[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
I sense a new hostility in your posts CC. Are the recent abundance of ridiculous posts finally getting to you? It’s like X has calmed down and you took over his left over aggression. Weird shit.[/quote]
I haven’t calmed down. I just don’t post as much. Most of these guys are trolls anyway.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
I sense a new hostility in your posts CC. Are the recent abundance of ridiculous posts finally getting to you? It’s like X has calmed down and you took over his residual aggression. Weird shit.[/quote]
You mean my first two responses in this thread? Yeah well, what can you do. You’re right, it seems to be troll season again. Some posts are just so stupid that it hurts when I read them, so I sometimes feel like retaliating.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Guess you’ll need to set the pins higher than I do as well if you have longer arms (never measured my wing-span, but I’m guessing that I’m in the short to mid range there)
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Set-up is what I’ve been playing around with to get it down so I can start loading it up, plus I’ve got an unweighted Smith to play with that has the stoppers quite close to the ground but at a nice enough height that replicates a pin set-up…that way I have been playing around with doing the press and pushing down to my toes at the same time…very nice way to do it (complements to you on providing the info about that one…)
BTW…I hated that article that went on the frontpage today…knew I shouldn’t have read it.
Don’t get me wrong guys. I don’t care or think it’s uncalled for. I’m just so used to X shitting on people and CC being so calm…it’s just a change of scenery.
[quote]diamonddelts59 wrote:
Rocky101 wrote:
The length of your arms doesn’t matter as much as the length of the muscle bellies.
x2. IMHO lifting heavy on compound movements will help arms grow alone. i have 16 3/4 inch arms without ever directly training arms and im 6’5’'[/quote]
X3. The only direct arm work I do is tricep pushdowns and one bicep excercise. The rest comes from compound movements. I also think I have been blessed in the arm department in terms of muscle bellies. My arms grow easy and are sitting 17 right now.
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
diamonddelts59 wrote:
Rocky101 wrote:
The length of your arms doesn’t matter as much as the length of the muscle bellies.
x2. IMHO lifting heavy on compound movements will help arms grow alone. i have 16 3/4 inch arms without ever directly training arms and im 6’5’’
X3. The only direct arm work I do is tricep pushdowns and one bicep excercise. The rest comes from compound movements. I also think I have been blessed in the arm department in terms of muscle bellies. My arms grow easy and are sitting 17 right now.[/quote]
Pics?
Just seems like some big arms for 3 inches taller, 40lbs lighter and roughly the same BF as i am.
lol countingbeans, your 505 DL vid made me crack up. What’s with the jazz hands and happy feet bro?
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
lol countingbeans, your 505 DL vid made me crack up. What’s with the jazz hands and happy feet bro?[/quote]
I attribute that to lack of video editing software. lol
It’s called my “Ray Lewis dance”
Seriously, I’m just going through my mental cues getting myself ready to put forth the effort. I’m a dork.
holy shit king beef does have some freakishly long ass arms…never really noticed until some of you guys pointed it out…! lolz
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Davinci.v2 wrote:
lol countingbeans, your 505 DL vid made me crack up. What’s with the jazz hands and happy feet bro?
I attribute that to lack of video editing software. lol
It’s called my “Ray Lewis dance”
Seriously, I’m just going through my mental cues getting myself ready to put forth the effort. I’m a dork.[/quote]
lol. I’m just bustin your balls, we all do it with our big lifts. I typically pace back and forth shaking my head around a bit looking crazy.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
pw34 wrote:
first of all do not overtrain.Lets start out training arms once per week no more than 9 to 12 sets per muscle.Week one keep reps at 5-8 week two 12-15 week 3 reps at 15-20 than repeat.After a month of that bump your sets up to 12 to 14 12-14 what… Work sets at the same weight, ramped sets including warm-ups, ramped sets without warm-ups, rest-paused sets, cluster sets… note on light day 15-20 keep the sets at 9 no more.NOW THE BIG SECRET you will need to get a thick bar 2in incorporate it only on half your sets.ALSO VERY IMPORTANT when you squeeze the thick bar you must apply alot of force to the bar.This is going to cause extreme irridation thru out the arm and really hit all those muscles you are trying to get big.
Ive been training for 20 years studied every method out there and have seen it all.I know what works and what dosent.Im not trying to be cocky ive just put in my time and have always been serious about training and helping others reach there goals.One more thing i forgot to mention when using the big bar your weights will be alot lighter so dont get discouraged.Train like this for about 6 months then we will change things around again ,this is just the begining there is alot more to discuss but this is a good
start for now.Good luck and GOD BLESS
“Ive been training for 20 years studied every method out there and have seen it all.I know what works and what dosent.”
Weight: 210
Height: 6 '2
Body Fat %: 8.5
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And that above is your universal arm routine or what? Not a mention of weight progression, exercise selection, etc… I’m glad you threw in the word “overtraining” though… And then went on about doing a ton of sets at low frequency. Very good. That is going to help the OP bring his Pin CGP numbers up to 405+ for reps, right?
