How Do They Get Big In Jail?

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Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point.

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Just by the societies that the races have created WHEN THEY WERE NOT INTERFERED with tells me that people are of different races in themselves.

And when I mean no interference, I mean before any of the races bothered with each other at all. When Europeans were in North America and Europe, when Asians were in Asia, and when blacks were in Africa. The products of these different societies speaks for themselves and tells just how different the races are.

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IMO, I think body-weight exercises are very underrated. I have a buddy who was locked up for 5 years and he showed me a picture of him BEFORE he went to prison and one right AFTER. The difference was insane. He looked way bigger afterwards. The craziest part is they are all pretty much calorie restricted (its not like you get 6 meals a day) and no access to weights.

He can do one handed pull ups, and other crazy bodyweight exercises. Who knows…maybe there is something to it. He said they deadlifted random heavy shit and squatted random heavy shit too. I guess your body just adapts to odd object training or something. I have no idea. Whatever works I guess. I guess the same concept applies to guys who work on farms their whole life. They constantly lift heavy things and have the size and strength to show for it.

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I think I do better lifting real heavy with lower volume than doing endless bodyweight exercises; I don’t even like to do sets of 10. I could get much bigger with bodyweight exercises and lifting random shit but I think access to a bar and plates benefit me a lot. I don’t need a squat rack or bench, though.

Oh, and various definitions of race:

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/2008/03/shapes-of-human-variation.php

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Where is everybody getting their reference from that most guys in prison get big while being there? Working out is part of prison culture and some guys take to it and there are some of the biggest freaks you’ve ever seen in prison, but most guys are like your average guy on the street.

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I have had 6 friends go in and come out fatter, and more muscular than before… Of about 9 total.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point. [/quote]

As a Biological Anthropologist, I agree with your first paragraph but am terrified of your second paragraph.

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Most of the white guys I know of that are fucking enormous, good or average genetics, had to really, really, break their backs from lifting huge amounts of weight and eat like a horse to get where they are: Greg Kovacs, Dorian Yates, Chris Duffy, Mike Francois, King Kamali (part white probably), Gary Strydom, and so on. [/quote]

Gary Strydom?? I agree completely with what you are saying, but Gary Strydom is a bad exemple…

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point. [/quote]

Genetic variation between classical races is very small relative to within them, and the usual statistical analysis shows that there is no species separation. There are obviously different populations with greater gene flow within rather than between them, which is what results in the variation between races.

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[quote]Kalle wrote:
My thinking mirrors Sentoguys to a large extent there might be MORE on average genetic freaks that are black but there are white genetic freaks to.

If a darker skin tone didn’t matter than jay cutler wouldn’t show up to the Olympia darker than Ronnie. I am just saying a lot of the time two guys one white and pale the other black with the same level of development who is going to appear more developed?[/quote]

“A few years ago, for example, a prominent scientist argued for black athletic supremacy by pointing out that there had never been a white Michael Jordan. True. But, as the Yale anthropologist Jonathan Marks has noted, until recently there was no black Michael Jordan, either. Michael Jordan, like Tiger Woods or Wayne Gretzky or Cal Ripken, is one of the best players in his sport not because he’s like the other members of his own ethnic group but precisely because he’s not like them-or like anyone else, for that matter. �?lite athletes are élite athletes because, in some sense, they are on the fringes of genetic variability. As it happens, African populations seem to create more of these genetic outliers than white populations do, and this is what underpins the claim that blacks are better athletes than whites. But that’s all the claim amounts to. It doesn’t say anything at all about the rest of us, of all races, muddling around in the genetic middle.” - Malcolm Gladwell, everybody.

He talks about a number of studies, but they’re not cited.

Link: Malcolm Gladwell – Home | Malcolm Gladwell

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Free Will

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Is there anything we can learn from these people?

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[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point. [/quote]

Oh boy…

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I read this thread and felt that I could help you huys out with how they get so big in jail. My experience behind bars tells me that first of all most guys dont get huge. Most get bigger from just eating and lifting, but the ones that get monstous eat more and were already big when they came in. And remember, getting that large doesnt happen quickly at all. So I feel that the question is almost redundant, since it should be, how does anyone get big. Eat and lift, do it over several years.

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[quote]will to power wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point.

Genetic variation between classical races is very small relative to within them, and the usual statistical analysis shows that there is no species separation. There are obviously different populations with greater gene flow within rather than between them, which is what results in the variation between races.[/quote]

Right. Plus, even at the mitochondrial DNA level, you have as much likelihood of finding a close match in Botswana as you do in your home town (family members not included). You could “look” nothing like the person you find a match with and very much like the people who you have very little similarity to. Looks, aren’t an accurate judge of genetic similarity.

