[quote]lemony2j wrote:
Well I made it to page 7 before skipping the rest of this bullshit.
As far as set points go, id say I was a ‘big guy’ for over a year before I leaned down and maybe it helped, maybe it didn’t I guess we’ll never know. I know that i dont particularly want to get to that level of bf again though because i looked and felt fat. Im currently on a ‘bulk’ and since september I gained 20lbs and can still see my abs, of course some of this was fat/water/glycogen but i believe a fair portion of this has been lbm due to the benefits of being actually LEAN for the first time in my life. And when/if my abs start to fade to the point that I can’t see them I will address the issue.
Like I said, maybe it helped, maybe it didnt but the truth is we’ll never know, and that’s the beauty of bodybuilding, we are continually learning and re-learning as our bodies adapt to the environment we place them in.
These forums would be a much more attractive place if people would let others have their opinions and just get on with it and not respond to every asinine remark, seriously, what can this possibly achieve?
*this isn’t a defence of Professor X[/quote]
I have ran a lot of different strategies to find the “OPTIMAL” way to do things. I know everyone is different but I feel like contributing. When I get around 15% bodyfat, my hunger slows, motivation dies, intensity isn’t there and I don’t feel like efficiency in gaining LBM is being achieved. I have dieted down from a higher bodyfat % and dieted down from a lower body fat % coming off of a so called “BULK,” or gaining phase as I like to call it (naturally). Of course I had to diet longer being heavier, but needless to say I got to the same weight.
THE RESULTS. I gained muscle doing it both ways no doubt, but being leaner had me achieve higher intensity, more focus and an easy cut. I believe I made close to the same GAINZ pertaining to muscle doing it both ways, but better results leaning towards the controlled GAINING PHASE aka LeaN Gaining phase!
My point is why would I:
1.) Spend more money on food to get “Bigger/FAT”
2.) Put my body in a more unhealthier state, were it’s not working as Optimally.
3.) Looking and feeling only BIG in a T shirt.
4.) Not practicing good traits to carry throughout life, self Discipline, Learning experiences and self - control.
5.) Not feeling well, being lethargic and have less energy.
REMEMBER:
Your body can only gain muscle at a certain rate “NATURALLY,” I can’t speak for the enhanced because that’s not the path I travel.
A good quote I heard before states this perfectly " I don’t care how much Sunlight you give a plant (FOOD, because plants use to convert it’s energy) or how much water or even how many drugs (Like miracle grow instead of saying DRUGS) The plant can only GROW at a certain rate that is OPTIMAL. It cannot exceed that rate.
OF course we aren’t plants but it was something to think about to put it into perspective. TO each their own, I am spitting my experiences. DO whatever you want to do.