Good to hear it all worked out well for ya. And more than happy to have helped out. I know how grateful I was with the help I received as well.
I also noticed 1 filter per approx 20mls of product to filter. In case anyone reading is curious of how often to change them.
[quote]fiveoh01 wrote:
Today was the day. I dropped the kids off at school, and opened up my kitchen for some home-cookin’.
Everything was in place as far as equipment, or so I thought. The glass beaker I bought was pretty thin, and I didn’t want to take any chances putting it in the oven. The other day, when putting away dishes, I saw that our one-cup measuring glass had “warranteed ovenproof” stamped on it, so that was the no-brainer. That solved that problem. So what I had was:
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Cottonseed Oil
Ethyl Oleate
Test-Enanthate Powder
21g needles
18g needles
60ml luer lock syringe
3ml luer lock syringe/23g needles (left over from cycle)
20ml sterilized vials
caulking gun
22 micron Whatman filters
What I needed: 10 and 20ml syringes
Using the powder calculator (supermuscle.org), I knew I’d need 10g powder, .8ml BA, 8ml BB, and 11.85ml each of cottonseed oil and EO. That would net me a total of 40ml test-e @ 250mg/ml, with 2% BA, 20% BB. I went with that as a “tried and true” ratio as described in supermuscle.
I sterilized some spoons (for stirring) and the measuring cup by boiling them in a covered pot for 15 minutes. Once they cooled to touch, I dried the cup upside down in the oven at 250 degrees.
My first problem was using a digital scale. I put the cup on it, and tared it to zero. Well, the the scale shut off after I put about seven grams of powder in the cup. I ended up having to measure out little by little, then measured the original powder baggy to get to ten grams. I think I went one or two tenths over, no biggie. The powder started melting as soon as it went into the warm cup.
I added the .8ml of BA and the 8ml of BB, and put it in the 250 degree oven. It melted a lot quicker than I anticipated - within several minutes. I took it out, swirled it around, and let it heat for another ten minutes.
I added the 11.85mls each of cottonseed oil and EO, which is where the 10 and 20 ml syringes would have been handy. I ended up using my 3ml syringes for that, though, which was a little time consuming.
Back into the oven for about 25 minutes. I took the mixture out every so often and stirred it. The advice is to bake until the “swirlies” are gone, which I did.
I let it cool for about 15 minutes, then loaded up the 60ml syringe with the mixture, put on the Whatman filter, and attached an 18g needle to the filter. I put a 21g needle into the vial to allow for venting air, put the 60ml syringe into the caulking gun, and began filtering. I applied enough pressure so the oil dripped semi-rapidly out of the syringe, into the vial.
The first 20ml went fine. I started the second vial and noticed the oil was leaking from in between the filter and syringe. I figured either the filter was clogged, or maybe misthreaded on the luer lock, so I changed it out for another filter and needle. I noticed a small piece of the rubber stopper inside the vial from having to use such a large gauge needle, so next time I may use something smaller.
And that was that! All told, it was a simple process.
A public thanks to Tim and LillGuy.
I’m not due to start a cycle yet, so I won’t know until next month if everything went right.
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Awesome description, and congratulations, 5.0! This is one of the best walkthroughs I have seen so far, really easy to grasp.
Couple questions. Out of all of the lab supplies you purchased, are there many that you will have to purchase every time you brew? Or is most of it pretty much a one-time shot?
Are you saving enough money to make it worth your while, or will you have to brew multiple or fairly large batches to make it cost effective? Or is cost not the issue and it’s more one of safety/anonymity?
Thanks for a terrific thread. I’ll be consulting this in the future.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Awesome description, and congratulations, 5.0! This is one of the best walkthroughs I have seen so far, really easy to grasp.
Couple questions. Out of all of the lab supplies you purchased, are there many that you will have to purchase every time you brew? Or is most of it pretty much a one-time shot?
Are you saving enough money to make it worth your while, or will you have to brew multiple or fairly large batches to make it cost effective? Or is cost not the issue and it’s more one of safety/anonymity?
