PWO for me:
Grilled Chicken (sliced + Diced), Veggies and Ramen.
And of course milk.
Learn to love peanut butter sandwiches and milk.
[quote]t3h_Squirr3l wrote:
Learn to love peanut butter sandwiches and milk. [/quote]
Seriously. You can make a Peanut Butter sandwich pack well over 1000 calories.
PB, Nutella, Banana, Mixed nuts, plus a glass of milk to wash it down. Depending on the portions used, can easily equal 1500 calories. 2 of those a day, and you’ve almost met your basic caloric needs.
Although, there is something to be said about eating so many calories at once, Which is why I typically do open-faced half sandwiches that come in at ~500-800 calories a piece.
It’s damn tasty too.
The thing that used to work me up about this site was how everybody seemed to be able to eat so much! I’m not naturally a big eater so for me to get in 3500 cals a day is a big stretch.
The way I found it easiest to eat more is with a blender - sometimes the thought of another bowl of chicken and rice does not appeal but with your own MRP shake it’s quite easy to get in another meal.
They are quick and easy to prepare (if time and organisation are a problem), cheap (if there’s a cash issue) and portable (so can easily be taken on the move / in class etc.)
What I have in mine for the time being is:
50g Protein powder (40g protein)
50g Oats
300ml Milk
1 banana
(and some frozen berries if I’ve treated myself)
It comes in just over 600 cals so you could start there or make a slightly smaller one and build up - and it doesn’t feel like you’ve eaten 600 cals after either.
This may sound obvious to some but it wasn’t to me for a long time and now I’m starting to eat the way I should, I’m starting to grow the way I want.
Hope this helps,
Q.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
The guy may not be completely off. I was eating like other football players and most of them could put away more food than I could ever hope to at the time. Over time I was able to match them. Like Bill Roberts wrote, however, you base this on your own progress. if you are growing at a decent rate, then avoid making DRASTIC changes for no reason. I, unlike him, don’t consider your weight gain all that impressive. 115lbs was skeletal unless you were 5 foot 2 at the time. That means your body will gain weight by simply NOT starving it. Getting past “average” body weight is going to take a lot more focus, consistency and drive to get more food down.
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i agree with you, my weight gain up to this point has been from training and actually getting an appetite from lifting weights.
This is why i am having so much trouble with getting past the point where i am, because eating big has never been easy for me but like you guys said i just have to do it and try to add a little more each day, but thanks for all the honest answers and i appreciate your guys help and honesty.
It’s interesting that I seem to be able to “get big” without overeating. I eat a normal range of calories and never vary too much, but my lifting seems to determine my results. When I go heavy in the gym, I blow up. Regardless of eating more, I seem to gain weight…maybe I eat more in REACTION to harder workouts? Probably.
I think the body does a good job at self-regulating how much you need to eat/drink to grow.
If you are eating to get big, you don’t need the usual staples like chicken breasts and veggies.
Higher-fat content beef and chicken thigs and legs can be had on the cheap. Don’t be afraid of eating something because it comes out of a box. Frozen pizzas are fine to eat so long as you are training hard enough.
In fact, the guys who are the biggest food nazis almost have the smallest arms.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
If you are eating to get big, you don’t need the usual staples like chicken breasts and veggies.
Higher-fat content beef and chicken thigs and legs can be had on the cheap. Don’t be afraid of eating something because it comes out of a box. Frozen pizzas are fine to eat so long as you are training hard enough.
In fact, the guys who are the biggest food nazis almost have the smallest arms.
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Second that.
This is a very general statement I know, but you may be surprised how much solid food can be had for real cheap if taste becomes drastically deprioritized as well.
Last night I got 30 5.5 oz. cans of sardines in tomtato sauce 2 for a buck. Each can has 27 grams of complete protein, a few grams of EFA’s and a few grams of carbs along with a bit of micros… for 50 cents.
Like Claw said too, I eat chicken thighs exclusively, 69 cents a pound and 80-85% lean beef 99 cents a pound.
Also Professor X touched a point that I think gets overlooked way too often and that’s preparedness. I always have the following days food ready the night before. It may seem a bit fanatical, but if we go out shopping or something I always take something with me and leave it in the van in case we wind up out longer than expected.
In terms of gaining weight, if you’re not prone to gaining alot of bodyfat, and it’s not a concern:
- Double up on your servings of Surge
- Days after training, have a full serving of Surge 30-45 minutes before breakfast first thing upon rising.
- Eat 50-75 grams of protein at every single meal.
4)Have a ton of carbs at breakfast, and in your case, the 4 hours after you train. Just pile them on. - Just try to eat clean 80-90% of the time. It’s tough eating great all the time, especiall in college, so just do the best you can, and don’t worry if not every calorie is clean. That being said, don’t go hog wild on fast food every day.
- Invest in some digestive enzymes, like the Dr. Berardi approved Omegazyme. Probiotics also help first thing in the morning, say 10 minutes before you have either your Surge or breakfast. You are what you absorb.
- Obviously hit the compound lifts hard, but be sure to do alot of accessory work as well in the 6-12 range with relatively short rest periods (no more than 2 minutes).
