How Many People Have You Been With?

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]MementoMori wrote:
I’ll judge people by experience, not anatomy.
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That’s exactly what he’s doing too. I’m surprised you don’t understand.[/quote]

I’m surprised that is what you get from it. I read it as if you are a female slut you will never be marriage material, if you are male with the same standards it doesn’t factor in to it.

FWIW I know women that were very slutty that have been married twenty plus years. It depends on the person regardless of gender.

I use slut as an endearment btw.
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I don’t believe I used the words, “never be marriage material”. I believe I said there needs to be some serious compensating factors and a track record of CHANGE for her to be considered.

But if you all want to MARRY a slut, KNOCK YOUR SELF OUT! I can recommend a great divorce attorney. Boggles my little brain when people throw common fucking sense out the window just be politically correct. What ever - it’s YOUR assets at risk, not mine.[/quote]

That statement still stands for either gender. The only real male sluts (I only use that term because that is what we call women playa’s right) I know are on their third or fourth marriage.
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You are missing the point. In a perfect little world, WHO CARES if a marriage fails? If two people go their own separate ways, washed their hands of each other and waved bye, this discussion would be meaningless.

The issue is, WOMEN TAKE HALF.

So it is FAR FAR FAR more important for a man to be extra careful about a woman he marries than it is for a woman to be careful about who she marries. As long as he’s not beating her ass every night, she’ll be fine in the long run.

How can you people not see this?

It is NOT the same! Men and women are DIFFERENT, and they are treated DIFFERENTLY in court. Does anyone care to challenge that statement? But I’m just a misogynistic asshole with a double standard, right? What am I missing here?[/quote]

I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.
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I think his perspective is coming into it with 99.9999% and leaving with 50% lol. That would suck.

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

and a track record of CHANGE for her to be considered.
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There, THIS is what I can agree with.

Past behavior, his or hers, isn’t the issue. Present and near-past are. Depending on age I would expect the length of time to be shorter or longer for reform.
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Well, I wrote that halfway down page 7, but people like to ignore my points and make it about me, because it’s easier to attack me, than my points.

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.
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I think his perspective is coming into it with 99.9999% and leaving with 50% lol. That would suck.[/quote]

I can see this. Then again, it is 2014. Women are allowed to work :wink:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.
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I think his perspective is coming into it with 99.9999% and leaving with 50% lol. That would suck.[/quote]

That is indeed my perspective. I have had ONE year since I turned 27 where I’ve made less than 100K. And when I was in mortgage, I had years where I grossed over 500K. And I did get taken to the cleaners with my first divorce. So can I be faulted for having the position I do? I already conceded that NOTHING in this world is 100% absolute, and that I’m sure that there are exceptions to the “you can’t turn a ho into a housewife” rule. All I’m saying is that it’s not a SAFE BET. And if you have assets, it may behoove one to take precautions.

And I stand by my statement that women who don’t VALUE themselves enough to control their impulses have far greater issues than men who go out and sleep around. Sex IS different for men and women. If it were the same, there would probably be an equal number of prostitutes of each gender, right? I mean I could destroy that argument all day long because it’s common sense and backed by history and culture all over the world.

If you have a key that can open many locks, it’s a MASTER KEY. If you have a lock that can be opened by many keys, it’s a SHITTY LOCK.

Call me a misogynistic male chauvinist asshole, but that’s the fucking truth. Some may not like the truth. Some may wish the truth were different. I don’t really care, those are my observations and I base my life, my plans and my actions on what I can observe, not on what I “wish”.

In a perfect world a frog would have wings so he wouldn’t bump his ass every time he jumped.

