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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

So that leaves about 35 people without a job…why would you interview 40? Lol sounds like a waste of time…eh, maybe you’re not that busy…

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You want to know how I know you’ve never been in any sort of management or leadership position in your entire life?

ANyway, yes, for the sake of everyone else, please continue to shun having a decent network. Save them the aggravation…[/quote]

Hahaa, I am a project manager. I lead international conference calls, I lead by example. I have no problem speaking in front of anyone, always was the first to initiate presentations.

I was the single reason two other students graduated college.

I’m not shunning it, just downplaying its importance :wink:

Fucking clown

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

Hahaa, I am a project manager. [/quote]

And?

This statement, by itself it utterly meaningless.

Okay. Is this supposed to be impressive?

Talking on the phone to people is now some sort of amazing life achievement because they happen to be standing in a country while on the phone with you?

The entire 8 months you’ve been there? Wow, how have you ever accomplished such a feat?

Yes, you are superhuman in your amazingness. You spoke in classes at college, just wow. I’m in total awe here.

Please, go on…

[quote]

Fucking clown[/quote]

Projection is an ugly practice.

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Carbiduis, I think everyone reading this thread knows who the clown is. I’m sure ‘project manager’ is an awesome job though.

As to the OP… am I the only one who noticed he’s 20 years old and a level 5 purchaser? I’ve spent waaaay too much money on here, over the course of 10 years, and I’m only halfway to being a level 5. Something tells me he’s gotten plenty of past support from his parents. I feel like abject poverty is not in this kid’s present or future.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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Honestly kind of saddens me that you did not take the time to read it, I mean it would take a couple minutes really.

You never know you may actually learn something from people older and more experienced than you. But again, good luck at your job.[/quote]

He’s been working for eight months, what could we possibly have to offer?[/quote]

Good point, and he has no network, so it isn’t like he could pass any info on to anyone else either.

Looks like everyone’s work here is done. [/quote]
Sorry got busy this morning hiring someone, instead of going expensive through monster or something like that, I just interviewed about 10 people from networking. [/quote]

So 9 out of 10 of those people, didn’t get the job…I bet they’re glad that they had some networking done it must have really paid off!

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Actually it can, this year alone I have interviewed about 40 paramedics and medics. Some that I did not hire for one job I ended up hiring for another. One guy I was able to refer him to a job that was actually closer to him, by me calling the manager of that site.

So your theory is that the 1000 people who apply for a job through monster all get a job? [/quote]

So that leaves about 35 people without a job…why would you interview 40? Lol sounds like a waste of time…eh, maybe you’re not that busy…

Yes, as I have said several* times* out of 1000 people who apply through monster and monster alone, all 1000 will have a job in no less than 3 days, sometimes the number comes out to 1000+ people getting hired cause they like the applicant so much they tell them that they will hire a friend or family member, cause that’s how networking works.[/quote]
Lol, sorry no way Monster is 100%

I have launched 3 job sites this year and turned over a whole crew at one, so the reason I interviewed 40.

I think you are a little miss-informed about hiring friend or a family in networking, yes that happens of course. But that is a very minimal aspect of it.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]

It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]

This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]

Question.

Have you started one of these jobs you were hired at? [/quote]

Answer

Yes. Been at my job for 8mo
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I am sure you have caught up on this thread by now.

Glad you are employed.

Carry on[/quote]

Nope, what did I miss???

Something tells me that you were hoping my answer to your question was going to be “no” and that the only Interviews I had were at BS headhunting agencies leavi me with no job, hmmm?

I highly doubt you asked such a simple question just to get me to read this entire thread

carry on, eh?[/quote]
Honestly kind of saddens me that you did not take the time to read it, I mean it would take a couple minutes really.

You never know you may actually learn something from people older and more experienced than you. But again, good luck at your job.[/quote]

What do you Call A retard with experience? …a retard. I’ve had enough garbage advice from people with “experience” to realize that experience doesn’t mean everything. A lot of idiots out there pull the experience card cause they don’t have anything else to point to for credentials

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So you have nobody in your field that is more experienced or advanced than you?

I have 20 years of medical experience and a masters degree. The same person just coming out of school has a masters degree also but 0 years of medical experience.

But we are equal? [/quote]

The owner of my company (44 yrs experience)
The vp of engineering (35 yrs experience)
My boss (20 yrs) experience.