- Be sure to get fiber. I know in a bulking diet you want to be hungry, but you don’t want to be backed up either.
- Be sure to get enough sleep, even if it’s broken up throughout the day.
Good luck man, and congrats on your progress so far.
-Greg
All good advice here. The blender idea works great. Before you realize you can’t stuff any more calories down, you’re already done.
Also, try alternating solid meals with liquid meals. Sure, it’s best by far to get all your calories in from real solid food, but if you’re having trouble getting them down, try having a liquid meal in between solid meals. It empties out of your stomach a lot faster, and will help you get used to getting more food.
Finally, realize that eating big is work. For some people (including myself) it feels like much more work than training hard in the gym. Do it anyway. It’s your choice whether to grow or not, you have to will yourself to eat whether you want to or not, whether you’re hungry or not. But as the Prof said, no drastic changes for no reason.
Ok.
Im 14 Im over 200 pounds, I total 1090
In a day, I will eat, 12 eggs, 2 whole roasted chickens, 2.2lbs of read meat OR fish, 1-2 pounds of vegetables, half a gallon of milk.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I can honestly say that if it weren’t for the existance of women on this planet, I would have graduated at least 50lbs lighter.
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Ah, the life of a poor college student. I remember it well.
I used to specifically target wall-flower type girls that I knew had access to their daddy’s credit cards.
Free food, free clothes, sometimes even a free place to stay for a while.
I just had to put out. Which wasn’t always so bad, but sometimes I had to close my eyes and imagine a hot chick depending on the girls level of fugliness.
If they had viagra back then, I may have even gone after one of the rich fat girls. College would have been a financial cakewalk.
Full time college student here as well. However I work full time as well. Where as money really isn’t an issue, its TIME that is hard to find for cooking and shit like that.
My staples are…
1lb 93/7 Lean Hamburger meat every day eaten in some fashion (hamburger helper/burritos)
2 Protein Shakes w/ Milk/peanut butter/honey/oats and sometimes chocolate syrup and chocolate ice cream for an insulin spike after workouts.
Everything beyond that I just take what I can… there is a reason why I know that a double quarter pounder with cheese from Mcdonalds has 770 calories and 46 grams of protein. Do I recommend eating fast food all the time? NO, is it healthy? Probably not…
Did it help me add around 60lbs in around 1.5 years going from 160 to 220+??? you bet your fucking ass it did.
I do my best to eat clean and healthy, but getting big is my #1 priority, so I eat to be big.
PASTA…i eat 1/2 pound of pasta after dinner before bed…it has alot of carbs which helps to put size on…i know your thinking carbs will get you fat but thats not always the case…especially if you train hard you will lean out…it worked for me so im sure it will work for you and its cheap
pasta
[quote]lazyaxus11 wrote:
Full time college student here as well. However I work full time as well. Where as money really isn’t an issue, its TIME that is hard to find for cooking and shit like that.
My staples are…
1lb 93/7 Lean Hamburger meat every day eaten in some fashion (hamburger helper/burritos)
2 Protein Shakes w/ Milk/peanut butter/honey/oats and sometimes chocolate syrup and chocolate ice cream for an insulin spike after workouts.
Everything beyond that I just take what I can… there is a reason why I know that a double quarter pounder with cheese from Mcdonalds has 770 calories and 46 grams of protein. Do I recommend eating fast food all the time? NO, is it healthy? Probably not…
Did it help me add around 60lbs in around 1.5 years going from 160 to 220+??? you bet your fucking ass it did.
I do my best to eat clean and healthy, but getting big is my #1 priority, so I eat to be big.[/quote]
I did things the same way and it is why I hit my goals quickly at first.
[quote]pure_country wrote:
my main problem is with eating more? any advice i would sure appreciate, and by the way i am a college student so i dont have a lot of money to spend on food? [/quote]
gotta rock the tuna man - cheepest form of good protein there is
Although they’re not ideal, chicken drumsticks/thighs packages are dirt cheep too.
Also, milk and eggs are some of the cheepest forms of protein you can get.
Throw a couple scoops of whey and a cup of oat flour in a shaker bottle. Voila - perfect carbs, great protein, good mono fats, portable, cheap, and goes down quick.
Being broke sucks, so get to know what stores have the best egg prices. Walmart is pretty solid most of the time with an 18 pack coming in under 2 dollars.
Ice cream (before training or if I’ve felt I haven’t eaten enough)
Chocolate 60%+ bars (eventually on top of ice cream :))
Beef 10-14% fat (I eat 500 grs a day which equals 100 gr of protein, and 600 kcal)
Oatmeal (good breakfast usually around 500 gr with some nuts in)
Milk (2-3 liters a day = 100 gr of protein)
Sorry for using the metric system.
[quote]dhuge67 wrote:
It’s interesting that I seem to be able to “get big” without overeating. I eat a normal range of calories and never vary too much, but my lifting seems to determine my results. When I go heavy in the gym, I blow up. Regardless of eating more, I seem to gain weight…maybe I eat more in REACTION to harder workouts? Probably.
I think the body does a good job at self-regulating how much you need to eat/drink to grow. [/quote]
No offense but you weigh 165. It doesn’t take much food to get bigger then.