Alot of guys talking about the amount of test they take but Im not clear if they are referring to pure test of the total amount when diluted which is the case with Sustanon 250.
Ampule is 1ml but the test dose inside is 250mg which leave 750mg of oil.
Currently Im on 1ml per 7-10 days and it seems to be a nice spot in terms of mental clarity/no mood drops, libido acceptable and all blood look good after 3mths.
I wasnt sure if 1ml per week including oil was too high?
Any feedback appreciated.
I do not understand the question. Liquid is not measured in mg. The volume of the oil is in no way related to the concentration within said oil. If I brewed testosterone at 250mg/ml then every ml would have 250mg of testosterone. If I brewed it at 25mg/ml you’d have to take 10ml to get the same dose. The oil is just the carrier.
Well then you’ve been taking 250mg-per-ml at a rate of one ml per week.
so thats 250mg per week.
simples . . . . thats a fraction on the low side, but if you feel good on that then just fine.
BTW it’s all a bit of an oversimplification, but thats the way everyone states their doseage
Thanks for the clarification Jay, I wasn’t sure if people have access to pure test as well as diluted test as is the case with Sust250.
For me this is a long term TRT dose as i wont be cycling on/off so it needs to be on the safe side preferably.
On the Sust 250 box it state 1ml Ampule
Therefore 1000mg = 1 ml
Sust 250 contains a total of 250mg test
Therefore when someone advises to take 250mg a week is that a quarter of the Sust 250 1ml vial or the full vial?
I wasn’t sure if we are measuring the test within the vial or the total volume including oil.
How…how in the world do you conclude this? My man, this is the most basic part of steroids. If you don’t have a firm grasp on this part then you have no business doing any of this.
A ml is a unit of measurement for volume (read: liquid). A mg is a unit of measurement for weight (read: solid). The oil is a liquid, the hormone is a solid.
Nobody uses steroids for the oil. If you could gain muscle by injecting grapeseed oil then you would never have to go any further than the grocery store. You need the hormone. That’s the whole basis for how steroids work. With me so far?
The hormone, which is a solid and measured by weight in mgs, is blended into the oil at a specific concentration. The volume of the oil is only relevant to the concentration of the hormone weight. Each ml in an ampule is filled with 250mg of hormone. There is no other 750mg of something that’s in there. Nothing. Not a single thing. The oil has no mg measurement because the oil is, again, a liquid. And how are liquids measured in this case? By the ml. If you want to take 250mg/w of sustanon then you’d inject 1ml per week. Full stop.
Dude, I pitty your children if this is how you try to educate someone 
take a chill pill or something. I’m just stating what is on the box and trying to figure it out as a newbie and working with doctors that are not very helpful.
Thank you for the explanation, appreciated.
Its also the most basic part of public schooling from grades 6-8
You already started taking something and you have no idea how to take it or how much you’re using. That is irresponsible in every conceivable way. Get educated before you endeavor to do something, not ex post facto. And FWIW you should be willing to eat the shit that I’m giving you because you screwed up and I’m the only one who’s helping you. So maybe keep the commentary about my parenting to yourself.
1000 mg =/= ml; except in the case of water. Since we’re not dealing with water, that conversion is invalid to this conversation.
mg and ml are, like @iron_yuppie stated, two different measurement systems were mg measures weight and ml measures volume.
Your testosterone has been brewed/manufactured to a potency of 250mg/ml (hence the name Sustanon 250). Meaning that for every ml of volume you inject, you get 250 mg of esterified testosterone. That’s it, it’s that simple; you’re not getting 750 mg of something else and you’re not injecting 1g of test for every ml. It seems as though you’re misunderstanding what your box is saying.
Another point Sustanon 250 is not considered an ideal long term compound as it’s a mix of short and long acting esters. You should consider switching to a single long acting ester such as Enanthate or Cypionate.
I will concur that if this basic knowledge is outside your scope, then you’re not ready to do steroids.
The idea with the ampoules is that you use the whole ampoule in a oner . . . . no waste. . . no leftover . . . . so you always just take the entire 1ml.
If you wanted to adjust your doseage rate, you would still take the entire 1ml, but inject it every 4, 5,6,7, or 8 days . . . . to give you a different weekly amount.
You might be getting mixed up re pure test suspension vs test-ester ? don’t worry about that, everyone just uses the concentration stated on the packaging because for the sake of comparison, it makes sense for everyone to use the same methodology
I was prescribed by the trt doctor but they issued 1ml every 14 days, This wasnt working for me with highs and lows so i increased it myself. What i’m trying to establish is how it is measured and if it is ok to increase to 1 shot per week as the trt doctors didnt recommend it.
As mentioned the confusion from my side is that i dont know what other variants there are of test as I have only used Sust250,
I dont know why docs think injecting once a fortnight is OK. . . . .most guys prefer once every 4 or 5 days. Eight days is probably a sensible stretch for sustanon. The prescribed total dose probably wasn’t far out tho . . . . if you had been given Sustanon 100 once every 7 days you might’ve responded much better. For the long term tho, you’re currently taking 250mg every week and thats a bit on the high side, what’s your weight ? the average bloke probably just needs 150 every week
Your doctor is utterly clueless. No shit that wasn’t working for you, it was a bad plan and nobody in their right mind would prescribe it that way any more. That’s a very old way of doing things and we know beyond all doubt that it’s ineffective and counterproductive. I recommend you find a new doctor, irrespective of anything else you do. You’re going to need someone who can help you and this guy/gal isn’t it.
Thanks Veteq, appreciate your reply. This has been a fast learning curve for me as im in my 40s and was never expecting to go on trt. I dont care for all the other drugs out there just want something for long term use to bring my T back to where it should be.
Sust250 is easy to access through a legit source at the pharmacy. It is designed for long term use from my understanding in the TRT community, maybe not the roid junkie community where popping anything to gain mass in accepted.
If your plan is to use sustanon long term then you should be splitting the dose and taking it twice a week. It’s still not ideal (there are a host of problems with that blend, but that’s beyond the beginner’s level) but you’ll have a much more even distribution and avoid some of the brutal peaks and troughs.
What problems are you referring to? Im new regarding the dosage amounts but have read up on side effects and havent seen anything too disturbing yet when consumed in a low dose.
Your giving him all the right answers and he doesn’t want to hear it. Smh
The problems with sustanon aren’t major. Please don’t think I’m saying it’s dangerous or anything like that. But the shortest ester (propionate) causes some serious spikes in your testosterone levels and for a lot of guys this makes managing e2 a lot trickier. The goal of trt is stability. With big spikes and dips you are by design creating instability. It would be a better blend if they cut out the prop entirely and just put weighted it a little more in the middle of the half-life curve instead of loading it heavy on the back and front ends.
I’m listening dude. Don’t need attitude in the process of sharing knowledge or information.
Constrictive feedback is respected, trying to put someone in their place being a keyboard warrior is old school.
Taking everything on board and listening to the feedback
cheers