How’s it going everyone just was wondering what are some good high calorie meals that don’t break the bank. I currently take 2500+ a day easy and can’t gain any weight… I also take about 160 -170g of protein daily too. Creatine hc1 if that helps with water weight? Any tips to up my cals or carbs let me know please. Thanks .
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Man that’s a perfect plan it’s some foods i love too ^^ I appreciate the help and time good looking out bro!
I need 5000kcals a day to just maintain.
I basically buy cake whichever one is on sale and i try to eat like 2-3 cakes a day on top of the regular foods and drink a lot of sugary stuff.
You consider that healthy eh? I’d be interested in hearing the reasoning behind it.
@MikeVR89 glad you dug it dude! We didn’t deserve John. Way too good of a dude.
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Just put peanut butter or cheese on your current meals.
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I forget who recommended this, but I used to follow the “1 gallon of whole milk, 1 lb red meat, 12 eggs, and whatever you want per day” diet. Maybe Jim Wendler.
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Heck yeah I’ll add that in where I can for sure. I seen John’s bulk diets and see he was eating 4k+ cals on a great diet super easy and super cheap. Man in a legend I watched so many of his videos! Awesome kind person and one of the compilations of him dang near brought me to tears! Wish I could have met the guys! RIP brother!
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It might be different in the states, but over here 500g of red meat a day would be far from budget friendly.
The kind of beef you can buy for 1lb a day for cheap tends to be not quite approaching the “healthy” marker here.
Now, what you CAN do is rinse it when it’s done to significantly improve the protein to fat ratio…but at that point you lose quite a bit of the “weight” of it.
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I work in the food industry so I’m lucky to have access to some budget-friendly deals that aren’t available in stores.
Also I am in the states - not sure where you’re located, but when I cooked in Europe it was also the case.
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I’m in the UK, and beef is significantly more expensive than chicken, even for the cheapest, fattiest, most fluid injectedest cuts.
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Yeah, I was in Kenmare for a while, and beef was way more expensive to source then the USA. And that was pre-brexit, so I’m sure that’s thrown a wrentch into supply issues.
I remember lamb was pretty budget friendly though. The point was just to get the protein and fat.
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I didn’t mention lamb, because it would be insanely expensive down here on the south coast of England. As in, literally triple the price of equivalent beef cuts. I believe a lot of UK supermarkets saw Brexit coming far enough in advance to switch to mostly local sources (at last: an actual benefit), so price increases haven’t been any more noticeable than any other food stuff.
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He was a very spiritual guy, and it does make me think along the lines of God recalling His angels.
I don’t want to pretend we had some kind of relationship we didn’t, because it’s not like we were friends or hung out, but I did get to meet him a handful of times and he was the person in real life he is on his videos… maybe even nicer, if you can believe it. He would let me correspond with him through all kinds of channels and went out of his way to support me and offer advice in things that had nothing to do with lifting and didn’t help him in any way… and I was nobody to him, just some dude he bumped into that time.
Anyway, back to the topic, looks like you’ve got a solid plan from a smart dude. I’d probably steer mostly clear of red meat if I was trying to get big on a budget without a heart attack. The protein to fat over cost math just doesn’t stack up to fowl or even eggs/ dairy in most cases.
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I totally get the spirit of this though
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If i was looking to GFH on a really tight budget, i’d look to rice, chicken thighs, eggs, whole milk, olive oil (yes, it’s expensive, but it has a lot of decent calories), nuts and even protein shakes for my calories.
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Simple.
What doesnt hurt me after i eat it, is probably healthy-er.
If 3 blueberrys or a few mushrooms bloat me up 6lbs for a week and completely pause my whole digestion system, and a pack of chips dont… Which one is healthy?
If eggs give me farts, and a pizza that has no mushrooms - does not, which one is healthy?
Most of the foods you would call “healthy” would either bloat me, give me gas, diarrhea or feel like i have swallowed a box of razorblades, but a “Honey Cake” doesnt even feels like i have eaten anything much, i call bullshit on broccoli being healthy. At least for me.
The whole “healthy” if we talk about food is a far stretch as there are social groups doing it all and all of them are fine. No matter if you say that carbs are bad, or fats are bad, or you need to eat this and that to be healthy, there is a large historic group of people doing the opposite and being healthy.
I think the poison is in the dose and the lack of activity. Being a person whos maintenance is 5000kcals and sometimes even up to 9000kcals, a person who gets 10k steps in within 130minutes of waking up, i am a believer of the fact that not only you CAN “out-run” a bad diet, you actually need to have a “bad” diet to survive.
Similar as eskimoes and lots of siberian people eat whale and otter fat, just to get in some calories because its not like they have lots of food choices. And they are not the unhealthiest people. Actually the unhealthiest people are the ones with the most options.
Actually, trying to eat “healthy” by the book when bulking on 5000+ kcals, probably becomes super unhealthy for your asshole at least. I cant imagine the amounts of shits one takes when he eats 5000-6000kcal of chicken, rice and beans.
If we put ourselves through the discomfort of such large amounts of food, there is at least the “healthy” factor of lower total amount of digestable stuff inside you for months and months.
Eating 2kg of rice vs eating 1/5 of that amount of cake, is definetly putting your body under larger stress, imo.
I’ve not been to your country, but my guess is that your version of cake is probably very different from American version of cake. Your version probably includes actual eggs and flour and recognisable ingredients.
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Love it. I’d probably be slightly more carb-heavy than fat, so I’d switch the olive oil for fruit or grits or something, but that’s all preference.
USA! We win again. Growing food is soooo 1700.
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