[quote]InTheZone wrote:
fiveoh01 wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
Is that something you can purchase at that size anytime?
TBN[/quote]
Yea pretty much. It has become tougher but with some in-depth searching they can still be easily found. However the fact that the 10,000 or so brewing articles online eluded him makes me wonder about his searching abilities.
[quote]E-man wrote:
Yea pretty much. It has become tougher but with some in-depth searching they can still be easily found. However the fact that the 10,000 or so brewing articles online eluded him makes me wonder about his searching abilities.[/quote]
10,000? I’m not referring to home brewing beers here.
And that precludes me how from soliciting advice about the subject?
Brewing articles are easy enough to find, and as I mentioned, process doesn’t seem to be overly complicated…
…the part that eludes me is how to find reliable powder source. Again, I am not asking for a specific source, and I understand that everyone may be laying low for a while, but in general, how does one go about finding a source?
Easy enough to Google ‘testosterone powder’ and come up w/ dozens of (mostly chinese) powder sources, but it just doesn’t seem like it can really be that easy…or is that pretty much all there is to it…place a small order, cross our fingers and see what happens???
What are some things to look for, or to look out for?
…and please, once again, please excuse me for being so forward for a newbie, but I really don’t know of a better way to find things out than to just come right out and ask…a lot of you guys seem like you know what’s up and if I can get pointed in the right direction, I sure would appreciate it.
This is a good thread, and if the vets here are cool with sharing their brew-knowledge to us junior-cooks, then a big thanks in advance from me. And to 5.0 for bringing up the subject.
JR
[quote]testolius wrote:
Brewing articles are easy enough to find, and as I mentioned, process doesn’t seem to be overly complicated…
…the part that eludes me is how to find reliable powder source. Again, I am not asking for a specific source, and I understand that everyone may be laying low for a while, but in general, how does one go about finding a source?
Easy enough to Google ‘testosterone powder’ and come up w/ dozens of (mostly chinese) powder sources, but it just doesn’t seem like it can really be that easy…or is that pretty much all there is to it…place a small order, cross our fingers and see what happens???
What are some things to look for, or to look out for?
…and please, once again, please excuse me for being so forward for a newbie, but I really don’t know of a better way to find things out than to just come right out and ask…a lot of you guys seem like you know what’s up and if I can get pointed in the right direction, I sure would appreciate it.[/quote]
There’s no system bro, persistence and luck are the name of the game.
Although this website is like the Sahara desert, as it appears defunct, check out “In The Kitchen.”
I wonder where thunder and chaos went?
Hey! I dont even know what BB and BA is haaaa
BA - Benzyl Alcohol. Aids in dissolving the hormone powder, and in sterility.
BB - Benzyl Benzoate. Helps keep the hormone in solution after injection, so it doesn’t crystalize in the muscle.
Two of the four main ingredients in injectable steroids.
Here’s a nice simple, informative thread. From BB.com, of all places. Their steroid sub-forum is not nearly as bad as much of the rest of the site.
[quote]Cortes wrote:
Here’s a nice simple, informative thread. From BB.com, of all places. Their steroid sub-forum is not nearly as bad as much of the rest of the site.
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Nice addition. The process seemed a tad simplified there, but good none-the-less.
Lab supplies came today. I think I’m going to end up brewing a 2-20 batch, as outlined elsewhere.
40ml at 250mg/ml. Although the BB isn’t necessary from what I’ve read, since this is a little higher concentration of test, I’m hoping it’ll do what it is supposed to do, and keep it pain free.
I’ll give it a go next week.
Can any of the home brewers advise how much of the BA evaporates during the powder melting portion? If I start with a 2-20 of BA to BB, how much of the BA will I be left with after heating for 20 minutes or so? Is it significant enough to have to add more BA?
No need to worry dude
No need to add anything further.
Today was the day. I dropped the kids off at school, and opened up my kitchen for some home-cookin’.
