Honest Opinion Out of Ten

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]dre1986 wrote:
i really hope its not to ‘target’ upper, middle and lower pecs cause i’m sure as most of the guys on here are aware its not possible to target different points of the pectoralis major due to there only being one attachment point. bit off topic i know but had to ask seeing as you posted the clip. good work anyway![/quote]

I suggest you learn a thing or two about training and anatomy before you hand out ‘information’ like this.

It is entirely possible to recruit either the pectoralis major clavicular head or the sternal head with different exercises.

So not only IS there an upper and a lower pec, but yes, you can train them seperately.

BBB[/quote]

Thanks BBB for the clarification, but dang dre, without even knowing the proper anatomy of the chest one can tell while liftings the difference in exercises targeting the upper and lower pecs. [/quote]

Not if you dont have any to start with.

update pic on my legs any opinions

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]dre1986 wrote:
i really hope its not to ‘target’ upper, middle and lower pecs cause i’m sure as most of the guys on here are aware its not possible to target different points of the pectoralis major due to there only being one attachment point. bit off topic i know but had to ask seeing as you posted the clip. good work anyway![/quote]

I suggest you learn a thing or two about training and anatomy before you hand out ‘information’ like this.

It is entirely possible to recruit either the pectoralis major clavicular head or the sternal head with different exercises.

So not only IS there an upper and a lower pec, but yes, you can train them seperately.

BBB[/quote]

Thanks BBB for the clarification, but dang dre, without even knowing the proper anatomy of the chest one can tell while liftings the difference in exercises targeting the upper and lower pecs. [/quote]

dont get me wrong guys - i was very sceptical when i first heard this as well. I was originally told when i was doing my personal training qualifications by our tutor, who also happened to be a pro body builder. At that point i was training chest like everyone else. Inclines, delcines etc… i was really sceptical when he told me and went home to read up on it. I came across a video with Dorian Yates where he’s giving a seminar on youtube where he basically reaffirms what my tutor had said. He states that contrary to popular belief it isnt possible to target a specific area of the chest. By setting a bench at an incline it simply moves some of the resistance to the anterior deltoid.

Great improvements.
Keep up the good work.

Its not that you cant.

Doing a flat, compared with an incline, places a different emphasis on the muscle fibres. Dont you think that on an incline the top muscle fibres of the pec major will be stretched further and therefore place an emphasis on them, in addition to the pec minor underneath …

therefore ‘targeting’ the ‘upper chest’.

A better example is the triceps, targeting the long head can be done by placing the arm in a flexed position near the head, therefore fully stretching the long head and placing more emphasis on it. Although the lateral/medial heads still work in conjunction.

No muscle in the body can be completely isolated, but placing muscles in a certain position depending on their insertion, places greater strain on them.

[quote]the_next_arnold wrote:
update pic on my legs any opinions [/quote]

Lookin bigger. Keep doing what you are doing. Curious, hope I didnt miss it, what are your plans for competing?

im planning on doing a bodybuiling show next yr in july in the under 70kg division after a 1 yr lay of this yr im happy with my improvements il post more photos up soon

front double bi

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Looking huge in that new pic man. Keep doing what you’re doing!

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:

[quote]Growing_Boy wrote:
DixiesFinest wrote:
wtf is with that second picture…those eyes…eating my soul…

LMAO!! SOME FUNNY SHIT! [/quote]

Oh man I’m crying right now rofl, fuckin hilarious.[/quote]

hahahaha

holy shit bro thats a huge fuckin difference good work

Keep it up.

[quote]dre1986 wrote:

[quote]Achilles of war wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]dre1986 wrote:
i really hope its not to ‘target’ upper, middle and lower pecs cause i’m sure as most of the guys on here are aware its not possible to target different points of the pectoralis major due to there only being one attachment point. bit off topic i know but had to ask seeing as you posted the clip. good work anyway![/quote]

I suggest you learn a thing or two about training and anatomy before you hand out ‘information’ like this.

It is entirely possible to recruit either the pectoralis major clavicular head or the sternal head with different exercises.

So not only IS there an upper and a lower pec, but yes, you can train them seperately.

BBB[/quote]

Thanks BBB for the clarification, but dang dre, without even knowing the proper anatomy of the chest one can tell while liftings the difference in exercises targeting the upper and lower pecs. [/quote]

dont get me wrong guys - i was very sceptical when i first heard this as well. I was originally told when i was doing my personal training qualifications by our tutor, who also happened to be a pro body builder. At that point i was training chest like everyone else. Inclines, delcines etc… i was really sceptical when he told me and went home to read up on it. I came across a video with Dorian Yates where he’s giving a seminar on youtube where he basically reaffirms what my tutor had said. He states that contrary to popular belief it isnt possible to target a specific area of the chest. By setting a bench at an incline it simply moves some of the resistance to the anterior deltoid. [/quote]

No way that is true - I sometimes shift my chest focus (for example an upper chest focus for 2 months). And I can see noticeable improvement in the size of the targeted area (in relation to the rest of the chest).

thanks alot for the comments guys i am at 80kg now bench press is at 162.5kg squat 180kg and deadlift 220kg still drug free. im going to compete at under 70kg in july next yr

is that a man with high heels or a woman with no top in the back ground (top left)of the second pic?

[quote]the_next_arnold wrote:
thanks alot for the comments guys i am at 80kg now bench press is at 162.5kg squat 180kg and deadlift 220kg still drug free. im going to compete at under 70kg in july next yr[/quote]

Huge improvement man. Nice work.

Hahahaha, the guy that said he looks like the living statue from hot fuzz just made my day

WE’LL BE UP TO THE BALLS IN JUGGLERS!