Homeopathy?

Has anyone tried homeopathic remedies to improve health AND body composition?

ive only tried it for health. helped me a whole lot.

[quote]Robert Monti wrote:
Has anyone tried homeopathic remedies to improve health AND body composition?[/quote]

I simply don’t think that “homopaths” should be allowed to be married.

Oops…wrong thread sorry…

[quote]silencer wrote:
ive only tried it for health. helped me a whole lot.[/quote]

Anything in particular?

I’m a huge believer in homeopathy.

Arnica Montana is a remedy that is never lakcing in my house. It’s good for bruising, swelling, cuts, scrapes, etc. It helps the body heal itself from injury.

www.1800homeopathy.com

That’s been a useful site for me.

well i had certain anxiety and digesiton problems that were solved by homeopathy, and i used miraculous homeopathic hay fever tablets…i also had another problem, kinda hard to explain, solved by homeopathy but in this case i dont know what the doctor gave me. dunno aobut anything for body composition or exercise or the like.

So called “homeopathic medicine” works only because of the placebo effect.

For those who don’t know, “homeopathic medicine” is prepared by diluting a substance with water to the point where the odds of there being even one molecule of the original substance in the result are infinitesimal. In other words, it is water.

[quote]larryb wrote:
In other words, it is water.
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Or some other base, like oil. Not usually tasty oils, either.

I see some people trying to blur the line between homeopathy and herbalism in order to make more money off the homeopathy crowd.

Arnica rubs are good, they really do speed the healing process for bruises. Other than that, don’t know of any that claim to be homeopathic that work well.

-Dan

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[quote]larryb wrote:
So called “homeopathic medicine” works only because of the placebo effect.

For those who don’t know, “homeopathic medicine” is prepared by diluting a substance with water to the point where the odds of there being even one molecule of the original substance in the result are infinitesimal. In other words, it is water.
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Bullshit. Prove it.

Why did it work on my father who thinks like you do? He didn’t even know he was TAKING it. My mom gave it to him in his glasses of water and it was working. He even said he was feeling better from his ailment. As soon as she stopped giving it to him, he was back to feeling crappy.

[quote]larryb wrote:
So called “homeopathic medicine” works only because of the placebo effect.

For those who don’t know, “homeopathic medicine” is prepared by diluting a substance with water to the point where the odds of there being even one molecule of the original substance in the result are infinitesimal. In other words, it is water.
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hey Mr. Uninformed, that’s called micro-doses. not homeopathy. most “homeopathic remedies” are microdoses and are definately not real homeopathy.

Bullshit. Prove it.

Why did it work on my father who thinks like you do? He didn’t even know he was TAKING it. My mom gave it to him in his glasses of water and it was working. He even said he was feeling better from his ailment. As soon as she stopped giving it to him, he was back to feeling crappy.[/quote]

You say your Dad didn’t know it and it still worked? That’s interesting. I’ve been reading alot about placebo effects and power of positive thinking and other things that people call ‘New Age’
(They really aren’t New Age. Most of this stuff was practised centuries ago in Eastern cultures and ancient Greece).
Anyway,scientist who now study prayer feel that it works by feeding from our positive energy…i.e. faith or belief.
Maybe the positive energy from you and your Mom, in the belief in the concoction are what helped your Dad, and not the mixture itself.
Something to think about anyway.

[quote]deanosumo wrote:
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i know it seems appropo, but you’ve definately spoken without knowing enough.

[quote]Gothic77 wrote:
larryb wrote:
So called “homeopathic medicine” works only because of the placebo effect.

For those who don’t know, “homeopathic medicine” is prepared by diluting a substance with water to the point where the odds of there being even one molecule of the original substance in the result are infinitesimal. In other words, it is water.

Bullshit. Prove it.

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From the National Center for Homeopathy

“A plant substance, for example, is mixed in alcohol to obtain a tincture. One drop of the tincture is mixed with 99 drops of alcohol (to achieve a ratio of 1:100) and the mixture is strongly shaken. This shaking process is known as succussion. The final bottle is labeled as “1C.” One drop of this 1C is then mixed with 100 drops of alcohol and the process is repeated to make a 2C. By the time the 3C is reached, the dilution is 1 part in 1 million! Small globules made from sugar are then saturated with the liquid dilution. These globules constitute the homeopathic medicine.”

