[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]
I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]
My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]
I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]
My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.[/quote]
So you do the same thing every week u go in the gym?
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]
I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]
My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.[/quote]
So you do the same thing every week u go in the gym?[/quote]
YES. Changes are made if needed, but no, I am not changing exercises around just to do it for no reason. I am tracking progress. You can’t track your progress on the incline press if you did it FIRST last week AND LAST this week.
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]
I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]
My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.[/quote]
So you do the same thing every week u go in the gym?[/quote]
YES. Changes are made if needed, but no, I am not changing exercises around just to do it for no reason. I am tracking progress. You can’t track your progress on the incline press if you did it FIRST last week AND LAST this week.[/quote]
Na i never do barbell exercises last. I only start with barbell exercises, then ill move to dumbells like flat presses or incline, then dips or flies. So ill do the main one first so im not tired from other exercises. So if i did incline this week, then flat next week, then i would do incline again the next week and try to beat my last incline, i would always do it first exercise. Is this right?
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]
I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]
My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.[/quote]
So you do the same thing every week u go in the gym?[/quote]
YES. Changes are made if needed, but no, I am not changing exercises around just to do it for no reason. I am tracking progress. You can’t track your progress on the incline press if you did it FIRST last week AND LAST this week.[/quote]
Na i never do barbell exercises last. I only start with barbell exercises, then ill move to dumbells like flat presses or incline, then dips or flies. So ill do the main one first so im not tired from other exercises. So if i did incline this week, then flat next week, then i would do incline again the next week and try to beat my last incline, i would always do it first exercise. Is this right?[/quote]
That is what I do alone. It helps me keep track of progress.
In fact, let me put it like this…this is about LOGIC. Changing shit around for no reason is ILLOGICAL. Your body doesn’t fucking know the name of the exercise you are doing. It responds to the changes in WEIGHT more than anything.
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]
I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]
My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.[/quote]
So you do the same thing every week u go in the gym?[/quote]
YES. Changes are made if needed, but no, I am not changing exercises around just to do it for no reason. I am tracking progress. You can’t track your progress on the incline press if you did it FIRST last week AND LAST this week.[/quote]
Na i never do barbell exercises last. I only start with barbell exercises, then ill move to dumbells like flat presses or incline, then dips or flies. So ill do the main one first so im not tired from other exercises. So if i did incline this week, then flat next week, then i would do incline again the next week and try to beat my last incline, i would always do it first exercise. Is this right?[/quote]
That is what I do alone. It helps me keep track of progress.
In fact, let me put it like this…this is about LOGIC. Changing shit around for no reason is ILLOGICAL. Your body doesn’t fucking know the name of the exercise you are doing. It responds to the changes in WEIGHT more than anything.
[/quote]
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]
I am in awe at your response. Your muscles sense load. Your mind will try to learn a movement (as it does with all motor capabilities) so that it utilizes the least amount of energy to perform over time. Certain movements work better by recruiting more muscle fibers or simply falling in line with a person’s body mechanics better.
But of course, you needed to school me on how a muscle functions.
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]
I am in awe at your response. Your muscles sense load. Your mind will try to learn a movement (as it does with all motor capabilities) so that it utilizes the least amount of energy to perform over time. Certain movements work better by recruiting more muscle fibers or simply falling in line with a person’s body mechanics better.
But of course, you needed to school me on how a muscle functions.
Thanks for the lesson, kid. You’re on your own.[/quote]
Your welcome, you learn something new everyday. That was yours for today
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]
I am in awe at your response. Your muscles sense load. Your mind will try to learn a movement (as it does with all motor capabilities) so that it utilizes the least amount of energy to perform over time. Certain movements work better by recruiting more muscle fibers or simply falling in line with a person’s body mechanics better.
But of course, you needed to school me on how a muscle functions.
Thanks for the lesson, kid. You’re on your own.[/quote]
Your welcome, you learn something new everyday. That was yours for today[/quote]
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]
I am in awe at your response. Your muscles sense load. Your mind will try to learn a movement (as it does with all motor capabilities) so that it utilizes the least amount of energy to perform over time. Certain movements work better by recruiting more muscle fibers or simply falling in line with a person’s body mechanics better.
But of course, you needed to school me on how a muscle functions.
Thanks for the lesson, kid. You’re on your own.[/quote]
Your welcome, you learn something new everyday. That was yours for today[/quote]
lol what a fuckin punk[/quote]
u like that one? u can use it if u want
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]
This sort of thing ^ REALLY held me back when getting into lifting (especially the whole “you gotta switch it up” thing). OP, why would DB’s work better than say a machine, if over time you were still lifting 70lbs DB’s 2 years later compared to adding pounds every week to the machine?
Progress makes you bigger (let that sink in), not the magical way in which you stabilise the weight. If that logic were true we’d all get bigger pecs simply by benching on a bosu ball…oh wait, that’s what some personal trainers are doing these days!
[quote]roger1111 wrote:
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]
This sort of thing ^ REALLY held me back when getting into lifting (especially the whole “you gotta switch it up” thing). OP, why would DB’s work better than say a machine, if over time you were still lifting 70lbs DB’s 2 years later compared to adding pounds every week to the machine?
Progress makes you bigger (let that sink in), not the magical way in which you stabilise the weight. If that logic were true we’d all get bigger pecs simply by benching on a bosu ball…oh wait, that’s what some personal trainers are doing these days![/quote]
Lol why wouldnt you get stronger in dumbells? I have…maybe your doing something wrong. And if i recall correctly, most of the big strength programs consist of dumbbell presses on a stbility ball. Not that i do them but thats what they call for. And if your using more stability muscles meaning your using more to push the weight, hence more growth. I know machines are good, especially hammer strength ones, but your body knows the difference, thats what i said
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap
So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]
Im not stupid, i know you could do the same exercises every week while going up in weight and eating right that u can get bigger and stronger. Thats not what i said, i said your body knows the difference, due to the stability muscles
Anyway didnt wanna seem to think i know it all, just stating a fact. So if i do flat bench, incline bench, dips or flies every week slowly progressing in weight ill get bigger with a good diet?
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap
So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]
…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.
But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap
So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]
…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.
But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap
So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]
…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.
But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest[/quote]
I’m curious to see some pictures of the results you’ve made.
[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap
So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]
…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.
But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest[/quote]
maybe… but when you do stall (and you will) i doubt any one who see’s this thread will take a second look to help you