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[quote]World1187 wrote:
Well what I’m going to do here is hopefully use acetate EOD at 150mg for around 2 weeks. Then switch to tren enanthate. Sounds all fucked up, but like I said earlier, this cycle is more of an experiment than anything for me…

What do you know about the “tren cough?” I have several buddies who’ve taken both ace and enan, yet none of them have exhibited this allegedly very common side effect…[/quote]

I don’t have firsthand experience with it, but it’s supposed to feel like you are dying. Sounds fun. That’s one of those side effects I forgot about, but I don’t guess your injection schedule is going to have anything to do with it, other than increasing chances of it if you move to ED. You might think about not injecting tren when there are people who don’t know what you are doing in another room.

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I don’t have firsthand experience with it, but it’s supposed to feel like you are dying. Sounds fun. That’s one of those side effects I forgot about, but I don’t guess your injection schedule is going to have anything to do with it, other than increasing chances of it if you move to ED. You might think about not injecting tren when there are people who don’t know what you are doing in another room. [/quote]

Feel like dying, huh? Wow, that sounds very unpleasant and I hadn’t read about that one yet.

What exactly did you mean to say with that gigantic run-on sentence about people in another room again? lol Not trying to be rude, but I don’t understand what you were trying to get across…

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I haven’t touched on much besides what I plan on doing compound-wise in my cycle and the weight I’ve gained thus far.

I’d like to shed some light on the mental side of things.

Basically, I feel like a god. I don’t feel human, I just feel like Hercules. Seriously. I can honestly say I have never felt better in my life.

So I say I feel really good. There’s a downside though-- it’s called the morning. I wake up, but am not full of piss and vinegar ready to show the world who’s boss like I was pre-cycle. However, I have been waking up with morning wood every single day on cycle thus far. And sometimes, it’s not just morning wood, but rather morning and afternoon wood, lol.

That brings up another point-- I am the horniest individual in the Western Hemisphere, and potentially the world. Bushy, you made the offer to have us over sometime soon, well if I come over you better hide your fiance or I’ll have her walking bowlegged for a week… just kidding with ya. My girl loves it. And I do too. I’m not kidding when I say we had sex for 2 hours, took a break so I could eat, went at it for another 2, another food break, and then more hour before we went to sleep a few days ago. Sex drive is out of this world gentlemen.

Now, a few negatives. My back started breaking out, but I threw some Clean and Clear Deep Cleansing Cream on it and I was cleared up for the most part after a few days. Interestingly enough though I have not had any bloat whatsoever, even after a week on 100mg of anadrol ED. The only other negative point I can think of right now is that I seem to be very grouchy in the morning.

I have not had any side effects at all yet that warrant using the Adex so I still have that ready to go if I feel I need it, but have not used it. However, I will more than likely will be running it during my taper at .25mg EOD.

If I missed anything, ask away.

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Heh. Yeah, I just read on another board about a guy who was injecting tren in the bathroom when his girlfriend’s parents were at their place. He got the tren cough bad and they were about ready to call an ambulance. Then he had to try and explain it later. I was making the point that, if people aren’t aware of your use, that is something you would have to figure out how to make an excuse for.

[quote]World1187 wrote:

What exactly did you mean to say with that gigantic run-on sentence about people in another room again? lol Not trying to be rude, but I don’t understand what you were trying to get across…

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
I haven’t touched on much besides what I plan on doing compound-wise in my cycle and the weight I’ve gained thus far.

I’d like to shed some light on the mental side of things.

Basically, I feel like a god. I don’t feel human, I just feel like Hercules. Seriously. I can honestly say I have never felt better in my life.

So I say I feel really good. There’s a downside though-- it’s called the morning. I wake up, but am not full of piss and vinegar ready to show the world who’s boss like I was pre-cycle. However, I have been waking up with morning wood every single day on cycle thus far. And sometimes, it’s not just morning wood, but rather morning and afternoon wood, lol.

That brings up another point-- I am the horniest individual in the Western Hemisphere, and potentially the world. Bushy, you made the offer to have us over sometime soon, well if I come over you better hide your fiance or I’ll have her walking bowlegged for a week… just kidding with ya. My girl loves it. And I do too. I’m not kidding when I say we had sex for 2 hours, took a break so I could eat, went at it for another 2, another food break, and then more hour before we went to sleep a few days ago. Sex drive is out of this world gentlemen.

Now, a few negatives. My back started breaking out, but I threw some Clean and Clear Deep Cleansing Cream on it and I was cleared up for the most part after a few days. Interestingly enough though I have not had any bloat whatsoever, even after a week on 100mg of anadrol ED. The only other negative point I can think of right now is that I seem to be very grouchy in the morning.