Thanks for a terrific thread. I’ll be consulting this in the future.[/quote]
LillGuy - Thanks again. As I said in a PM, I couldn’t have done it without you, as with Tim.
Cortes - Thanks for the kind words. As far as the lab supplies, I thought I bought enough to make about 100ml. As it turns out, I’ll have enough for about 200ml, maybe a little less. The shelf life of the oils seems pretty long, a year or more. I’ve read by adding grapefruit seed oil (I think) you can add lifelong longevity to the shelf life of oils. This summer I’ll brew the other 10g of powder, and have plenty to do it with what I have already.
Cost-wise, so far I’m in about $200. That’s shipping and everything. It goes without saying that the savings is pretty substantial. If the 40ml were all I was going to brew, I’d still be ahead. Cost is absolutely an issue, as are the others you mentioned. Shoot - I’ve got kids, and I already feel selfish for the money I’ve spent. Also, I was trying to lessen the frequency of having to obtain anything risky.
The next step in this process is to make equipoise. My next cycle, I plan on 500mg/wk of test-e, and 400mg/wk of EQ for 12 weeks.
EQ is brewed with with boldenone undecylenate, which is a liquid at room temperature.
I’ve read about nothing different in the brewing process for EQ, except that it can be brewed at concentrations up to 400mg/ml, using the 2-20 formula of BB to BB.
If anyone knows different, please chime in.
This is a great thread. I’m wondering why nobody is brewing with tren. Cy’s latest article said it was the best stack to use with test. I have a question though, isn’t tren known for the same side effect as deca? (limp dick)
I don’t know anything about availability of tren powder (or test)of course, I’m just asking a brewing question…
Thanks in advance.
[quote]KNB wrote:
This is a great thread. I’m wondering why nobody is brewing with tren. Cy’s latest article said it was the best stack to use with test. I have a question though, isn’t tren known for the same side effect as deca? (limp dick)
I don’t know anything about availability of tren powder (or test)of course, I’m just asking a brewing question…
Thanks in advance.[/quote]
Tren can give you a limp dick if not run with an adequate amount of test. It is converted from Finaplix pellets, which are subcutaneously injected steroids made for cattle.
When you say “with tren,” do you mean a test-tren blend? Would this be practical (or possible)? I think it would be great to be able to mix up a formula and have it ready in a single convinient shot. I can’t remember having seen or heard of anything like this, though, so perhaps it isn’t practical.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
KNB wrote:
This is a great thread. I’m wondering why nobody is brewing with tren. Cy’s latest article said it was the best stack to use with test. I have a question though, isn’t tren known for the same side effect as deca? (limp dick)
I don’t know anything about availability of tren powder (or test)of course, I’m just asking a brewing question…
Thanks in advance.
Tren can give you a limp dick if not run with an adequate amount of test. It is converted from Finaplix pellets, which are subcutaneously injected steroids made for cattle.
When you say “with tren,” do you mean a test-tren blend? Would this be practical (or possible)? I think it would be great to be able to mix up a formula and have it ready in a single convinient shot. I can’t remember having seen or heard of anything like this, though, so perhaps it isn’t practical.[/quote]
I don’t know about the test-tren combo, but test-eq is supposed to be a viable brew.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I have in the past, made the following special blends:
test prop(100mg/ml) + NPP(75)
test prop(100) + tren ace(50)
Mast enan (100) + primo (100)
test cyp + tren + deca - waste of drugs as too many 19Nors so don’t do this at home folks 
TPP + Mast prop
And possibly others that I’ve forgotten about.
Blending is cool, but it does limit you to the ratios that you have used, i.e. there is a lack of flexibility, so make sure you are happy with the ratios before you start cooking.
Bushy[/quote]
I wish I could find some of these around here. Fun stuff.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
I have in the past, made the following special blends:
test prop(100mg/ml) + NPP(75)
test prop(100) + tren ace(50)
Mast enan (100) + primo (100)
test cyp + tren + deca - waste of drugs as too many 19Nors so don’t do this at home folks
TPP + Mast prop
And possibly others that I’ve forgotten about.
Blending is cool, but it does limit you to the ratios that you have used, i.e. there is a lack of flexibility, so make sure you are happy with the ratios before you start cooking.
