Heterosexual Discrimination

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Plenty of homosexuals have good and happy (OH EM GEE ARE YOU SAYING GOOD AND HAPPY ARE THE SAME WORDS LOOK THEM UP CAUSE THEY HAVE DIFFERENT MEANINGS!!!111!ONE!!WON!!) lives. And more would have better and happier lives if it werent for bigots like you.

Hey kid, there was a thread on this very forum that hashed this topic to death, did you know that? Someone just PM’d me with it.

Someone posted the CDC statistics for homo’s on there.

I forgot the exact figure but something like 500,000 homo men have the HIV virus. And STD’s are the highest in this group as well. In addition to that they have the highest suicide rate and drug and alcohol usage rate. Also they have a life span somewhere in the late 50’s

Man if that’s “happy” I don’t want any part of it.
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Gee, I wonder why they have high suicide rates. Hmm.

I bet its because of people like you.

Yeah, I think I win that bet.

[apbt55]

Well if your going by that standard I could care less if there were no more onions on face of the earth.

I am not afraid of homosexuality, I hate the lack of morality. And the fact that you expect me to accept it as being OK. I do not fear it. I fear the fact that because some homosexuals are loud obnoxious and so annoying people pass laws to shut them up not realizing they are giving them more and more power.

I hate that I am supposed let our schools teach my children there is nothing wrong with it.

I know quite a number of queers and talk to them. They know how I feel and some of them have opened hoping to change my mind about them. And the more they talk the more I realize what a disease it is. Most of the gay guys I know fantasize about molesting little boys and when I say little I mean infants and toddlers.

So you can save your new age propaganda for someone that might listen. I agree most neuroscientist who have done research on the subject. Homosexuality is a disease, it is neural or genetic malfunction sometimes brought out by experiences

And I understand the need for references here some. But I really am stupid and completely uneducated.

: Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2004 Dec;1032:237-44.Click here to read
A role for 5alpha-reductase activity in the development of male homosexuality?

J Sex Res. 2004 Feb;41(1):75-81
Androgen and psychosexual development: core gender identity, sexual orientation and recalled childhood gender role behavior in women and men with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH).

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Gender and race are not choices.

Again, when did you choose to be straight? Could you choose to be gay if you wanted to? And if sexuality isnt a choice for you, why do you assume it is a choice for others?

That’s ass backward logic at its finest.

The natural tendency is for heterosexuality not homosexuality.
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So why are there gays, then? Because they randomly make the choice to get turned on by other men? Are you fucking serious? Because they obviously have urges to have sex with women (cause thats the only natural tendency)… but choose to fight those urges?

For serious?

And that’s why according to the CDC most homosexual men and women actually have had sex with someone of the opposite sex…and had it REPEATEDLY.

Uh… that would make them bisexuals, then, hoss.

I forgot the exact figure, I think it’s something like 90% of them. Why don’t you look it up?

Ok, so there are a lot of bisexuals in the world. Your point?

Now I might be able to understand women having sex with a guy. But how do you suppose that a homosexual guy got it up with a woman?

Uhhh dueerekoafvererrrr… bbbbbiiiisseeexxxuuuuaaallll?

Gee how do you suppose that could happen if they were not aroused?

Do I have to spell it out for you again?

I guess it’s more of a choice than even I originally thought it to be.

So wait. They get aroused by having sex with a woman, and thats natural.

Now, wouldnt that mean that getting the same arousal from having sex with a man was equally natural?

Or are they forcing themselves erect and having gay sex against their own will? LOL

Poor thing. Different people who make you feel all icky about yourself are exercising their rights. Boo hoo. Little neocon bitch. At least you can pat yourself on the back that a lot of other bigots feel the same way.

I’ll remind you of that when a law is passed allowing someone to make out with their Irish Setter on the street corner.

slippery slope nonsense. Keep trying.

But then that wouldn’t make you sick right?

You’d just be afraid of them…

LOL your arguments are void of any logic.

No, the law would never be passed because an Irish Setter cannot consent.

You’re just a misguided little kid.

But you’ll learn eventually…you will.

Maybe someday I’ll learn how to get through to idiots like you. Guess I just have to keep trying.

LOL. Liberal hate lines. Here you are claiming that gays shouldnt be able to kiss in public (while its ok for straight people to do so). And I’m the one “spewing liberal hate”. You’re fucking funny.

And you have confused “hate” with something else.

Why doesn’t society allow people to fornicate on the street corner?

Ok, so NOBODY can fuck on a streetcorner. Thats not bigotry. If SOME people could and SOME couldnt, that would be bigotry.

Do they hate people who fuck in public?

DUH! You stupid little shit.

[b]It’s not about “hate”.

It’s about having norms in a society and upholding those norms.[/b]

I dont really care about what you consider “normal”. For many years it wasnt normal for blacks and whites to have interracial relationships. Should they have avoided those because they weren’t “normal” or “traditional”?

And yes, those opposed to interracial marriage used the same arguments: If a white person can marry a nigger, whats next, they marry their dog?

Take some Sociology courses, it might help you understand.

