[quote]fr0gger666 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
If dieting was the easy part, X wouldn’t quit diets after 1-2 weeks because he felt like he was “losing size” or need biweekly pizza buffet cheat meals right from the get-go. When someone who has both increased their initial bodyweight by 50+ lean lbs AND gotten to “back of the hand” leanness tells me, I’ll listen, but right now X might as well be trying to tell me what it’s like to grow up as a Mexican in Moscow.
My fiance has an elite powerlifting total and also took overall in her first physique show. She will tell you straight up that those 12 weeks leading into the physique show were far and above the most difficult 3 months of her life. I bulked up initially, spent 4 years pushing my weight up from 140 and lean to 220fat. I did it the way X is always endorsing on this site. As a matter of fact, I followed his advice to a “t” for the better part of my college years and graduated a full 80 lbs heavier. That’s all well and good if you take simple scale weight as a measuring stick of progress, but in order to get to the same level of leanness I had at the beginning of the push, I had to drop back down to the mid 160’s, and this took me EIGHT MONTHS of dedicated work and dealing with hunger, tiredness, and my lifts going to shit. Five years of work yielded 25 lbs of actual muscle (you know, that thing we’re all here to build). That’s right, 25 lbs in 4 years. I’m convinced I could have done better than that had I not chased the scale and fucked my hormonal profile up by being a fat ass at 20% bodyfat. In the year and a half since I finally lost the weight, my weight has only varied +/-10 lbs, but I’ve made huge changes in my physique, as those who know me IRL on this forum can attest. I really believe this is mostly attributable to my insulin sensitivity, p ratio, etc getting un-fucked as I was no longer forcing food on my body that it didn’t need. When it comes to bodybuilding, weight is a garbage metric. It’s like trying to judge how fast a car can go based on the size of it’s gas tank.[/quote]
yeah blame X because you didn’t know what you were doing.
did you ever consider that you weren’t eating enough protein, or that your routine was garbage, instead of blindly blaming calorie intake, though?
from 140 you should be able to get to 180-190 lean within 4 years, maybe even less… 140 is almost no muscle mass to begin with
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Yeah, go ahead and assume you know what I did for 4 years of training and apply some arbitrary number to what I personally should have been able to accomplish. Who’s the idiot in this conversation? Nice try with the troll account, though, X.
You’re right about one thing, 140 isn’t much muscle mass. I’m glad you can make that assertion without knowing my height (5’8"), but I’m in good “natural” shape at my current weight.
I really like the assumptions you make in the mental gymnastics you’re doing to dispute my assertions. Protein? 275-300g a day for the entire time I was in college. I stole a LOT of chicken from the dining hall over the years. A “lot of garbage”? Mostly chicken, eggs, pb, and red meat. I ate burgers when I felt like it and avoided fried foods and sweets for the most part. Some garbage, low protein diet, right?
You seem to be doing some grade-A nut swinging lately. Do you have any pics?