They are all engineers and I keep my mouth shut and ears open when I am around them…but oddly enough, not a single one of them EVER cites how much experience they have (they are all engineers, this is a large reason I respect them and listen to them)

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb). He starts lunch 5 min early, and leaves everyday 5 min early.

The more I hear someone make the experience argument the less likely I am to listen to them, again cause they are falling back on it cause it’s all they have

BEEN DOIN IT WRONG FOR SEVEN YEARS LONG!!!
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So there are people you do respect that is promising.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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Perhaps the reason said poster shuns networking is he has a foul personality, and is thus poor at it, in that people that get to know him, don’t like him.

At least that is what I’ve gathered here.

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Carbiduis, I think everyone reading this thread knows who the clown is. I’m sure ‘project manager’ is an awesome job though.

As to the OP… am I the only one who noticed he’s 20 years old and a level 5 purchaser? I’ve spent waaaay too much money on here, over the course of 10 years, and I’m only halfway to being a level 5. Something tells me he’s gotten plenty of past support from his parents. I feel like abject poverty is not in this kid’s present or future.[/quote]

I have a feeling I know what “project manager” really is when referring to Carbiduis. He has some sort of engineering degree from what I’ve gathered.

My father is the senior project manager and lead inspector at a major university in California. He is oversees eight- or nine-figure jobs, such as building new dorms, laboratories, classrooms, libraries, gyms, etc, etc. He routinely hires people right out of college with an engineering degree of some sort for the position of project manager.

Basically, it’s an over-glorified inspection job, where you walk around with a hardhat on and make sure that the contractors and their employees are following proper safety procedures and doing their work in accordance with the Uniform Building Code. It’s a fancy name attached to what is essentially a babysitting job for people who resent your very presence on the job site. Whenever anything goes wrong, they can’t even do shit. They just call my dad up and he comes down to the job site and kicks some ass while the “project manager” stands behind him with a shit-eating grin on their face.

This might not be what Carbiduis does, but I’ve learned enough over the years to ascertain that Carbiduis has a VERY inflated sense of self-worth, which fits the bill perfectly with the sort of project manager I’m thinking of. Maybe he works in an entirely different field than what I have described, but I’m sure that whatever area he works in, he’s vastly overstating his importance to the company and most of his co-workers would probably laugh at his worthless, misguided attempts at making himself look important.

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb).
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This says far more about you than you know. Odds are, your draftsman is right.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Carbiduis, I think everyone reading this thread knows who the clown is. I’m sure ‘project manager’ is an awesome job though.

As to the OP… am I the only one who noticed he’s 20 years old and a level 5 purchaser? I’ve spent waaaay too much money on here, over the course of 10 years, and I’m only halfway to being a level 5. Something tells me he’s gotten plenty of past support from his parents. I feel like abject poverty is not in this kid’s present or future.[/quote]

I have a feeling I know what “project manager” really is when referring to Carbiduis. He has some sort of engineering degree from what I’ve gathered.

My father is the senior project manager and lead inspector at a major university in California. He is oversees eight- or nine-figure jobs, such as building new dorms, laboratories, classrooms, libraries, gyms, etc, etc. He routinely hires people right out of college with an engineering degree of some sort for the position of project manager.

Basically, it’s an over-glorified inspection job, where you walk around with a hardhat on and make sure that the contractors and their employees are following proper safety procedures and doing their work in accordance with the Uniform Building Code. It’s a fancy name attached to what is essentially a babysitting job for people who resent your very presence on the job site. Whenever anything goes wrong, they can’t even do shit. They just call my dad up and he comes down to the job site and kicks some ass while the “project manager” stands behind him with a shit-eating grin on their face.

This might not be what Carbiduis does, but I’ve learned enough over the years to ascertain that Carbiduis has a VERY inflated sense of self-worth, which fits the bill perfectly with the sort of project manager I’m thinking of. Maybe he works in an entirely different field than what I have described, but I’m sure that whatever area he works in, he’s vastly overstating his importance to the company and most of his co-workers would probably laugh at his worthless, misguided attempts at making himself look important.

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My guess is Carbidius does essentially this. Since he said something about his extraordinary ability to talk on the phone, he may do most of this from behind a desk. Same concept though.

I’ve known people who are really good at making phone calls. They’re generally in the age range of 13-19, and female. My wife is good at this too. So is my secretary.

