1 Month into TRT, Questions

Hey guys,

I’m at 1 day past my 4th weekly injection of doctor prescribed 125mg sustanon 250 and I’ve got a few questions if any of you can help.

I don’t have any bloods yet my doctor wants to wait until the day before my 7th injection.

It’s more about the symptoms I’ve had and whether they are typical of the meds kicking in.

  1. For the past week between pin 3 and 4 I felt really shitty, pretty much as soon as the prop had worn off after about 24 hours.

I feel it lift my mood with the prop after about 3 hours and it quickly diminishes, anyway after about 24 hours I had kind of a tension headache across my forehead and behind my eyes and felt tired, like exhausted and irritable/snappy in bouts up until my 4th pin.

I don’t have any of the other side’s people report with high/low E2 like bloating or clicking joints and my blood pressure is roughly 110/65 ish whenever I check it.

Is this normal?

  1. I have periods between the crap bouts where I can go outside and everything just feels brighter, I feel pretty damn good. It kind of feels like you are standing taller and just feel nice and calm/grounded.

  2. Once I start doing something it’s like tunnel vision. I went out to weed the garden yesterday (3 weeks in a new house) then the Mrs said she was pissed off with the gates not opening, they’re heavy gates and had all dipped and were dragging on the floor.

I weeded the garden and removed and adjusted the height of all 3 gates without a second thought. In fact it was all I could think about haha.

This would have felt like a monumental btask pre trt and I’d have probably done it over the course of a week kicking and screaming like a depressed moody bitch.

I actually wanted to and enjoyed doing it yesterday.

  1. I’m a morning person so I’m always up with the baby and let the Mrs sleep in every day when she is not in work (I work evenings) she will shout me in to the bedroom when she wakes up and I swear to god I can feel myself getting a boner as soon as she shouts my name, the slightest contact anywhere when I’m in the bed and I’m standing to attention immediately.

  2. last night was the first time this has happened but it fucked my sleep up and I don’t know how long it lasted as I never checked the time, but I felt like I woke up a lot with a raging hard on.

It felt like it was just there all night. I didn’t even have a naughty dream, just a rock hard boner that seemed to never want to go even when I went to the toilet.

Like I said, I don’t have any bloods yet. I was at 10.6nmol with bloods done by my GP before starting a month ago and 9.9nmol with my trt docs bloods, that’s all I’ve got (I can’t find the full blood report my trt specialist doctor posted out) it’s somewhere in this new house.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts.

Ste

P.s. thanks for suggesting glute injections in my first thread when I was doing quads the pain is almost zero in comparison

I notice you use once a week injection which is very suboptimal and a very crappy ester that is not tolerated well by most people.

Try to inject ED cypionate and I bet you will feel much better

Thanks mate, the only options I have at the minute are Sustanon and Enanthate.

I’m private at the minute and the cost comparison at the minute is a little too much.

If my GP agrees with my trt doc and starts monitoring me on behalf I might be able to get my prescriptions on the NHS.

However as it stands a 1ml ampoule of sustanon is £3.50 while a 1ml ampoule of Enanthate is £15.

My doc writes a script for 12 ampoules at a time so it’s either £40 or £180 up front which is just too much at the minute.

I need to wait until my GP appointment just before my 7th pin to discuss monitoring on behalf of my trt doc.

If they can/will, I will switch to Enanthate, I’ll probably switch over anyway when my finances improve.

This month it seems like everything has just hit at once. I fucked my lower back and have had a month off work, we’ve moved house and had to pay 1 month and a security deposit up front.

We had to buy a new car and have had two of my children’s birthdays. My trt docs consultation and bills etc.

It’s totally wiped us out and next month isn’t looking any better, I’ve got to get school uniform for 4 kids two of which are older and need specialist uniforms from their secondary school.

I’m the best man for my brother and have had to organise his stag so have that coming up along with my wife attending the hen then I have two more kids birthdays (I need to stop fucking around Christmas haha)

But yeah I’m a bit fucked at the minute, however if my GP takes over my scrips it will be a flat fee of £9 for 12 ampoules of Enanthate which would be great. If not I’ll have to wait until the money levels out again.

Everything has hit at once and it’s been a disgusting few weeks so far.

Thanks for the advice though, do you think doing sustanon every other day or e3.5 days would be better than the one weekly 125mg injection?

Enanthate is much better. Order multi dose vials from ebay, store the test there with large needle and start injecting 25 or 30mg ED sub-q and you will see terrific improvement.

Sustanon ED will be much better that Sustanon once a week.

ED is generally always better. Think about this - you want fluctuations or steady levels? Simple simple logic bro. And sub-q injections - you don’t feel a shit the only problem the time needed to prepare the injection

Also your dosage seems quite low.

A friend of mine started 7 weeks ago 2 x 80mg enanthate and seems his dosage is quite low. I know we are biochemically unique but why do you think one of the best TRT doctors in the world starts his patients as a standard with 30mg ED?

With 125mg per week you are most probably replacing your testosterone and you want to optimize it to feel better.

You are UK right?

Here one ampule of enanthate in a Serbian Pharmacy is 1.7 pounds and 1 ampule of top quality cypionate from the dealer(pharmaceuitical) is 2.5 pounds. Come with a car and load yourself :smiley:

Haha I wish I had the money to do it, I’m in turkey in April and aparently it’s cheap over there too so I’ll stock up when I’m there if my GP doesn’t want to play ball.

Thanks for the info mate, do I just start right now with the ed injections or wait until next needle is due?

I cannot tell you about this. However if you inject once a week seems logical to me to wait 3 to 5 days after last injection to start ED.

From Turkey you can buy awesome drugs, they have excellent testosterone also, clomid, thyroid armour whatever you like and they don’t check at the border :smiley:

Thanks mate appreciate all the help. I’ll try it and see.

The way it is , you make a lot of sense, the prop albeit in a smaller dose would be hitting me daily. Which on its own gives me a nice little boost.

I live in Bulgarian and my bodybuilder friends often go there for steroids.

If there was a way I would send you cheap testosterone here bro but unfortunately cannot see how can this happen

Also be mentally prepared to feel bad some time always when you change protocol

Yeah I will do mate, I’m thinking about possibly doing the 6 weeks at 125mg per week since I’m nearly there to see where my levels and general overall feeling is.

Maybe I’ll feel good, if not then switch protocol from injection 7.

Normally its good to stay at least six weeks at one protocol yes. But once per week I do not see how you will feel good. Even if you do you can feel much better.

Thanks again mate, I’ll wait untill the next one then and start splitting it, I’ll probably have to get .5 ml syringes though to go that small in dose per day.

I’d need roughly 17.8mg of sustanon or 0.07ml juice per injection.

Would these be okay for every day dosing mate?

https://www.medisave.co.uk/bd-microfine-05ml-insulin-syringe-030mm-30g-8mm-x-100-p-101038.html

Maaan is this the price of 1 injection? This is crazy expensive

That’s a pack of 100 syringes and needles mate, would they be suitable for ed.

I’ve injected test and HCG with 27, it s very small and dont feel a thing. I don’t know if this is not too small.