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.
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I think his perspective is coming into it with 99.9999% and leaving with 50% lol. That would suck.[/quote]

I can see this. Then again, it is 2014. Women are allowed to work :wink: [/quote]

Even when they work, they get the kids and get the house… And the child support and SOME kind of alimony.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.
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I think his perspective is coming into it with 99.9999% and leaving with 50% lol. That would suck.[/quote]

I can see this. Then again, it is 2014. Women are allowed to work :wink: [/quote]

Even when they work, they get the kids and get the house… And the child support and SOME kind of alimony.
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I’m just busting your balls. I wouldn’t ever tell a person not be cautious when it comes to marriage. FWIW I wouldn’t marry a woman that’s had even 10 dicks in her so…

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:
I guess I am too far removed to see it from your perspective. She takes half and I take half, we both came into the relationship with next to nothing and have both worked hard for what we have. Neither of us had a huge number of partners either so I will admit bias.
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I think his perspective is coming into it with 99.9999% and leaving with 50% lol. That would suck.[/quote]

I can see this. Then again, it is 2014. Women are allowed to work :wink: [/quote]

Even when they work, they get the kids and get the house… And the child support and SOME kind of alimony.
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I’m just busting your balls. I wouldn’t ever tell a person not be cautious when it comes to marriage. FWIW I wouldn’t marry a woman that’s had even 10 dicks in her so…[/quote]

You MISOGYNIST HYPOCRITE! LOL

Gents, how would you go about learning how many dicks have been in the woman you may be considering a relationship with? How is that discussion broached? Do you bluntly ask for a number, or glean the information over time to not arouse suspicion? Assume a history cannot be established.

[quote]Will207 wrote:
Gents, how would you go about learning how many dicks have been in the woman you may be considering a relationship with? How is that discussion broached? Do you bluntly ask for a number, or glean the information over time to not arouse suspicion? Assume a history cannot be established.

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Well ain’t that the million dollar question? This is not a current issue for me and will hopefully never be again (married). I’ll let others “in the game” answer.

[quote]Will207 wrote:
Gents, how would you go about learning how many dicks have been in the woman you may be considering a relationship with? How is that discussion broached? Do you bluntly ask for a number, or glean the information over time to not arouse suspicion? Assume a history cannot be established.

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It has to be established WHILE IN a relationship. I don’t care how many if it’s just dating, or seeing each other exclusively. Ask me no questions and I’ll tell you no lies LOL. But if shit get’s serious, you should be able to pick up an approximate number from conversations over time. And if you catch them lying, call them on it.

For example, I am dating a chick right now that I’ve known for about 8 months or so. The other day she made the statement that she’s only been with ten guys. Since I knew of at least 4 guys within the year before we started seeing each other and at least 4 more that she’d mentioned as prior boyfriends, I called bullshit. I rattled them off and said, “so you mean to tell me that you’ve only been with TWO other dudes besides them?”. Her reply was, “well, OK, it didn’t seem like that much, but the number is DEFINITELY under 20”. LOL I’m guessing it’s about 25 - 30. Closer to 40 if you count blowjobs. And I really don’t give a shit, I’m not thinking about marrying her so it doesn’t really matter.

Women lie. And they don’t even know they are lying. She honestly believed the number as it was coming out of her mouth. But she had completely confabulated it. It’s not malicious, it’s just in their nature.

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
It has to be established WHILE IN a relationship. I don’t care how many if it’s just dating, or seeing each other exclusively. Ask me no questions and I’ll tell you no lies LOL. But if shit get’s serious, you should be able to pick up an approximate number from conversations over time. And if you catch them lying, call them on it.

For example, I am dating a chick right now that I’ve known for about 8 months or so. The other day she made the statement that she’s only been with ten guys. Since I knew of at least 4 guys within the year before we started seeing each other and at least 4 more that she’d mentioned as prior boyfriends, I called bullshit. I rattled them off and said, “so you mean to tell me that you’ve only been with TWO other dudes besides them?”. Her reply was, “well, OK, it didn’t seem like that much, but the number is DEFINITELY under 20”. LOL I’m guessing it’s about 25 - 30. Closer to 40 if you count blowjobs. And I really don’t give a shit, I’m not thinking about marrying her so it doesn’t really matter.

