HIT Training, Opinions?

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[quote]MAF14 wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap

So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]

…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.

But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest[/quote]

maybe… but when you do stall (and you will) i doubt any one who see’s this thread will take a second look to help you[/quote]
i know how to break plateaus in strength and size. thanks for ur concern

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[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap

So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]

…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.

But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest[/quote]

I’m curious to see some pictures of the results you’ve made.[/quote]
gained 25kgs with maybe 4-5%bf. i dont take pictures of myself, thats extremely gay, i also wouldnt do it where a bunch of guys on a website can look at it

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I’m locking this thread if you guys keep talking to this idiot.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I’m locking this thread if you guys keep talking to this idiot.[/quote]

alright, alright but she shit he’s saying is starting to get pretty amusing

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[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap

So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]

…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.

But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest[/quote]

I’m curious to see some pictures of the results you’ve made.[/quote]
gained 25kgs with maybe 4-5%bf. i dont take pictures of myself, thats extremely gay, i also wouldnt do it where a bunch of guys on a website can look at it[/quote]

Nice progress. You don’t have any casual pictures that others have taken of you over the time you’ve progressed? I didn’t say anything about pictures of you naked…

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[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]its_just_me wrote:
That’s such a typical response from the average person these days, wanting to “learn”, but being too full of themselves to let anything in. They’d rather believe anything other than simple crap

So glad I saw sense (after some time!)[/quote]

…yet people wonder why we respond the way we do. If I was a relative newb and had the access to talk to people with way more experience and results, there is no way in hell I would have acted like this.

But then, successful people tend to not bite the hand that tries to help them.[/quote]
i get results, i stated a fact, which was correct, you did the rest[/quote]

I’m curious to see some pictures of the results you’ve made.[/quote]
gained 25kgs with maybe 4-5%bf. i dont take pictures of myself, thats extremely gay, i also wouldnt do it where a bunch of guys on a website can look at it[/quote]

Nice progress. You don’t have any casual pictures that others have taken of you over the time you’ve progressed? I didn’t say anything about pictures of you naked…
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He’s a troll.

First sign of troll on a bodybuilding forum is the claim that…in this day and age where you get photographed by traffic cameras 25 times on the way to work and everyone has a cell phone cam on you at all times to post funnies to youtube…they can’t post a picture because it is either “gay”, they can’t find a camera, or they don’t understand how to crop their fucking face out the pic if need be.

This guy is garbage. Fuckers like this are why so many who used to have great advice have left.

The jackasses in the GAL forum doing call outs would be the other reason.

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Instant ban, IMO.

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[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]roger1111 wrote:
If you dont agree, what program would you consider best? Been training for nearly 2 years[/quote]

I went into a lot of that in that “professor x thread” stickied to the top of this forum.[/quote]
Yea had a look through it and read some good stuff. Just a quick question. I usually start my workout with a big compound exercise, like incline,flat bench or WG pull ups and CG pull ups, squats and seated shoulder presses. Do you change your first exercise every week? So one week incline bench then the next decline and so on. Or always the same exercise and just try to beat the last one?[/quote]

My exercises usually stay in the same order. You can not track progress well if you are changing shit around constantly for no reason.[/quote]
So you do the same thing every week u go in the gym?[/quote]

YES. Changes are made if needed, but no, I am not changing exercises around just to do it for no reason. I am tracking progress. You can’t track your progress on the incline press if you did it FIRST last week AND LAST this week.[/quote]
Na i never do barbell exercises last. I only start with barbell exercises, then ill move to dumbells like flat presses or incline, then dips or flies. So ill do the main one first so im not tired from other exercises. So if i did incline this week, then flat next week, then i would do incline again the next week and try to beat my last incline, i would always do it first exercise. Is this right?[/quote]

That is what I do alone. It helps me keep track of progress.

In fact, let me put it like this…this is about LOGIC. Changing shit around for no reason is ILLOGICAL. Your body doesn’t fucking know the name of the exercise you are doing. It responds to the changes in WEIGHT more than anything.
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But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]

This post… Made me laugh so hard, lol. I was also amused at how he uses the terms “stabilize” and “stabilizer muscles” more than they use “nigga” in this song…

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[quote]roger1111 wrote:
But it knows the movement. Your body knows the difference between barbell incline and DBs and also for machines. Your body needs more muscles to stabilize dbs presses more then barbell presses. Thats why for bodybuilding, dumbell presses are better for hypertropy. So yes, your body does fucking know the exercise you are doing [/quote]

Muscles aren’t sentient, so they don’t “know” anything. Only the mind knows movements. The goal of bodybuilding is to stimulate the muscles to grow bigger. Muscles respond to the LOAD placed on them, not the movement pattern used.

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This guy needs a fukin reality check. You got these very experienced guys offering to give advise and all you can do is tell them they are wrong and that you know better.

quit the ego and u just might learn something

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[quote]Chris Colucci wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You know, I wrote pretty clearly that ASIDE FROM HIS LAST SET, HE TRAINED MORE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE. That is what was meant by [quote]short of how he did his last set, I am not sure how people can call what he actually did “HIT”[/quote][/quote]
Training “more intensely, less volume, and more rest” is, around :33 in the vid below, how Yates describes the style of HIT he does. Putting it that way, which is basically what Thib described in the article I posted previously, it should be easy enough for most people to understand.

The trouble/confusion comes as a result of the HIT jedis being as cult-ish as Crossfitters in terms of dictating what is or isn’t “true HIT.” Arguing over whether it’s one set per exercise or one set per bodypart? Sets taken to failure or sets must be taken beyond failure. Crap like that that’s more effective at raising Internet forum post counts than it is building muscle and strength.

[quote]Hitkiller wrote:
He said himself that he still went all out with his workouts right up to contest when in hindsight he said maybe he should have cut down on the intensity 3 or 4 weeks out. I don’t blame the techniques he used for the injuries he incurred, getting close to a contest evergy levels are low because of diet, cardio etc and anyone can be more at risk to being injured at this time.[/quote]
Here’s a video where, around 1:05, he chalks his injuries up to not resting enough after sustaining minor injuries (“especially in a contest phase” as he says), letting them develop into more serious injuries.

However, Yates’ “style” of HIT training totally relied on the intensity-boosting techniques that inherently increase the risk of injury, so there wasn’t really a way around it. HIT training as Yates did it, without things like forced reps or negatives, wouldn’t have been as productive in the first place, even though it was significantly more dangerous.[/quote]

Awesome post deserving repost. Answered all relevant points and in Yate’s own words.

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Why do people ask questions/solicit advice, then become agumentative when given answers/advice contrary to what they want to hear???

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[quote]Brett620 wrote:
Why do people ask questions/solicit advice, then become agumentative when given answers/advice contrary to what they want to hear???[/quote]

In hopes to confirm what they personally believe or are currently doing. Children do this all the time.