I had a roommate in college who was a project manager and did exactly what DB described for a time DURING college. He was a Music Performance major who later switched to Philosophy. He talked on the phone a lot too, and owned several hard hats. I believe he made mostly local calls though. Upon completion of his Piano-playing degree, he may have been allowed to make international calls. I’ll call him and ask if this was the case.

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb).
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This says far more about you than you know. Odds are, your draftsman is right.
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For realz.

I was a captain on my base. I realized very quickly that even though I outranked many of the people working around me, there was a shit load of “etiquette” and experience to be learned from some of those sergeants who had been in the military for a decade longer than I had.

The idiot would be the guy thinking that rank took the place of experience.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb).
[/quote]

This says far more about you than you know. Odds are, your draftsman is right.
[/quote]

For realz.

I was a captain on my base. I realized very quickly that even though I outranked many of the people working around me, there was a shit load of “etiquette” and experience to be learned from some of those sergeants who had been in the military for a decade longer than I had.

The idiot would be the guy thinking that rank took the place of experience.[/quote]

This, for sure.

My foreman has been with my company since the mid 80s. I was born in 83. I’m his boss, and I’ve been in my position for about 5 years. I can’t imagine talking about him the way this guy’s talking about his drafter. My foreman does his job a hell of a lot better than I could. I’ve been learning from him since my first day. When he’s told me I’m doing something wrong, I listen.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

Hahaa, I am a project manager. [/quote]

And?

This statement, by itself it utterly meaningless.

Okay. Is this supposed to be impressive?

Talking on the phone to people is now some sort of amazing life achievement because they happen to be standing in a country while on the phone with you?

The entire 8 months you’ve been there? Wow, how have you ever accomplished such a feat?

Yes, you are superhuman in your amazingness. You spoke in classes at college, just wow. I’m in total awe here.

Please, go on…

[quote]

Fucking clown[/quote]

Projection is an ugly practice. [/quote]

Oh Im sorry honey, I thought someone here said something about being in a management type position…

You attacked me saying I didn’t have any leadership skills etc. So I point out a few things that may help you realize otherwise. You can hop from point to point, attack and attack but you leave a nasty trail of unresolved areas, but hey, I know this is how all the kids are doing it these days so dont worry, you look real good right now infront of the TNATION GAL circle jerk

Im not going to reward you with more details of my life/character and who I am. I’ve gotten this same response for years, Ive doubted myself, but my doubts always ended up wrong. Until you meet me and see how I operate you’ll never have a clue, you just wont.

But I see you, you generic guy you. God created you with the copy paste funciton, enjoy your place within the printable area.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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Honestly kind of saddens me that you did not take the time to read it, I mean it would take a couple minutes really.

You never know you may actually learn something from people older and more experienced than you. But again, good luck at your job.[/quote]

He’s been working for eight months, what could we possibly have to offer?[/quote]

Good point, and he has no network, so it isn’t like he could pass any info on to anyone else either.

Looks like everyone’s work here is done. [/quote]
Sorry got busy this morning hiring someone, instead of going expensive through monster or something like that, I just interviewed about 10 people from networking. [/quote]

So 9 out of 10 of those people, didn’t get the job…I bet they’re glad that they had some networking done it must have really paid off!

[/quote]
Actually it can, this year alone I have interviewed about 40 paramedics and medics. Some that I did not hire for one job I ended up hiring for another. One guy I was able to refer him to a job that was actually closer to him, by me calling the manager of that site.

So your theory is that the 1000 people who apply for a job through monster all get a job? [/quote]

So that leaves about 35 people without a job…why would you interview 40? Lol sounds like a waste of time…eh, maybe you’re not that busy…

Yes, as I have said several* times* out of 1000 people who apply through monster and monster alone, all 1000 will have a job in no less than 3 days, sometimes the number comes out to 1000+ people getting hired cause they like the applicant so much they tell them that they will hire a friend or family member, cause that’s how networking works.[/quote]
Lol, sorry no way Monster is 100%

I have launched 3 job sites this year and turned over a whole crew at one, so the reason I interviewed 40.

