Recently I have been thrown out of my house, been forcibly unemployed because my job went out of business, I have no money for food or gas, my diabetes is getting bad, i am having trouble getting hired anywhefe else and my gf who is barely able to fend for herself is supporting me.
I am not usually the type to ask for advice…but what do I do? How do you all survive such circumstances. I have been trying to keep my head down and move forward but it is proving to be increasingly more difficult.
I’ve always found that knowing proper grammar helps me through a lot of really tough situations. But that’s just me.
Good to know. I have this problem called not having a computer to see what I typed after I typed it. I’m using my phone but thanks for having for nothing to contribute you’ve been a great help.
[quote]kjmont wrote:
Good to know. I have this problem called not having a computer to see what I typed after I typed it. I’m using my phone but thanks for having for nothing to contribute you’ve been a great help.[/quote]
Dude, seriously. What can I tell you that you don’t already know? And if you don’t already know it then you’re helpless anyways. I don’t know what job you used to have, I don’t know what sort of education or job skills you have, I don’t know why you were kicked out of your house and I don’t know what steps you have already taken to dig yourself out of this hole.
What do you expect people to tell you on this site? Keep your head up? Stick with it and good things will happen? PIIHB? I don’t know how you expect any sort of tangible advice given how little you’ve told us.
You know what I did the last time I was unemployed and had trouble finding a job? First of all, I immediately cut down on all expenditures that weren’t totally necessary for survival. So the first thing I would do if I were you is get rid of the iPhone or Blackberry or whatever it is that you get Internet service from, head down to MetroPCS and get the cheapest phone they have and sign up for their cheapest plan.
After that, cancel your gym membership. If you need Internet access regularly, go to Starbucks or the library or somewhere else where it’s free to use. And when you’re on the Internet, don’t come onto this site. Start going onto every single job website you can find and apply for or submit your resume for every single possible job you have any sort of qualifications for. Hell, apply to the ones you aren’t qualified for, too. What’s the worst that could happen? You don’t get hired?
Turn in an application to every single business in your area, even if it means applying to the Starbucks you’re getting your Internet from or Home Depot or The Gap or fucking Burger King. Minimum wage is better than no wage.
That’s the first thing you need to do and it needs to be the number one priority in your life right now. Get a job, any job. If you’re not working you can’t pay your bills, buy food/gas or have any sort of health insurance. And don’t not apply to a job simply because they don’t offer benefits. You aren’t in a position to turn anything down.
If you do drugs or drink, stop immediately. If that is the reason why you have been kicked out of your house you might want to go to a 12-step meeting of some sort. Shit, you might even find someone who could help you out with some work under the table or something like that.
Are you handy with tools? Do you have any construction experience? Do you know how to dig? Go down to Home Depot each morning at about 5:30am and wait out front with all the Mexicans there. If you don’t get picked up for some work, so what? You have nothing to lose. Shit, maybe you get picked up for some menial labor and the guy likes your attitude enough to throw you some more side jobs.
I know that the economy is tough right now and that unemployment is up around 10%, which is pretty high. But guess what? That means that 90% of the workforce has a job of some sort, so your chances of finding a job are pretty good if you try hard enough.
And fuck all the “stay positive” and “think good thoughts” bullshit. Just SHOW UP for life and good things MIGHT happen. Nowhere is it written that you are owed anything or that good things will happen if you just keep a positive attitude. You have to actually get off your ass, stop posting on this site, and go out and make things happen for you on your own. The world is a harsh place and only the strong survive. So man up, stop with the pity party and come to terms with the fact that people like me don’t give one flying fuck about your problems. We have our own shit to deal with already. I have a fucking job, I have bills to pay, I have drug addicts/alcoholics calling me for help all the time (many of whom are worse off than you are), I have property to take care of, I have a family that I have to be present for, etc etc.
That may sound harsh, but that’s the way life is. It’s rough out there, so you can wallow in it or you can adjust your attitude so that you find some sadistic, perverse pleasure in living in a world like that. Embrace the misery in your life rather than wallow in it.
Here’s a little pep talk for you:
[quote]kjmont wrote:
Recently I have been thrown out of my house, been forcibly unemployed because my job went out of business, I have no money for food or gas, my diabetes is getting bad, i am having trouble getting hired anywhefe else and my gf who is barely able to fend for herself is supporting me.
I am not usually the type to ask for advice…but what do I do? How do you all survive such circumstances. I have been trying to keep my head down and move forward but it is proving to be increasingly more difficult. [/quote]
I have diabetes too and when I lived at home I can’t imagine my parents not helping me out with that even if we were at odds over something. That’s straight up life and death stuff man. I really wish you the best, if you were fighting with your parents I think the smart thing to do is tuck your tail between your legs and see if you can move back in until you get stuff sorted out.
