he probably couldn’t handle it well enough to attempt it when alone. That’s my guess.

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All hail Bau-i warm up with 405 on bench-ber

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[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
^Yeah, but I believe that, in X’s case, 405 was probably getting close to max effort for him. Therefore, it was probably not safe for him to work with that weight without a spotter, as he probably couldn’t handle it well enough to attempt it when alone. That’s my guess.[/quote]

I always felt like that was more of PX’s bullshit. He claimed all these numbers, then when seen on vid he’s struggling with considerably less WITH band assistance. Yeah, I know he was “injured” and has “asthma” and it was “conditioning” and he’s “fat”, but it still reeked of bullshit. He’s the same guy who claimed there’s only a 5 or so pound difference between hammer strength and free weights…

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

[quote]J. Prufrock wrote:
^Yeah, but I believe that, in X’s case, 405 was probably getting close to max effort for him. Therefore, it was probably not safe for him to work with that weight without a spotter, as he probably couldn’t handle it well enough to attempt it when alone. That’s my guess.[/quote]

I always felt like that was more of PX’s bullshit. He claimed all these numbers, then when seen on vid he’s struggling with considerably less WITH band assistance. Yeah, I know he was “injured” and has “asthma” and it was “conditioning” and he’s “fat”, but it still reeked of bullshit. He’s the same guy who claimed there’s only a 5 or so pound difference between hammer strength and free weights…[/quote]

5lb diff between HS and free weight. Ha that’s a new gem