I think you are a little miss-informed about hiring friend or a family in networking, yes that happens of course. But that is a very minimal aspect of it.
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whoa dude, poes law? Unless youre just better at it than me…monster is 101% actually, check the numbers again

3 job sites and an entire crew? sounds daunting dude

Well being that everytime someone talked baout networkign it always involved a friend or family member…If were talking about proving oneself in the field, getting their name out there, and then connecting with other people in the same or similar field to further ones career than…yea, no shit.

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[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]

It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]

This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]

Question.

Have you started one of these jobs you were hired at? [/quote]

Answer

Yes. Been at my job for 8mo
[/quote]
I am sure you have caught up on this thread by now.

Glad you are employed.

Carry on[/quote]

Nope, what did I miss???

Something tells me that you were hoping my answer to your question was going to be “no” and that the only Interviews I had were at BS headhunting agencies leavi me with no job, hmmm?

I highly doubt you asked such a simple question just to get me to read this entire thread

carry on, eh?[/quote]
Honestly kind of saddens me that you did not take the time to read it, I mean it would take a couple minutes really.

You never know you may actually learn something from people older and more experienced than you. But again, good luck at your job.[/quote]

What do you Call A retard with experience? …a retard. I’ve had enough garbage advice from people with “experience” to realize that experience doesn’t mean everything. A lot of idiots out there pull the experience card cause they don’t have anything else to point to for credentials

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So you have nobody in your field that is more experienced or advanced than you?

I have 20 years of medical experience and a masters degree. The same person just coming out of school has a masters degree also but 0 years of medical experience.

But we are equal? [/quote]

The owner of my company (44 yrs experience)
The vp of engineering (35 yrs experience)
My boss (20 yrs) experience.

They are all engineers and I keep my mouth shut and ears open when I am around them…but oddly enough, not a single one of them EVER cites how much experience they have (they are all engineers, this is a large reason I respect them and listen to them)

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb). He starts lunch 5 min early, and leaves everyday 5 min early.

The more I hear someone make the experience argument the less likely I am to listen to them, again cause they are falling back on it cause it’s all they have

BEEN DOIN IT WRONG FOR SEVEN YEARS LONG!!!
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So there are people you do respect that is promising. [/quote]

Yes but this is attributed to more than their experience alone…and even more than their title, position and education

…It has to do more with who THEY, that one person is

Why do I have to explain this to you?

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:
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Perhaps the reason said poster shuns networking is he has a foul personality, and is thus poor at it, in that people that get to know him, don’t like him.

At least that is what I’ve gathered here.[/quote]

yea, out of school I had had 2 job offers after 2 job interviews (for engineering position only)…not a large sample population by any stretch of the imagination, but I know how to present myself and interact with others.

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[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Carbiduis, I think everyone reading this thread knows who the clown is. I’m sure ‘project manager’ is an awesome job though.

As to the OP… am I the only one who noticed he’s 20 years old and a level 5 purchaser? I’ve spent waaaay too much money on here, over the course of 10 years, and I’m only halfway to being a level 5. Something tells me he’s gotten plenty of past support from his parents. I feel like abject poverty is not in this kid’s present or future.[/quote]

I have a feeling I know what “project manager” really is when referring to Carbiduis. He has some sort of engineering degree from what I’ve gathered.

My father is the senior project manager and lead inspector at a major university in California. He is oversees eight- or nine-figure jobs, such as building new dorms, laboratories, classrooms, libraries, gyms, etc, etc. He routinely hires people right out of college with an engineering degree of some sort for the position of project manager.

Basically, it’s an over-glorified inspection job, where you walk around with a hardhat on and make sure that the contractors and their employees are following proper safety procedures and doing their work in accordance with the Uniform Building Code. It’s a fancy name attached to what is essentially a babysitting job for people who resent your very presence on the job site. Whenever anything goes wrong, they can’t even do shit. They just call my dad up and he comes down to the job site and kicks some ass while the “project manager” stands behind him with a shit-eating grin on their face.

This might not be what Carbiduis does, but I’ve learned enough over the years to ascertain that Carbiduis has a VERY inflated sense of self-worth, which fits the bill perfectly with the sort of project manager I’m thinking of. Maybe he works in an entirely different field than what I have described, but I’m sure that whatever area he works in, he’s vastly overstating his importance to the company and most of his co-workers would probably laugh at his worthless, misguided attempts at making himself look important.

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HEY EVERYONE THE BABYSITTER IS HERE !!!

B.S. in Mechanical Engineering, but we’ll give it to ya!