Actually this has helped since I completely forgot my phone and gym membership, and i dont mind advice that sounds harsh as long as its true . Also my post wasnt lengtht because i wanted to avoid rambling and im am not sure what is relevant info to be honest. And I guess the info that would be most helpful is making it long term in a homeless situation if this continues.
I can’t offer any concrete or practical advice but just tell you that you’re keeping your head about you is good and just do your best and don’t give up.
But I do hate when I talk into my phone and it prints the wrong word and I hit send and I can’t edit it.
[quote]kjmont wrote:
Actually this has helped since I completely forgot my phone and gym membership, and i dont mind advice that sounds harsh as long as its true . Also my post wasnt lengtht because i wanted to avoid rambling and im am not sure what is relevant info to be honest. And I guess the info that would be most helpful is making it long term in a homeless situation if this continues.[/quote]
If you are homeless, crash on a friend’s couch or at your girlfriend’s house. If those aren’t options live in your vehicle or try one of the homeless shelters in your area. It’s a tough pill to swallow, but you know what? You don’t have any other choice. I’ve known heroin addicts who were living on the streets, had multiple felony convictions and no high school diploma who have pulled themselves out of the shit and got their life back together. So there’s no excuse for you not to be able to do the same. It may be hard, it may require some personal sacrifices and blows to your ego, you may have to sell a bunch of shit you really, really like, but guess what? You can’t take it with you when you die anyways, so who fucking cares?
Have you ever seen “Everything Must Go”, starring Will Ferrell? If not, I recommend it, as long as you can find a way to watch it without spending any money to do so. If you don’t NEED it, get rid of it, including all your gym membership. The fact is, working out a gym is a privilege, and one that should be high on the list of things to get rid of when you don’t have a job. Want to stay in shape? There’s plenty of ways to do so without spending money on it. So unless you’re earning money by being in shape, cut that shit out of your life. Same with the expensive phone and the Netflix account and that sort of thing. You’d be amazed at how much easier life gets when you just simplify shit and get down to the basics. Who knows? Maybe this time in your life could be a good thing in the long run. Maybe you’ll gain some much-needed perspective.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]kjmont wrote:
Good to know. I have this problem called not having a computer to see what I typed after I typed it. I’m using my phone but thanks for having for nothing to contribute you’ve been a great help.[/quote]
Dude, seriously. What can I tell you that you don’t already know? And if you don’t already know it then you’re helpless anyways. I don’t know what job you used to have, I don’t know what sort of education or job skills you have, I don’t know why you were kicked out of your house and I don’t know what steps you have already taken to dig yourself out of this hole.
What do you expect people to tell you on this site? Keep your head up? Stick with it and good things will happen? PIIHB? I don’t know how you expect any sort of tangible advice given how little you’ve told us.
You know what I did the last time I was unemployed and had trouble finding a job? First of all, I immediately cut down on all expenditures that weren’t totally necessary for survival. So the first thing I would do if I were you is get rid of the iPhone or Blackberry or whatever it is that you get Internet service from, head down to MetroPCS and get the cheapest phone they have and sign up for their cheapest plan.
After that, cancel your gym membership. If you need Internet access regularly, go to Starbucks or the library or somewhere else where it’s free to use. And when you’re on the Internet, don’t come onto this site. Start going onto every single job website you can find and apply for or submit your resume for every single possible job you have any sort of qualifications for. Hell, apply to the ones you aren’t qualified for, too. What’s the worst that could happen? You don’t get hired?
Turn in an application to every single business in your area, even if it means applying to the Starbucks you’re getting your Internet from or Home Depot or The Gap or fucking Burger King. Minimum wage is better than no wage.
That’s the first thing you need to do and it needs to be the number one priority in your life right now. Get a job, any job. If you’re not working you can’t pay your bills, buy food/gas or have any sort of health insurance. And don’t not apply to a job simply because they don’t offer benefits. You aren’t in a position to turn anything down.
If you do drugs or drink, stop immediately. If that is the reason why you have been kicked out of your house you might want to go to a 12-step meeting of some sort. Shit, you might even find someone who could help you out with some work under the table or something like that.
Are you handy with tools? Do you have any construction experience? Do you know how to dig? Go down to Home Depot each morning at about 5:30am and wait out front with all the Mexicans there. If you don’t get picked up for some work, so what? You have nothing to lose. Shit, maybe you get picked up for some menial labor and the guy likes your attitude enough to throw you some more side jobs.
I know that the economy is tough right now and that unemployment is up around 10%, which is pretty high. But guess what? That means that 90% of the workforce has a job of some sort, so your chances of finding a job are pretty good if you try hard enough.
And fuck all the “stay positive” and “think good thoughts” bullshit. Just SHOW UP for life and good things MIGHT happen. Nowhere is it written that you are owed anything or that good things will happen if you just keep a positive attitude. You have to actually get off your ass, stop posting on this site, and go out and make things happen for you on your own. The world is a harsh place and only the strong survive. So man up, stop with the pity party and come to terms with the fact that people like me don’t give one flying fuck about your problems. We have our own shit to deal with already. I have a fucking job, I have bills to pay, I have drug addicts/alcoholics calling me for help all the time (many of whom are worse off than you are), I have property to take care of, I have a family that I have to be present for, etc etc.