Bushy
I wish I could find some of these around here. Fun stuff.[/quote]
I may get adventurous the time after next, and try the test/eq blend. On the surface, that doesn’t appear too complicated.
Any of you home brewing guys have any ideas on how to get the testosterone isolated out of Androgel packets? With only 10% of each packet being absorbed through the skin, 90% is wasted.
I went back to the kitchen today. Once again, I dropped the kids off at school, and went to work. And, by the way, that’s not code for taking a dump. I actually dropped my boys at school.
Anyway, today I brewed up the equipoise with the boldenone. I have never seen boldenone before - it looked like caramel to me. The same color, but not quite as thick.
When looking over other EQ recipes, opinions vary whether the benzyl benzoate is necessary. I’ve read where none is used, 6%, and other percentages. Since the boldenone undecylenate is a liquid at room temperature, some may argue that the BB isn’t needed for solubility, or to prevent crystalization, because they aren’t factors. Me being the novice, and the advice saught being nil, I went ahead and kept my ratio of BA to BB at 2:20. I reasoned that the BB has qualities to me that are desirable in a brew, including thinning out the oil, so I stuck with it.
The only other question I had to answer was what concentration did I want. I had 20g, and didn’t really have a suitable container for storing the leftovers. It came in a sealed baggy, and I don’t have the capabilities of resealing, and didn’t want to transfer it to another container, just for the simple fact I didn’t want to lose any of it. I kicked around saving some so the next time around I could make a test/EQ blend, but I finally decided I don’t want to be bound be a pre-existing ratio. In order to keep doses to a minimum, I went with 50ml at 400mg/ml. I realize that’s a little high, but I think with the ingredients I have, it should be alright.
I think.
The breakdown was as follows:
20g boldenone undecylenate
1ml BA
10ml BB
11ml Cottonseed Oil
11ml EO
I’m sure I could have skipped some steps here, but since I don’t really know what the hell I’m doing, I followed the same protocol as with the test-e process.
It wasn’t necessary for the liquid to melt (duh), but I let the boldenone, BA and BB heat in the oven for about 20 minutes. I added the oil and EO, and heated it through for another 30 (250 degrees).
I again vented the sealed 20ml vials, and filtered the EQ into them. This time I used a 20g needle versus an 18, and it worked very well. No rubber chunks in the final product. And, instead of waiting for the filters to clog, I changed them out after each 20ml was filtered.
I had my doubts to sterility, even though I took precautions with the items I used to cook. Some recommend baking the final product, so I erred on the side of caution, and did so. I kept the 23g needles in the EQ vials, and re-vented the test-e vials I made before. I then baked them in the oven for 45 minutes at 250 degrees.
As some others have mentioned (Prisoner, in particular), no issues at all with the rubber stoppers.
That should complete this home brewing section, until next time!
Here is a photo of the final product. The EQ is on the left, and test to the right.
[quote]5.0 wrote:
Here is a photo of the final product. The EQ is on the left, and test to the right.[/quote]
Damn 5.0, you've come a long way, and done a hell of a job. Very, very impressed with your efficient and articulate breakdown and cooking details. I'm sitting here just amazed and really happy you did it so well.
Fantastic!
ToneBone
I had totally forgotten about this thread. Seriously, 5.0, big pat on the back from this particular super-beginner. I have added this to my Favs. As easy as you make it sound, it still seems like sorcery to some degree. Abracadabra, muscles appear!
on my 4th and last vial of deca that i did, it turned a little cloudy. kinda looks like it has a bunch of air mixed in. the other 3 turned out perfect though. could this b because it was the last one through the filter?
[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
I had totally forgotten about this thread. Seriously, 5.0, big pat on the back from this particular super-beginner. I have added this to my Favs. As easy as you make it sound, it still seems like sorcery to some degree. Abracadabra, muscles appear![/quote]
Although I didn’t post on it, I followed your thread about online sources. You mentioned not wanting to brew your own, but the simplicity with which I described it is no exaggeration. If you’re capable of measuring, you’re capable of making your own, hands down. You should give it go!