Your attempt to describe my job is laughable, but OF COURSE it over glorified numbnuts. Shit, few people in this wolrd (and none in this forum) are truely as important as they think they are.

So by your elaborate description of daddy coming down to clean up, you are there every single time that happens huh? And they all do it? Everyones the same?..huh?

Theres only one babysitter here and it isnt me.

I acutally deal with…well…other project managers that happen to be engineers themselves.

Aaaannd…you goddam right I have a fucking high opinion of myself, chump. And for no other reason that I have PROVEN to myself who I am only after many years of doubt, following advice of my peers, people like you, and some with more experience…problem was, they never had experience with ME

how are the kids, the coke, and the ole hag??

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:
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Honestly kind of saddens me that you did not take the time to read it, I mean it would take a couple minutes really.

You never know you may actually learn something from people older and more experienced than you. But again, good luck at your job.[/quote]

He’s been working for eight months, what could we possibly have to offer?[/quote]

Good point, and he has no network, so it isn’t like he could pass any info on to anyone else either.

Looks like everyone’s work here is done. [/quote]
Sorry got busy this morning hiring someone, instead of going expensive through monster or something like that, I just interviewed about 10 people from networking. [/quote]

So 9 out of 10 of those people, didn’t get the job…I bet they’re glad that they had some networking done it must have really paid off!

[/quote]
Actually it can, this year alone I have interviewed about 40 paramedics and medics. Some that I did not hire for one job I ended up hiring for another. One guy I was able to refer him to a job that was actually closer to him, by me calling the manager of that site.

So your theory is that the 1000 people who apply for a job through monster all get a job? [/quote]

So that leaves about 35 people without a job…why would you interview 40? Lol sounds like a waste of time…eh, maybe you’re not that busy…

Yes, as I have said several* times* out of 1000 people who apply through monster and monster alone, all 1000 will have a job in no less than 3 days, sometimes the number comes out to 1000+ people getting hired cause they like the applicant so much they tell them that they will hire a friend or family member, cause that’s how networking works.[/quote]
Lol, sorry no way Monster is 100%

I have launched 3 job sites this year and turned over a whole crew at one, so the reason I interviewed 40.

I think you are a little miss-informed about hiring friend or a family in networking, yes that happens of course. But that is a very minimal aspect of it.
[/quote]

whoa dude, poes law? Unless youre just better at it than me…monster is 101% actually, check the numbers again

3 job sites and an entire crew? sounds daunting dude

Well being that everytime someone talked baout networkign it always involved a friend or family member…If were talking about proving oneself in the field, getting their name out there, and then connecting with other people in the same or similar field to further ones career than…yea, no shit.[/quote]
Just never had success with monster, way, way too much and to many people apply. These are medical jobs I manage AND in the petrochemical, energy and mining field.

I came to Houston knowing absolutely no one, I built a network of people, some friends others just people I know that can work. People have gotten jobs with me not knowing me at all, through people that work for me and I have gotten them jobs with people that I know.

Business is done like this, IF you are an engineer and work in the field I do, networking will be important.

Just my .02

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[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]

It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]

This is not always true.

I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.

Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.

I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.

My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.

95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]

Question.

Have you started one of these jobs you were hired at? [/quote]

Answer

Yes. Been at my job for 8mo
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I am sure you have caught up on this thread by now.

Glad you are employed.

Carry on[/quote]

Nope, what did I miss???

Something tells me that you were hoping my answer to your question was going to be “no” and that the only Interviews I had were at BS headhunting agencies leavi me with no job, hmmm?

I highly doubt you asked such a simple question just to get me to read this entire thread

carry on, eh?[/quote]
Honestly kind of saddens me that you did not take the time to read it, I mean it would take a couple minutes really.

You never know you may actually learn something from people older and more experienced than you. But again, good luck at your job.[/quote]

What do you Call A retard with experience? …a retard. I’ve had enough garbage advice from people with “experience” to realize that experience doesn’t mean everything. A lot of idiots out there pull the experience card cause they don’t have anything else to point to for credentials

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So you have nobody in your field that is more experienced or advanced than you?

I have 20 years of medical experience and a masters degree. The same person just coming out of school has a masters degree also but 0 years of medical experience.

But we are equal? [/quote]

The owner of my company (44 yrs experience)
The vp of engineering (35 yrs experience)
My boss (20 yrs) experience.