And no, “race” means subspecies. There are no subspecies of humans. Like I said, from a cultural standpoint there are different “races”, but from a biological one, there aren’t. Many of the ideas that you are quoting are outdated. Yes, scientists used to believe that there were actually different “races” of humans. But exhaustive studies have pretty much proven otherwise.

Here’s a fun little exercise, why don’t you try defining what makes up the specific “races” of humans. Remember that in order for the definitions to be true all characteristics must be concordant (they must always manifest themselves equally in all members of that “race”). That’s not my definition either, it’s biology’s.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
And no, “race” means subspecies. There are no subspecies of humans.[/quote]

Yes, I meant to refer to cultural concepts of race in my last statement as I wanted to extend what I was saying to the effects on mating patterns in multicultural countries [though honestly I don’t know how marked that is]. Part of the problem is different fields use the same words to mean different things.

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[quote]ovalpline wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point.

As a Biological Anthropologist, I agree with your first paragraph but am terrified of your second paragraph.[/quote]

Most anthropologists will tell you that there are more genetic differences within the ‘races’ than between the ‘racees’.

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[quote]Dickie_B wrote:
I read this thread and felt that I could help you huys out with how they get so big in jail. My experience behind bars tells me that first of all most guys dont get huge. Most get bigger from just eating and lifting, but the ones that get monstous eat more and were already big when they came in. And remember, getting that large doesnt happen quickly at all. So I feel that the question is almost redundant, since it should be, how does anyone get big. Eat and lift, do it over several years.[/quote]

Best post in the thread.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
will to power wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point.

Genetic variation between classical races is very small relative to within them, and the usual statistical analysis shows that there is no species separation. There are obviously different populations with greater gene flow within rather than between them, which is what results in the variation between races.

Right. Plus, even at the mitochondrial DNA level, you have as much likelihood of finding a close match in Botswana as you do in your home town (family members not included). You could “look” nothing like the person you find a match with and very much like the people who you have very little similarity to. Looks, aren’t an accurate judge of genetic similarity.

And no, “race” means subspecies. There are no subspecies of humans. Like I said, from a cultural standpoint there are different “races”, but from a biological one, there aren’t. Many of the ideas that you are quoting are outdated. Yes, scientists used to believe that there were actually different “races” of humans. But exhaustive studies have pretty much proven otherwise.

Here’s a fun little exercise, why don’t you try defining what makes up the specific “races” of humans. Remember that in order for the definitions to be true all characteristics must be concordant (they must always manifest themselves equally in all members of that “race”). That’s not my definition either, it’s biology’s.[/quote]

Second best post.

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[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
will to power wrote:
Bricknyce wrote:
Sentoguy,
Although you are very intelligent, I disagree with you on the “we are all one human race” thing that is so PC these days. We are all of one human species. But, we are of different races: Asian, White, and Black. Within these races are sub-races as well. The whites are composed of Alpines, Mediterraneans (real mediterraneans, not middle easteaners who are really asian or asian-white mixtures), Nordics, Dinarics, and East Baltics. There are other divisions and names given to the mixture of these peoples as well. I am just not a racial anthropoligist so I do not know the whole deal.

There are approximately 300 genetic differences between blacks and whites. That alone tells me that we are of different races. Personally, I believe races differ in stature, intellect, cognitive ability, physical strength, emotionality, behavior, aptitude, inclination and so on and I will most likely never be convinved otherwise nor do I care to argue this point.

Genetic variation between classical races is very small relative to within them, and the usual statistical analysis shows that there is no species separation. There are obviously different populations with greater gene flow within rather than between them, which is what results in the variation between races.

Right. Plus, even at the mitochondrial DNA level, you have as much likelihood of finding a close match in Botswana as you do in your home town (family members not included). You could “look” nothing like the person you find a match with and very much like the people who you have very little similarity to. Looks, aren’t an accurate judge of genetic similarity.

And no, “race” means subspecies. There are no subspecies of humans. Like I said, from a cultural standpoint there are different “races”, but from a biological one, there aren’t. Many of the ideas that you are quoting are outdated. Yes, scientists used to believe that there were actually different “races” of humans. But exhaustive studies have pretty much proven otherwise.

Here’s a fun little exercise, why don’t you try defining what makes up the specific “races” of humans. Remember that in order for the definitions to be true all characteristics must be concordant (they must always manifest themselves equally in all members of that “race”). That’s not my definition either, it’s biology’s.[/quote]

I already have a biological view on race.

Your argument doesn’t convince me otherwise.

I live in the most racially diverse community in the USA, perhaps all of North America. I do not have to really engage in logical or scientific or theoretical debate to understand that we are in fact VERY different. All I have to do is walk outside my house and use my five senses coupled with co-existing, sometimes up close and personal with the people who live in this borough. I do not need studies.