Higher Test or Deca and Lower Test?

[jaysonthereal]

@Ns1210

Im 30 years old. I may be talking nonsense, but I believe that to build muscle I need more drugs. for cutting, oxan and low dose test are enough with training and diet.

your cart is before your horse, period. less is usually better with most guys.

i have never taken anything more than test. i lost a shit ton of weight and look fucking solid. even i learned the hard way by taking too much test.

check out my post here and see my results on TEST ONLY. i definitely reached sub 10% with tracking, adjusting and DIET! SHIT, DID I FORGET TO SAY DIET NOT DRUGS!

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[blshaw]

@RT_Nomad

but I think that stacking test and deca is a much better cycle than just doubling the test.

If he can avoid nandrolone side effects… absolutely

[s.gentz]

@blshaw

but I can’t take it. Gives me ED.

Not to highjack his thread but have you ever tried proviron with the nand? I has ED issues as well but my trainer suggested the proviron and now I can take moderate doses of deca with 0 issues.

[swoops39]

@Ns1210

my goal is between bulking and cutting, being able to maintain BF and be at 220/225lbs

You’re 210 now, so you want to bulk. What’s this between bulking and cutting stuff? I swear to God if you say “maingaining”…

Anyway, Deca def helps guys with building muscle, although I think your dose is too small. I’d do 200/200 myself, and increase the test dose first if I stalled out. Also trying to maintain 7% BF while doing this is dumb. Shoot for maybe 10-12% and just cut it off when the time comes. You’ll get better overall results

[blshaw]

Yes as well as some injectable DHTs. It’s a no fly zone for me.

[Ns1210]

forgiveness. I have a lot of difficulties with the English language. Im from Brazil.
I want to express myself better: I intend to gain 15/20lbs, fat I know I will have too, but as little as possible. I aim to gain the 15/20lbs dry weight, if more fat comes in (12/15%), I understand.

one thing I forgot to mention. I usually take a test before applying (1h before) and my DHT was 900.
I’ve had a hair transplant and I have a lot of problems with it.
there are hair exams, directly on the hair (which I did recently) and testo did not harm me.

[Ns1210]

I’m prone to testosterone as that’s what I get in this pharma grade amount. nandro would be
more complicated, because my doctor doesn’t like it above 100mg.

[s.gentz]

That stinks. Deca is a great tool for those who cab tolerate it.