They are all engineers and I keep my mouth shut and ears open when I am around them…but oddly enough, not a single one of them EVER cites how much experience they have (they are all engineers, this is a large reason I respect them and listen to them)

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb). He starts lunch 5 min early, and leaves everyday 5 min early.

The more I hear someone make the experience argument the less likely I am to listen to them, again cause they are falling back on it cause it’s all they have

BEEN DOIN IT WRONG FOR SEVEN YEARS LONG!!!
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So there are people you do respect that is promising. [/quote]

Yes but this is attributed to more than their experience alone…and even more than their title, position and education

…It has to do more with who THEY, that one person is[/quote]
I get it, for you respect has to be earned, my only question is with this, How do you treat someone in a superior position that has yet to earn that respect?

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]carbiduis wrote:

My shitsmear drafter has been at the company for 7 yrs (WAYYYYYY MORE EXPERIENCE THAN I HAVE!!!) and touts his experience left and right and even goes so far as to tell me that I don’t know what I am talking about (engineers are dumb).
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This says far more about you than you know. Odds are, your draftsman is right.
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Actually, what you just did, says more about you.

This specific drafter is known for being a shitsmear, few people like him. He is 50 yrs old and lives with his parents, no wife no kids. Hes hard to work with, he skips out early EVERYDAY (i pointed that out to give a glimpse into his personality but you just looked right past that, didnt ya?

Its funny that this confirmed wart that I work with makes the same argument that people in this forum are making …hmmmmmm…

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[quote]flipcollar wrote:

[quote]DBCooper wrote:

[quote]flipcollar wrote:
Carbiduis, I think everyone reading this thread knows who the clown is. I’m sure ‘project manager’ is an awesome job though.

As to the OP… am I the only one who noticed he’s 20 years old and a level 5 purchaser? I’ve spent waaaay too much money on here, over the course of 10 years, and I’m only halfway to being a level 5. Something tells me he’s gotten plenty of past support from his parents. I feel like abject poverty is not in this kid’s present or future.[/quote]

I have a feeling I know what “project manager” really is when referring to Carbiduis. He has some sort of engineering degree from what I’ve gathered.

My father is the senior project manager and lead inspector at a major university in California. He is oversees eight- or nine-figure jobs, such as building new dorms, laboratories, classrooms, libraries, gyms, etc, etc. He routinely hires people right out of college with an engineering degree of some sort for the position of project manager.

Basically, it’s an over-glorified inspection job, where you walk around with a hardhat on and make sure that the contractors and their employees are following proper safety procedures and doing their work in accordance with the Uniform Building Code. It’s a fancy name attached to what is essentially a babysitting job for people who resent your very presence on the job site. Whenever anything goes wrong, they can’t even do shit. They just call my dad up and he comes down to the job site and kicks some ass while the “project manager” stands behind him with a shit-eating grin on their face.

This might not be what Carbiduis does, but I’ve learned enough over the years to ascertain that Carbiduis has a VERY inflated sense of self-worth, which fits the bill perfectly with the sort of project manager I’m thinking of. Maybe he works in an entirely different field than what I have described, but I’m sure that whatever area he works in, he’s vastly overstating his importance to the company and most of his co-workers would probably laugh at his worthless, misguided attempts at making himself look important.

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My guess is Carbidius does essentially this. Since he said something about his extraordinary ability to talk on the phone, he may do most of this from behind a desk. Same concept though.

I’ve known people who are really good at making phone calls. They’re generally in the age range of 13-19, and female. My wife is good at this too. So is my secretary.

I had a roommate in college who was a project manager and did exactly what DB described for a time DURING college. He was a Music Performance major who later switched to Philosophy. He talked on the phone a lot too, and owned several hard hats. I believe he made mostly local calls though. Upon completion of his Piano-playing degree, he may have been allowed to make international calls. I’ll call him and ask if this was the case.[/quote]

Yes cause everyone knows how much engineers are known for their communication skills…fuck you dont get it.

Just a hint…The conversations I have arent about the episode of the bachelor from the night before, or what zumba class to attend…so although it doesnt sound like a admirable skill to someone like you, its something that is hugely neccessary for what I do, and wshit wouldnt get done as quickly if it were someone else.

Well…between your roommate and DBs dads peons, you guys have me all figured out I guess…I think beans was looking for more details on my life, would you let him know the rest???