I have not had any side effects at all yet that warrant using the Adex so I still have that ready to go if I feel I need it, but have not used it. However, I will more than likely will be running it during my taper at .25mg EOD.

If I missed anything, ask away.[/quote]

Great thread, World. A definate change from the norm in terms of cycles.

You made me think back to the Seinfeld episode where George Costanza wants to incorporate food with sex - the best of both worlds. No need for a break - just pull a venison steak from the nightstand, and nourish as you go! Maybe your significant other would be a little more understanding.

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
Well what I’m going to do here is hopefully use acetate EOD at 150mg for around 2 weeks. Then switch to tren enanthate. Sounds all fucked up, but like I said earlier, this cycle is more of an experiment than anything for me…

What do you know about the “tren cough?” I have several buddies who’ve taken both ace and enan, yet none of them have exhibited this allegedly very common side effect…[/quote]

I’m a month in a cycle of test-enanthate 250mg E3D and tren-acetate 50mg ED, and I haven’t really had any problems so far. No cough but the first 5 days or so I couldn’t get to sleep, but I think my body just needed time to adjust to the tren, because now I sleep great.

JR

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I personally love tren but it supresses the shit outta me. Ive tried both routes before and definatley experience a better overall feeling of ED injections over EOD.

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ED at what dose, though? 100? 150?

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This tread is great…I learn so much from you guys and no doubt others do to. Thanks for posting World.

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I think I’ve done at least 4 cycles involving Tren, both Acetate and Enanthate. Whether EOD or ED never made much of a difference for me, to be quite honest. What I will say, however, is that anything less than 350mg/week for me was just a waste of time.

No “tren cough” (still don’t know what in the hell that rumor is about), no insomnia, no irritability. The only drawbacks were similar to what LillGuy mentioned: Heavy suppression post cycle. I was sure to carry out a very aggressive PCT by my 2nd round at Tren.

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I figure I will just run 100mg ED for 2 weeks then…

Hopefully no “tren cough” though. My understanding is the cough is only present when Finaplex pellets are melted down and a larger amount of solvent has to be used. Not a brewer, couldn’t tell for ya for sure, but that’s what I’ve heard…

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Oh yes friends, I forgot some of the greatest news yet as of yesterday.

I set a personal record on squats!!!

I’m not one for maxing out and all that stuff since I’m going for mass more than anything. That being sad, I like lifting some heavy shit once in a while.

A year and a half ago I had surgery to repair my torn ACL and calf muscle, prior to that I could squat around 450 for a solid 3-5 reps. Anyway, last wednesday I did 440 for 3 reps, 465 for 3 reps on saturday, and 3 reps at 500 yesterday!!! I was ecstatic.

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206.9 today everybody.

So an increase of .9 lbs in a day, which I believe is my smallest gain of weight in a day, but by no means am I disappointed.

Hit some chest and tris tonight. I don’t really have a set routine in case you haven’t figured that out. I like to train “instinctively.”

The chest was feeling pretty damned good, but then when hitting tris I somehow tweaked my shoulder a little bit while doing skull crushers. Not sure what that was all about, but it sure as hell didn’t feel good…

Either way, I sucked it up, dropped my weight and got my reps in for sure.

I’m like a bull elk in rut right now to be perfectly honest. I didn’t think there would be that big of a difference between usual 500mg test/wk and this 800mg/wk, but there as sure hell is. I swear to you, I could put Pam Anderson, Paris Hilton, and any other nymphomaniac out there in a fucking coma after being done with them in the sack, lol.

I have figured a few other things out as well. I’m going to start 100mg ED of tren ace for 10 days in a row along with 100mg of anadrol at the same time. That’s coming up in a few days. My thoughts regarding this is that my test is definitely in full swing and I can only imagine the effect all 3 of them will have. This is my first foray into the world of tren, assuming I like it, I will follow with 3 weeks of tren enanthate… probably dosed at 500mg/wk or so…

Thoughts anyone?

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Congratulations on the PR squat World, god-damn, 500 x 3 is outstanding!

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208.3 today guys…

I was feeling kind of bloated yesterday so I cut a bunch of carbs today and have pretty much just had deer meat, boar jerky, and some duck.

I’ve also had some oatmeal and several salads with spicy sauced duck in them… needed some fiber, lol.

World

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So tonight really demostrates the fact that I train “instinctively.”

Had a little shoulder tweak last night, but I did delts and traps tonight though and it actually went quite well.

I spent about an hour and a half at the gym tonight working what I want improved, so it consisted of delts, traps, a little tri isolation work, abs, and an ass load of calves.