That may sound harsh, but that’s the way life is. It’s rough out there, so you can wallow in it or you can adjust your attitude so that you find some sadistic, perverse pleasure in living in a world like that. Embrace the misery in your life rather than wallow in it.
Here’s a little pep talk for you:
Great stuff DB. That’s beautiful. I’m saving this.
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]kjmont wrote:
Glengarry Ross speech is lame as hell stop posting it, its just the circlejerking the love for corporate America.
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]DBCooper wrote:
[quote]kjmont wrote:
Glengarry Ross speech is lame as hell stop posting it, its just the circlejerking the love for corporate America.[/quote]
Well, if you want to succeed in America, you can beat 'em or you can join 'em. Doesn’t sound like the OP stands much of a chance of beating them, so he better learn how to goosestep in proper corporate America cadence, because that’s the reality of the country we live in.
Like Patrick Bateman wisely said, and I’m paraphrasing a bit here, he needs to learn how to love the pleasures of conformity and the importance of trends. The conformity and trends in this sense is that you win or you lose, you sink or you swim, you close or you get fucking fired. Conform to the Darwinistic nature of life and learn that the trend is that the weak get eaten by the strong, or you get fucking fired.
You don’t like the Glengarry Glenross speech? Fine. But the overall gist of the speech is to grow a fucking pair, sack up and do whatever you have to do to get ahead in life. If that means sucking a fucking corporate cock, then DO IT.
I’m so sick of all this bullshit slave morality that elevates weak qualities that only serve to weaken society above master morality virtues like strength, courage and so forth. The human race hasn’t survived by taking pity on the weak and being humble and compassionate. The human race has survived by understanding that it takes action and strength in the face of adversity to make it in life. To somehow find virtue in weakness or this false rebel attitude in which there is more virtue in being weak and poor but CHOOSING this path out of some warped battle against “the system” or “corporatism” or whatever other false evil you want to assign what it is that is stronger than you are only serves to undermine life itself. You should read Nietzsche’s “Beyond Good and Evil” or “The Genealogy of Morals”.
The life that survives, that thrives in the harsh world we live in, is the one that is strong, the one that closes, in Glengarry Glenross parlance. If you want to survive in this society, you have to be strong, you have to have a job and you have to understand that people don’t give a shit about your pitiful problems because life is a zero sum game and your loss is their gain. Embrace that reality. Just like if you want to work in Alec Baldwin’s company you either close or you hit the bricks, pal. So, Put. That Coffee. Down.
Sometimes when the shit hits the fan you should just stop throwing it.
File for unemployment and food stamps.
Develop a plan for employment.
Apply for 10 jobs by X-date.
Show up at job sites ready to work. No matter how shitty the job don’t complain, just work hard and STFU.
Sleep in your car and keep a cheap ass gym membership so you can shower and look respectable.
Dumpster dive for food. Supermarkets throw away tons of food.
Learn to eat road kill. I’d go for deer it’s pretty easy to tell a fresh deer. you can cut the loins and hind quarters off. Avoid bruised and broken areas. Cut into thin slices and smoke over a fire for 4-5 hours and bang you have jerky.
Being homeless in spring and summer is much better than winter.
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.
[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]
It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge!
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]
It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]
This is not always true.
I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.
Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.
I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.
My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.
95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
This is not always true.
I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.
Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.
I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.
My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.
95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]
This is what we call your experience lol. That’s not what I’ve seen from most people I’ve encountered. But I’m sure since you did it that your made up stat is accurate haha.
[quote]carbiduis wrote:
[quote]Captnoblivious wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
Ask every single person you’ve ever met if their place of work is hiring anyone or any place they have a contact in. In my experience you can apply to random jobs online till you’re blue in the face, but the only way you’re ever gonna actually get a job is through networking.[/quote]
It’s not what you know, it’s who you know. Networking is huge![/quote]
This is not always true.
I applied to 10 jobs off of websites like careerbuilder and monster. Got 2 interviews and 2 job offers and I knew no one associated with either company.
Everyone that we hire is a random person, no networking involved.
I heard this BS advice towards the end of college. I never went to a single job fair, I never had a single internship. I had absolutely no networking done, but somehow, I found a job.
My dad has worked at his company for 35 yrs, he asked around and they had no positions available for someone with 0 experience, and that didn’t change cause I “knew somebody”.
95% of the time, random people applying for random jobs. Get hired…randomly. No networking needed.[/quote]
I’ve probably landed 5-6 professional level jobs randomly off the net.
I would say it depends on your field and demand for jobs. But, you are missing the boat if you don’t believe in networking. Cronyism and nepotism are still going strong.
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