Everything was in place as far as equipment, or so I thought. The glass beaker I bought was pretty thin, and I didn’t want to take any chances putting it in the oven. The other day, when putting away dishes, I saw that our one-cup measuring glass had “warranteed ovenproof” stamped on it, so that was the no-brainer. That solved that problem. So what I had was:
Benzyl Alcohol
Benzyl Benzoate
Cottonseed Oil
Ethyl Oleate
Test-Enanthate Powder
21g needles
18g needles
60ml luer lock syringe
3ml luer lock syringe/23g needles (left over from cycle)
20ml sterilized vials
caulking gun
22 micron Whatman filters
What I needed: 10 and 20ml syringes
Using the powder calculator (supermuscle.org), I knew I’d need 10g powder, .8ml BA, 8ml BB, and 11.85ml each of cottonseed oil and EO. That would net me a total of 40ml test-e @ 250mg/ml, with 2% BA, 20% BB. I went with that as a “tried and true” ratio as described in supermuscle.
I sterilized some spoons (for stirring) and the measuring cup by boiling them in a covered pot for 15 minutes. Once they cooled to touch, I dried the cup upside down in the oven at 250 degrees.
My first problem was using a digital scale. I put the cup on it, and tared it to zero. Well, the the scale shut off after I put about seven grams of powder in the cup. I ended up having to measure out little by little, then measured the original powder baggy to get to ten grams. I think I went one or two tenths over, no biggie. The powder started melting as soon as it went into the warm cup.
I added the .8ml of BA and the 8ml of BB, and put it in the 250 degree oven. It melted a lot quicker than I anticipated - within several minutes. I took it out, swirled it around, and let it heat for another ten minutes.
I added the 11.85mls each of cottonseed oil and EO, which is where the 10 and 20 ml syringes would have been handy. I ended up using my 3ml syringes for that, though, which was a little time consuming.
Back into the oven for about 25 minutes. I took the mixture out every so often and stirred it. The advice is to bake until the “swirlies” are gone, which I did.
I let it cool for about 15 minutes, then loaded up the 60ml syringe with the mixture, put on the Whatman filter, and attached an 18g needle to the filter. I put a 21g needle into the vial to allow for venting air, put the 60ml syringe into the caulking gun, and began filtering. I applied enough pressure so the oil dripped semi-rapidly out of the syringe, into the vial.
The first 20ml went fine. I started the second vial and noticed the oil was leaking from in between the filter and syringe. I figured either the filter was clogged, or maybe misthreaded on the luer lock, so I changed it out for another filter and needle. I noticed a small piece of the rubber stopper inside the vial from having to use such a large gauge needle, so next time I may use something smaller.
And that was that! All told, it was a simple process.
A public thanks to Tim and LillGuy.
I’m not due to start a cycle yet, so I won’t know until next month if everything went right.
Congrats! as this to me is a huge feat. youll have to let us know how it works out for you compared to previous uses
[quote]Game_over wrote:
Congrats! as this to me is a huge feat. youll have to let us know how it works out for you compared to previous uses[/quote]
Yeah - definately. If February comes and goes, and you don’t hear from me, that means it was some bad shit. Otherwise, I’ll be one happy poster!
haha nice, im sure it’ll be smooth as butta i mean how couldnt it? llok who your teachers were! with guys with experience like that how could you go wrong
[quote]Game_over wrote:
haha nice, im sure it’ll be smooth as butta i mean how couldnt it? llok who your teachers were! with guys with experience like that how could you go wrong[/quote]
Second this. Great going 5.0, I really think you did a great job, and also provided a beautiful description of details. Job well done man.
ToneBone
[quote]InTheZone wrote:
Second this. Great going 5.0, I really think you did a great job, and also provided a beautiful description of details. Job well done man.
ToneBone[/quote]
Thanks TB, I appreciate that. I was fearful I had somehow gotten on your bad side…
5.0