1 part per million. That’s bullshit.

[quote]heimdall wrote:

You say your Dad didn’t know it and it still worked? That’s interesting. [/quote]

Yes, I found it quite interesting. He thinks it’s quackery. He also believes that chiropractic is quackery.

As for positive thinking, uh-uh. I was 13 at the time - I didn’t know enough about the power of positive thinking. He would TELL US he felt better.

So you’ve been reading alot about the power of positive thinking - good for you. But have you studied it? Thoroughly researched it? Ever been a student of homeopathy? If you HAVE been a student of homeopathy, then you might have a leg to stand on. But when you’re telling me that something I know works doesn’t, I don’t believe you.

Ppl say the same about herbs and chiropractic. They’re full of crap.

Do you know that the homeopathic remedy Hypericum is derived from St. Johnswort? It works the same way. Different dose, different form, same part of the plant.

Tinctures do the same thing.

I don’t know how much reading and research you’ve done, but I can tell you I’ve been doing this for 15 years.

[quote]doogie wrote:
From the National Center for Homeopathy

“A plant substance, for example, is mixed in alcohol to obtain a tincture. One drop of the tincture is mixed with 99 drops of alcohol (to achieve a ratio of 1:100) and the mixture is strongly shaken. This shaking process is known as succussion. The final bottle is labeled as “1C.” One drop of this 1C is then mixed with 100 drops of alcohol and the process is repeated to make a 2C. By the time the 3C is reached, the dilution is 1 part in 1 million! Small globules made from sugar are then saturated with the liquid dilution. These globules constitute the homeopathic medicine.”

1 part per million. That’s bullshit.

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Oh my goodness, look at you! You know how to look for stuff!

If you don’t understand it, research it some more, sweetheart. I know it works. I’ve SEEN it work. Why did my kids NOT have full-blown bouts of the flu after I gave them homeopathic Oscillococcinum? They know nothing about it. Yet they get better a lot faster than when I don’t give them the remedy.

[quote]Gothic77 wrote:

Oh my goodness, look at you! You know how to look for stuff!

If you don’t understand it, research it some more, sweetheart. I know it works. I’ve SEEN it work. Why did my kids NOT have full-blown bouts of the flu after I gave them homeopathic Oscillococcinum? They know nothing about it. Yet they get better a lot faster than when I don’t give them the remedy.[/quote]

I quoted from the National Center for Homeopathy’s own website. What more could you possibly want? My kids have never had full-blown bouts of flu. Is that because of the Kool-Aid they drink everyday?

I looked up your silly Oscillococcinum:
http://www.ritecare.com/homeopathic/guide_oscillococcinum.asp
"Active Ingredient:
Anas barbariae hepatis et cordis extractum 200CK

Homeopathic preparation of liver and heart of the Muscovy Duck (Anas barbariae), diluted 200 times according to the methods described in the Homeopathic Pharmacopeia of the United States.

Inactive Ingredients:
Sucrose: 0.85 g
Lactose: 0.15 g (USP)"

It is diluted 200 TIMES! Diluting only three times leaves 1 part of active ingredient per million (according to the National Center for Homeopathy). You gave your kids sugar water (inactive ingredients). I’ll bet the Kool-Aid was cheaper.

Not that this will convince any of the “believers,” but quackwatch.org has a spin-off site entirely devoted to debunking this crap.

[quote]wufwugy wrote:
larryb wrote:
So called “homeopathic medicine” works only because of the placebo effect.

For those who don’t know, “homeopathic medicine” is prepared by diluting a substance with water to the point where the odds of there being even one molecule of the original substance in the result are infinitesimal. In other words, it is water.

hey Mr. Uninformed, that’s called micro-doses. not homeopathy. most “homeopathic remedies” are microdoses and are definately not real homeopathy.[/quote]

As Dan pointed out, this is an attempt to blur the line between homeopathy and herbalism. “Real” homeopathic preparations contain no active ingredients (are water, oil, etc).

This is interesting. I never knew what homeopathy was. I had it confused with home remedies and herbal remedies. I forage for mushrooms in the fall that supposedly contain a very good imunostimulator, but the only benefits I’ve noticed is that they go good with chicken and I get $20.00 a pound for them at a few whole foods markets.