Women lie. And they don’t even know they are lying. She honestly believed the number as it was coming out of her mouth. But she had completely confabulated it. It’s not malicious, it’s just in their nature.[/quote]

Agreed. There has to be some form of commitment before you get disclosure. It would be nice if you could get a CARFAX report. I’ve always been asked my number early in the relationship, so naturally I turn the question around.

[quote]Will207 wrote:
It would be nice if you could get a CARFAX report.
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Fuck that lol. I’ll take a ballpark figure I can believe long before something that detailed.

If she forgot 2 or 3 I’m okay with it, because it means they were meaningless, not worth remembering.

(This is all assuming I’ve got reason to trust her during the current relationship.)

Number of Owners VS Mileage

Which is more of a concern; a woman who has had many partners, or a woman who has been extremely liberal in her sexual encounters? A friend of mine revealed to me that his smart, good-looking, high earning girlfriend had been air-locked one night by two guys she was friends with. Her overall number was low, but I thought this was a dealbreaker for relationship material.

Thoughts?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Will207 wrote:
It would be nice if you could get a CARFAX report.
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Fuck that lol. I’ll take a ballpark figure I can believe long before something that detailed.

If she forgot 2 or 3 I’m okay with it, because it means they were meaningless, not worth remembering.

(This is all assuming I’ve got reason to trust her during the current relationship.) [/quote]

Yea I meant BEFORE the relationship started. Once you’re invested, the less details the better while still having the overall picture.

ugh… Imagine:

  1. Johnny - 7" liked it rough
  2. Tony - 5" soft, tender, like oral and anal
  3. Jamal - You’re shit out of luck" and would leave you for him tomorrow but he is married now
  4. Greg - also hung like a moose" hairy balls but ate vagoo like a starving refugee

shudder

I’ll take:

Any day over that…

[quote]Will207 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Will207 wrote:
It would be nice if you could get a CARFAX report.
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Fuck that lol. I’ll take a ballpark figure I can believe long before something that detailed.

If she forgot 2 or 3 I’m okay with it, because it means they were meaningless, not worth remembering.

(This is all assuming I’ve got reason to trust her during the current relationship.) [/quote]

Yea I meant BEFORE the relationship started. Once you’re invested, the less details the better while still having the overall picture. [/quote]

Yeah, I get where you are coming from, but I’m laughing like crazy over here thinking of these reports lol.

[quote]Will207 wrote:
A friend of mine revealed to me that his smart, good-looking, high earning girlfriend had been air-locked one night by two guys she was friends with. Her overall number was low, but I thought this was a dealbreaker for relationship material.

Thoughts?
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Wouldn’t bother me. I’m not going to share her, so if that is a deal breaker for her, then it is what it is…

Otherwise, that is what they make dildo’s for and if she wants to act out the fantasy, so be it.

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Will207 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Will207 wrote:
It would be nice if you could get a CARFAX report.
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Fuck that lol. I’ll take a ballpark figure I can believe long before something that detailed.

If she forgot 2 or 3 I’m okay with it, because it means they were meaningless, not worth remembering.

(This is all assuming I’ve got reason to trust her during the current relationship.) [/quote]

Yea I meant BEFORE the relationship started. Once you’re invested, the less details the better while still having the overall picture. [/quote]

Yeah, I get where you are coming from, but I’m laughing like crazy over here thinking of these reports lol. [/quote]

Once when I was younger, I was naive and asked a girl I was seeing about those very details. She was the last girl I ever asked.

[quote]Will207 wrote:
Number of Owners VS Mileage

Which is more of a concern; a woman who has had many partners, or a woman who has been extremely liberal in her sexual encounters? A friend of mine revealed to me that his smart, good-looking, high earning girlfriend had been air-locked one night by two guys she was friends with. Her overall number was low, but I thought this was a dealbreaker for relationship material.

Thoughts?
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I don’t really see that as much of a problem. It’s like the chicks that are “gay” in college… Not a big deal.

Heck, I don’t even see it as an issue if you’re in the relationship and do some “taboo” things.