RAMPED …did you get that out of your favorite flex magazine?Mr.300 lbs of steel
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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Rocky2 wrote:
diamonddelts59 wrote:
Rocky101 wrote:
The length of your arms doesn’t matter as much as the length of the muscle bellies.
x2. IMHO lifting heavy on compound movements will help arms grow alone. i have 16 3/4 inch arms without ever directly training arms and im 6’5’’
X3. The only direct arm work I do is tricep pushdowns and one bicep excercise. The rest comes from compound movements. I also think I have been blessed in the arm department in terms of muscle bellies. My arms grow easy and are sitting 17 right now.
Pics?
Just seems like some big arms for 3 inches taller, 40lbs lighter and roughly the same BF as i am.[/quote]
K I’ll get some, just gotta find a tape measure here at college.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
I typically pace back and forth shaking my head around a bit looking crazy.
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I do this for deadlifts, but also have a 10second staring competition with the bar before I pull it.
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
I’m in pretty much the same boat as you, 5’10 with a 78" wingspan (average wingspan of a 6’6" individual). With my current “routine” my arms have been exploding and have stretch marks all over them up to 17.7" cold (18.5" pumped) from 16" at the beginning of the year. If you want big arms then you should do direct arm work.
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Damn.
People always comment on my ‘baboon arms’, I’m 5’11" with a 76" reach.
My arms are considerably skinnier than yours though.
I have no excuses now, pretty inspirational seeing that building up the old bean stalks is possible.
I’ve also found that 45 degree incline curls really help for biceps.
Have you had any success with PJR pullovers for triceps? I started these a couple of months ago and totally fell in love with them.
[quote]jarvis wrote:
kingbeef323 wrote:
I’m in pretty much the same boat as you, 5’10 with a 78" wingspan (average wingspan of a 6’6" individual). With my current “routine” my arms have been exploding and have stretch marks all over them up to 17.7" cold (18.5" pumped) from 16" at the beginning of the year. If you want big arms then you should do direct arm work.
Damn.
People always comment on my ‘baboon arms’, I’m 5’11" with a 76" reach.
My arms are considerably skinnier than yours though.
I have no excuses now, pretty inspirational seeing that building up the old bean stalks is possible.
I’ve also found that 45 degree incline curls really help for biceps.
Have you had any success with PJR pullovers for triceps? I started these a couple of months ago and totally fell in love with them. [/quote]
I actually do a similar movement to that on a decline with an EZ bar: decline dead stop extensions which I also mentioned that I particularly like, lol. Haven’t tried the pjr pullover.
I reckon I’ll give those a go Beef.
I stalled out slightly on the PJRs in the last week so I think its a perfect time to try something new.
Where abouts are you stopping the bar? above your forehead?
My power rack is on the other side of the Atlantic right now so I’m going to have to improvise.
I may try to set these up off the floor with some plates as I dont have any pins to stop against.
[quote]jarvis wrote:
I reckon I’ll give those a go Beef.
I stalled out slightly on the PJRs in the last week so I think its a perfect time to try something new.
Where abouts are you stopping the bar? above your forehead?
My power rack is on the other side of the Atlantic right now so I’m going to have to improvise.
I may try to set these up off the floor with some plates as I dont have any pins to stop against.
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No, I use one of those decline benches that people like to do sit ups on and bring it down until the weights touch the floor just behind my head with my elbows at about 90 degrees then explode back up and extend the elbows. Some people will probably say not to lockout, but I love the extreme contraction that I feel in my lateral head from locking out this movement.
[quote]Rocky2 wrote:
diamonddelts59 wrote:
Rocky101 wrote:
The length of your arms doesn’t matter as much as the length of the muscle bellies.
x2. IMHO lifting heavy on compound movements will help arms grow alone. i have 16 3/4 inch arms without ever directly training arms and im 6’5’’
X3. The only direct arm work I do is tricep pushdowns and one bicep excercise. The rest comes from compound movements. I also think I have been blessed in the arm department in terms of muscle bellies. My arms grow easy and are sitting 17 right now.[/quote]
Ok so some people can build decent arms with compound movements only. Lucky them. But advising people who struggle to build size in their arms compared to their torso not to do much if any direct arm work is pretty close-minded. Granted, my arms aren’t great but if I did no direct arm work then they would never even have reached 15". I’m sure plenty of other people are the same.
[quote]kingbeef323 wrote:
No, I use one of those decline benches that people like to do sit ups on and bring it down until the weights touch the floor just behind my head with my elbows at about 90 degrees then explode back up and extend the elbows. Some people will probably say not to lockout, but I love the extreme contraction that I feel in my lateral head from locking out this movement.[/quote]
Sweet, thanks a lot for the clarification. I’ll give these a go when I next hit triceps.
[quote]jarvis wrote:
kingbeef323 wrote:
No, I use one of those decline benches that people like to do sit ups on and bring it down until the weights touch the floor just behind my head with my elbows at about 90 degrees then explode back up and extend the elbows. Some people will probably say not to lockout, but I love the extreme contraction that I feel in my lateral head from locking out this movement.
Sweet, thanks a lot for the clarification. I’ll give these a go when I next hit triceps.[/quote]
Jason Wojo lying tricep extensions - YouTube ← for those unfamiliar with DSE’s.