I don’t think anyone on this thread expressed hate for homosexuals…I mean who cares if a couple of fags want to go down on each other. Other than making me sick, if I had to see it, who really cares?

What if that fag was your kid?

Ut oh. Now its scary.

As a human being, you deserve the very basic level of respect from me. Beyond that, I do not wish you well at all.

Now see that?

I wished you well and because you are a hateful little liberal you couldn’t do the same.

No, its because I’m black and gay.

That’s the same sort of logic that liberals use when they express their desire for open debate and then vote for “hate speech” legislation.

The same way neocons think they should be able to force homosexuals to not hold hands in public?

What you really want is for everyone to agree with you…well that’s not happening. Not on this thread and not in the real world.

hahahaha. I’m an evil liberal because I want people to agree with me.

Are you saying you dont want people to agree with you? Or do you just want to admit to being a hypocrite on that one?

There are some big changes coming in this country, regardless of who is elected President.

Check out the Supreme Court the next time you’re bored and online.

See the relatively young ages of the conservative judges? See which way the court is tipping?

There is one more really old bastard on there. I think his name is “Stevens”, he’s something like 88 or 89.

While I wish him a long and happy life (not happy as you define homosexuals to be…that’s not happy) as soon as he goes Bush will appoint yet another conservative Judge. And while I’m not a Bush fan, he’s done a masterful job with the Supreme Court.

But even without another Bush appointee, the Judges that we do have will bring some mighty a changes our way. And here’s a clue:

YOU WON’T LIKE THEM.

LOL

Well, we’ll just have to see about that.

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Homophobia is sort of a form of xenophobia. Since two men kissing is foreign to them, they fear it. You fear homosexuals, and your fear and resentment likely stem from fear that you yourself may indeed have homosexual tendencies.

Yea, at least that’s the hope of the crowd you hang out with. In reality two men kissing make me sick. Now let me tell you what that is all about.

And Im sure seeing a black man kiss a white woman makes some people sick. Why should they care?

No you stupid little shit that does not even register. MY cousin married a black woman and I love her like she was my real cousin.

By the way she’s a trial lawyer and she’s making tons of money.

And guess what?

She thinks affirmative action is bullshit. And actually harms blacks emotionally.

Anyway…

you have to stop equating what is natural, one man kissing one woman…of any color, to what is not natural, two men kissing.

You keep trying to compare it to other things, but there are no other things to compare it to.

Silly little man.

hahahahaha. Weren’t you the same idiot that compared it to beastiality earlier?

That its unnatural, just like a man humping a dog?

Its natural for people to kiss people they are attracted to. Its really not that hard to grasp. And -gasp- some men are attracted to other men! Isnt that incredible?

It’s not a comparison. It’s more of a “what’s next” view.

And your argument for not tolerating men screwing dogs is what?

And your argument against polygamy is what?

And on and on…
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My argument against beastiality is that animals have the right not to be raped

Since an animal cannot consent to having sex with a human, it would be rape (the same way having sex with someone who is too young or too drunk to consent would be rape).

Again, the issue is consent.

I dont really have an argument against polygamy. I can understand that it would make legal matters very tricky, but on a social level I see nothing wrong with it. If a woman doesnt mind her husband having sex with other women, where is the problem?

Again, issue of consent.

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

You’re talking about homosexuals doing things that heterosexuals could do in public without any problems. That is bigotry.

Unless you’re also suggesting that men and women not kiss in public, your ideas are bigoted.

Then you’re suggesting that everyone is a bigot who does not want to see a guy making out with his dog on the street corner.

Again…your logic sucks. Get your money back from LU (liberal university)…QUICKLY.

Two consenting adults have the right to do with each other as they please.

You should pay better attention as that is my feeling as well and I’ve stated it.

If two straight consenting adults can kiss on a street corner, why not two gay consenting adults?

Been over this one junior…1. Kids. 2. It makes people want to puke.

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1. It doesnt matter if you are afraid that your kids will be gay. That does not change the rights of gays.

2. It doesnt matter if you are disgusted by gays. It does not change the rights of gays.

Homosexuality and beastiality are incomparable. You lose.

Then tell me what the next step is?

I can read the bumper stickers now:

“One man, one light bulb it’s their right”

Ha ha…you liberal idiot…LOL

That sounds painful.

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

You have not given me one logical argument why those who want to do the above cannot use the same logic that you are using for homosexuals.

TWO.

CONSENTING.

ADULTS.

Do I need to continue repeating that?

Not so fast junior. You didn’t answer the question of Polygamy with that cute little line now did you?

What if Harry loves his sister Judy?

Two consenting adults still okay with you?

Dumb shit.

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Yes, because my logic is constant. If thats what they want to do, it doesnt matter how I feel about it. They have the right to do as they please.

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Where did I ever indicate that I was afraid of homo’s?

sigh

How about when you admitted that you fear your children being gay? As one of MANY examples.

You dumb shit, that does not mean that I’m afraid of homosexuals just because I don’t want my son to grow up to be a fag.

I beg you take a class in logic.
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How about the way you refer to them in a slur?