It seems weird the way I jump all over the place like that but sometimes I just gotta get some shit done my way… working well so far. I’ve put on over a pound a day so far on my cycle and haven’t had any drol in I think 5 days…

I’d really appreciate some info on the tren fellas… there are 2 routes I am considering…

75mg ED

Or

150mg EOD

Input, advice?

I know Contrl suggested ED, but I’d like more than one guy’s input, no offnse intended there Contrl…

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
So tonight really demostrates the fact that I train “instinctively.”

Had a little shoulder tweak last night, but I did delts and traps tonight though and it actually went quite well.

I spent about an hour and a half at the gym tonight working what I want improved, so it consisted of delts, traps, a little tri isolation work, abs, and an ass load of calves.

It seems weird the way I jump all over the place like that but sometimes I just gotta get some shit done my way… working well so far. I’ve put on over a pound a day so far on my cycle and haven’t had any drol in I think 5 days…

I’d really appreciate some info on the tren fellas… there are 2 routes I am considering…

75mg ED

Or

150mg EOD

Input, advice?

I know Contrl suggested ED, but I’d like more than one guy’s input, no offnse intended there Contrl…

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You’ve already heard from me and know I don’t know anything first hand, but if I were you I would do the first week 75mg ED, then switch to 150mg EOD just so you can get a feel for how it affects you both ways. If you don’t notice a change in the second week, you can just continue to run it that way and you don’t have to fuck with it as much. If you don’t like how you feel, you can start ED again immediately. Then again, if you are only running two weeks of ace…

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I’ll be running it at 75mg ED for 2 weeks to get a feel for it and then switching to 150mg EOD for another 2 weeks…

The two weeks with ED inj. will also be stacked with 100 mg anadrol and 50mg winstrol…

The idea here is one that Bushy has mentioned before: the idea of adding the Class IIs once the Class I is in full swing as opposed to using them as a kick start only. Since this is a short cycle, you’ll notice I utilized a one week oral kickstart and am also going to throw them back in come week 3.

So basically, it’s the same as week 1, but with the tren as well…

Experimental cycles… fun fun fun.

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[quote]World1187 wrote:
I’ll be running it at 75mg ED for 2 weeks to get a feel for it and then switching to 150mg EOD for another 2 weeks…

The two weeks with ED inj. will also be stacked with 100 mg anadrol and 50mg winstrol…

The idea here is one that Bushy has mentioned before: the idea of adding the Class IIs once the Class I is in full swing as opposed to using them as a kick start only. Since this is a short cycle, you’ll notice I utilized a one week oral kickstart and am also going to throw them back in come week 3.

So basically, it’s the same as week 1, but with the tren as well…

Experimental cycles… fun fun fun.[/quote]

    Yep, second that one about the class II timing.

In fact, you know I’m supposed to be getting my drol/win any day now, and am contemplating how/when to run them.
I could run them asap before running out of my injec, but that would only go for about a week or a little more, and just seems half assed. No, I think I’ll go with my first plan which was to run them as a seperate shorty after time off from this deal. Sorry to hijack, just on the same subject and throwin this by you.

             Your cycle looks like a beauty by the way, getting better and better! You should realize some tremendous gains at the point of those added compounds I bet. Hold on to your seat on that wild ride buddy.

                 cheers!
                 ToneBone
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209.6 just a few hours ago on an empty stomach

I woke up feeling somewhat bloated, horney, and ornery… lol. The lady really really appreciated that…

Anyhow, ate breakfast, went to a class, came back and ate the equivalent of two meals for me, and then passed out for about 4.5 hours…

Woke up, weighed myself and then ate. Did a bit of studying for a couple hours, had a nice deer jerky, wild rice, PBJ, and milk snack…

And now I plan on heading to the gym…

I think I’ll be doing lots of back work, definintely 3-8 (instictive, remember, lol) sets of calves, abs for sure, and perhaps a few sets of bicep work depending on how burnt out they are from the back work…

Tomorrow is going to be a big day for me gentlemen. A very big, big day… the reintroduction of 50mg winstrol and 100mg anadrol. Along with that I will be adding 75mg tren ace ED for two weeks altogether…

As I have mentioned before, if I like my reaction to the tren, I will add another two weeks to it, but probably up the dose there to 100mg ED.

So other than waking up feeling bloated and being a lazy fuck today, I have actually felt pretty damn good and my bloat is now almost non-existent. I had a strong yearning for afternoon delight as well… damnit, why’d she have to leave at noon. Appetite is normal, nothing really changed. Energy levels are slightly lower though for one reason or another…

Eh, we’ll just have to see how the workout goes…

World