You did. But you try to justify it by saying its unnatural, or by comparing it to pedophilia, or the same useless neocon bigot nonsense you all spew.

Um…you think it’s natural for a man to stick his dick in another mans asshole?

You think its natural for a man to stick his dick in a womans asshole or a womans mouth?

Ha ha…You sick bastard…

You fear homosexuals. Just, try to understand that.

That is your wish, but it just isn’t so junior. But for the life of you you just can’t demonstrate how this disgust I have if I had to watch two men kissing is actually fear.

Because you would fight against a gay pride parade in your city, even if you didn’t have to see it.

Fear.

Know why?

Because it’s not fear…it’s disgust.

And they are two different words.

Take it up with Webster…

Fear and disgust. Elements of both.

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]apbt55 wrote:
Well if your going by that standard I could care less if there were no more onions on face of the earth.

I am not afraid of homosexuality, I hate the lack of morality. And the fact that you expect me to accept it as being OK. I do not fear it. I fear the fact that because some homosexuals are loud obnoxious and so annoying people pass laws to shut them up not realizing they are giving them more and more power.
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I hate to break it to you, sir, but there is nothing immoral about homosexuals.

What is immoral about homosexuality?

I hate that I am supposed let our schools teach my children there is nothing wrong with it.

Because there is nothing wrong with two consenting adults being intimate with each other.

I know quite a number of queers and talk to them. They know how I feel and some of them have opened hoping to change my mind about them. And the more they talk the more I realize what a disease it is. Most of the gay guys I know fantasize about molesting little boys and when I say little I mean infants and toddlers.

And there are far more gays who would never do such a thing.

So you can save your new age propaganda for someone that might listen. I agree most neuroscientist who have done research on the subject. Homosexuality is a disease, it is neural or genetic malfunction sometimes brought out by experiences

A disease? hahahaha. As in you might catch the gay?

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And I understand the need for references here some. But I really am stupid and completely uneducated.

: Ann N Y Acad Sci. 2004 Dec;1032:237-44.Click here to read
A role for 5alpha-reductase activity in the development of male homosexuality?

J Sex Res. 2004 Feb;41(1):75-81
Androgen and psychosexual development: core gender identity, sexual orientation and recalled childhood gender role behavior in women and men with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (CAH).[/quote]

Why dont you go ahead and sum that up for me? Does it say that some people are naturally gay or does it say they really arent but are just pretending to be immoral?

And, again, what is immoral about being gay?

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Once again, you admit to fear of your own homosexual tendencies.

You see comments like that are sooooo stupid that it’s almost unbelievable that such dumb shit would ever be allowed out of someones mouth.

And those who hated Nazis were actually latent Nazis themselves…

And those who despise racism are actually closet racists…

Hey according to your logic, deep down you’re a conservative.

Ha ha…Wow you are a piece of work…

Now the stupid bastard tries to explain it below. Please everyone read this, it’s priceless:

You’re worried that your kids seeing gay people “being gay” will influence them towards being gay themselves. Obviously, this means you believe that a persons sexuality CAN BE influenced in such a way as to get a straight person to “be gay”.

Fact: No one knows why people are gay. Not you, not me, not your liberal professors, no one.

Therefore, how do you know that a child at an early age, say before he/she turns 11 or 12 cannot be influenced? I have never stated that an adult would be influenced, so your argument, like most of your arguments…SUCK!

Back to the liberal drawing board huh?

LOL

hahahaha

So you, your safe. But your kids… THEY are in danger of being influenced into homosexuality.

Prove it’s never happened, you can’t.

In fact, there are many studies which indicate that males who were molested by men at an early age did in fact grow up to become homosexuals.

Now granted we are not talking about molestation, but why have that homo influence around a young child?

Answer: You shouldn’t. And you really can’t prove otherwise.

You never did mention when and how you “decided” to be straight. I’m sure its a great story.

One does not decide to be straight, but they do “decide” to be homosexual…Think about it junior.

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How is that?

If one has urges to have sex with the opposite sex, they are heterosexual. If they have urges to have sex with the same sex, they are homosexual. If they have urges to have sex with both, they are bisexual. If they have urges to have sex with neither, they are asexual.

In no case do they “choose” what urges they will have.

Yes, they choose what actions they will take.

But, by that same logic, heterosexuals choose to be straight just as much as homosexuals choose to be gay.

However, you claim this is not true.

You fail at life. And logic. But mostly life.

[CappedAndPlanIt]

[quote]Mick28 wrote:
EmilyQ wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
What if one lands in my hair? And gets stuck, because my hair is curly??

Then people would look at the bean and not your fat ass…Hey just kidding…just kidding.

Unacceptable. I’d have to start squealing, which would make me look like a total lame ass.

Not really I don’t mind women squealing…

But anyway. Yeah. Heterosexual discrimination. I’m against it!

Yea, me too, the fag should get about one year in jail for not controlling his lust.

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He should go to jail for infringing on the rights of another person. It has nothing to do with him being gay.

If you had your way he’d be hanged from the nearest branch, though.